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Old 11-18-2024, 10:19 PM   #2961
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not all tires are created equal
a high end all weather or AT will match or outperform a low or mid winter

just don't drive with all seasons, summers, or anything bald in the winter please

Also pro tip, you can get next to new winters used for a fraction of the price...usually 1/3 or less. People sell cars over the spring/summer and have useless winters laying around and are happy to negotiate and get them the F outta the garage.
Also a lot of people right now that have had vehicles written off due to the hail, and now have tires on rims to sell off. I’ll be selling a barely used set of all seasons on rims in the spring.
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Old 11-18-2024, 11:05 PM   #2962
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I run M&S tires year round on my 2500HD Z71, If the roads look a little slick I use 4H and can boot around without any issues at all, better control than when I had a FWD car with Blizzaks. What do normal truck people run?

Due to my current life situation, I might put 5-8K km/year on my personal truck. If I ran two sets of tires they would expire before they wear out.
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Old 11-19-2024, 07:01 AM   #2963
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I run M&S tires year round on my 2500HD Z71, If the roads look a little slick I use 4H and can boot around without any issues at all, better control than when I had a FWD car with Blizzaks. What do normal truck people run?

Due to my current life situation, I might put 5-8K km/year on my personal truck. If I ran two sets of tires they would expire before they wear out.
I also use 4H at every opportunity, it’s either that or throw 1000 pounds of weight in the back to keep the back end behind you.
Always all-weather, I have never owned winter tires.
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Old 11-19-2024, 07:10 AM   #2964
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How does 4H help you stop better though?
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Old 11-19-2024, 07:17 AM   #2965
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How does 4H help you stop better though?
The car in front will stop you. Are you sure you know how to drive?
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Old 11-19-2024, 07:25 AM   #2966
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Ah, I did that once! Pickup truck with summer tires slid down a hill while I was stopped at a light and hit my bumper. So... success?
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As long as the tire has the mountain symbol, whether winter or all-weather, you’re at least fine.

M+S doesn’t cut it.
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Old 11-19-2024, 07:58 AM   #2968
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Yeah I run winter rated all terrains on my trucks, and they're pretty good. Not as good as dedicated winters but still good.

Just M+S mudders, those always sucked. Just freezing into hockey pucks, can"t stop worth a ####
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Old 11-19-2024, 08:52 AM   #2969
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Yes, M+S with the mountain symbol. I think the mountain symbol allows you to drive on certain BC highways, at least for commercial vehicles.

The vast majority of the time, the highways around Calgary and are clear and dry, when I was driving daily, only a handful of days a year was it even a thing.
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As long as it's winter rated(mountain symbol)and not just m+s I'd say you're fine
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Yes, M+S with the mountain symbol. I think the mountain symbol allows you to drive on certain BC highways, at least for commercial vehicles.

The vast majority of the time, the highways around Calgary and are clear and dry, when I was driving daily, only a handful of days a year was it even a thing.
You only need M+S tires in BC, they do not need to be mountain snowflake rated.

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All of these tires are legal on highways with winter tire requirements between October 1 and March 31 or April 30, as long as they have a minimum 3.5 mm tread depth.
https://www.tranbc.ca/2014/10/24/how...driving-in-bc/
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Yes, M+S with the mountain symbol. I think the mountain symbol allows you to drive on certain BC highways, at least for commercial vehicles.

The vast majority of the time, the highways around Calgary and are clear and dry, when I was driving daily, only a handful of days a year was it even a thing.
The BC law allows for either M+S or Severe/snowflake rating for passenger cars, and most all seasons have M+S rating.

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/t...t-winter-tires
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CCs struggled with the bumpy ice/snow on the side roads. ABS kicked in when I tried to stop in front of my house.

Pilot Alpins: destroyed everything in their way. It was like driving in summer.
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Old 11-19-2024, 10:21 AM   #2974
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First time with winter tires on my truck this year. They are great! Well, the 200km I put on them have been great.

I ran all seasons before. I found the all seasons to be fine in the winter, until the tread was worn closer to the wear bar, then they weren’t great.
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Honestly, I made the switch to winter tires about 20 years ago on my first car, and I've not looked back ever since. It's a night and day difference in terms of grip, stopping control, and just regular mundane things like not getting stuck in my cul-de-sac because of a small incline and slushy weather. I think I counted 5 working vans and service vehicles stuck outside my house yesterday because they just couldn't get grip.

Not gonna lie, I do feel a certain smugness when my car just powers out of an incline parking lot while some struggler with all seasons spins out and can't make it up.
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Honestly, I made the switch to winter tires about 20 years ago on my first car, and I've not looked back ever since. It's a night and day difference in terms of grip, stopping control, and just regular mundane things like not getting stuck in my cul-de-sac because of a small incline and slushy weather. I think I counted 5 working vans and service vehicles stuck outside my house yesterday because they just couldn't get grip.

Not gonna lie, I do feel a certain smugness when my car just powers out of an incline parking lot while some struggler with all seasons spins out and can't make it up.
I like to do circles around them while laughing maniacally.
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Cruising around buses and a number of other vehicles that struggled up steep hills was pretty satisfying yesterday.
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It's nice when you just know you're not going to get stuck no matter what happens. It definitely makes a difference between M+S and all weather versus winters. Hell, even all winters are not created equal - I used to run Xice4s which were great for very cold weather on plowed roads, which is 90% of our winter, but compared to blizzaks in deep snow or Hakkas in... anything, there's a whole other level of confidence there.
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Honestly, I made the switch to winter tires about 20 years ago on my first car, and I've not looked back ever since. It's a night and day difference in terms of grip, stopping control, and just regular mundane things like not getting stuck in my cul-de-sac because of a small incline and slushy weather. I think I counted 5 working vans and service vehicles stuck outside my house yesterday because they just couldn't get grip.

Not gonna lie, I do feel a certain smugness when my car just powers out of an incline parking lot while some struggler with all seasons spins out and can't make it up.
My dad mandated winter tires on my first car at 16, a 1986 Dodge Aries. And after moving here for school I drove that thing through the Rogers Pass several times going back home to BC for the holidays. Always saw so many big expensive AWD SUV's in the ditch on every drive, while me in my ####box with studded Blizzaks never had an issue. I will be mandating the same thing for my kids when they get their first cars
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I had Michelin Arctic Alpins, back when that was the only winter tire available. NGL they still sorta sucked on ice and they were extremely dangerous in rain. Great in snow though.
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