05-01-2024, 11:20 AM
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#2941
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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Originally Posted by Locke
Hey! Thats my office you're talking about!
Look, I'm no fan of the 'Ogden Block' despite being fully aware of it's historical significance. I just dont know what they can do with it.
Maybe hollow it out somehow and make it the entrance to the train station?
At the moment its a crack den.
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Sounds like it's already 95% ready for the LRT.
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05-01-2024, 11:21 AM
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#2942
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Hey! Thats my office you're talking about!
Look, I'm no fan of the 'Ogden Block' despite being fully aware of it's historical significance. I just dont know what they can do with it.
Maybe hollow it out somehow and make it the entrance to the train station?
At the moment its a crack den.
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Don't you need the space for the helicopter landing pad?
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05-01-2024, 11:25 AM
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#2943
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Don't you need the space for the helicopter landing pad?
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Have you SEEN the zoning requirements for that? I'd sooner be approved to park an Aircraft carrier across from the rendering plant and then land the helicopter on that than get a stand-alone helicopter pad approved!
I blame Gondek!
I even said I'd land it on the Ogden Block but all I got was "oooh...that roof isnt rated for the weight of a helicopter and the whole building would collapse...and blah, blah, blah...."
I'd be doing them a favour! I could bill them for the take-down!
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05-01-2024, 05:06 PM
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#2944
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Hey! Thats my office you're talking about!
Look, I'm no fan of the 'Ogden Block' despite being fully aware of it's historical significance. I just dont know what they can do with it.
Maybe hollow it out somehow and make it the entrance to the train station?
At the moment its a crack den.
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haha, fair enough and no offence to the businesses in that strip mall.
I would agree, its currently not the nicest looking building; but, i think we should at least make an attempt to preserve some of the older buildings in the city as best we can.
I won't fault the organization for trying something with it.
But i agree, something needs to be done about its current state
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05-01-2024, 05:29 PM
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#2945
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cappy
haha, fair enough and no offence to the businesses in that strip mall.
I would agree, its currently not the nicest looking building; but, i think we should at least make an attempt to preserve some of the older buildings in the city as best we can.
I won't fault the organization for trying something with it.
But i agree, something needs to be done about its current state
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Honestly, the Ogden Block has brought me hours of entertainment over the years.
I've seen a group of people in Wookie costumes smoking out front, I've seen people trying to 'break in' like one guy stood there for hours with a screwdriver removing a plywood panel.
I've seen the Police use it for incursion training! I'll tell you, I've only ever heard a 'Flash-Bang' once in my life and it rattled my office windows from across the street.
Then the Cops came to my office to use my washroom and play my Arcade game. Which I'm fine with.
Then there was a bake-sale to save the Block, there have been a few demonstrations...its been quite fun thus far.
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05-02-2024, 06:26 AM
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#2946
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Calgary
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OT Brewing Co has shut down and is selling all their production equipment, citing rental increases. Too bad, good people, good beer. Tough space to make a go of it!
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05-02-2024, 01:07 PM
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#2948
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Hey! Thats my office you're talking about!
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Maybe we were waaaay off on that whole helicopter thing.
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05-02-2024, 01:16 PM
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#2949
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evil of fart
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Originally Posted by Bigtime
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So are we reconciled now, or did that help exactly zero like every other thing we do?
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05-02-2024, 01:18 PM
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#2950
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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Is the Fort Calgary name up for grabs, then? I have some ideas for my yard...
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05-02-2024, 01:21 PM
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#2951
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary
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Fort Fuzzgary.
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05-02-2024, 01:28 PM
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#2952
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzz
Is the Fort Calgary name up for grabs, then? I have some ideas for my yard...
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Castle turrets made out of clay?
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05-02-2024, 01:30 PM
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#2953
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzz
Is the Fort Calgary name up for grabs, then? I have some ideas for my yard...
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Go Fawlty Towers with it.
Fort Arg Clay
Fort Clay Rag
Gr Farty Cola
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05-02-2024, 01:31 PM
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#2954
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evil of fart
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wormius
Go Fawlty Towers with it.
Fort Arg Clay
Fort Clay Rag
Gr Farty Cola
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My lifelong streak of not seeing a modicum of humour in anything related to Fawlty Towers remains unbroken.
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05-02-2024, 01:35 PM
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#2955
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sliver
My lifelong streak of not seeing a modicum of humour in anything related to Fawlty Towers remains unbroken.
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Nobody will judge you for not getting the humour.
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05-02-2024, 02:18 PM
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#2956
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzz
Is the Fort Calgary name up for grabs, then? I have some ideas for my yard...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Castle turrets made out of clay?
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Might be onto something here. Rammed earth was a legit building technique (several hundred years ago).
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05-02-2024, 02:25 PM
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#2957
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigtime
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This is very sad. I normally sort of shrug at superficial grandstanding gestures like this, but this one really bothers me.
Fort Calgary was the basis of the first PERMANENT settlement in this area by any culture.
According to all aboriginal oral history I'm aware of, "the confluence" was an occasional stopover, hunting ground and possible meeting point, but nothing permanent was ever built or kept here (largely because the bands who are indigenous to this part of Alberta were largely nomadic). It is historical fact, not some sort of white jingoism that this was the catalyst for the formal settlement (unless I'm somehow mistaken and there was something permanent built before 1875, other than the Rouleau mission in 1872, a few ranches, and some dubious conjecture that Fort La Jonquiere was built at the confluence of the Bow and Elbow in the 1750s somehow).
It doesn't mean nothing pre-1875 matters (it very much does), but learning all history means remembering things like Fort Calgary too. It happened, and it should be remembered.
This type of "wokewashing" of history sadly contributes to the rise of dangerous populism and locally, some of the more extreme wings of the UCP. I imagine Marlaina is going to have a field day over this.
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05-02-2024, 02:29 PM
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#2958
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
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I'm sure people will be flocking over there now.
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05-02-2024, 02:40 PM
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#2959
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: In my office, at the Ministry of Awesome!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thunderball
This is very sad. I normally sort of shrug at superficial grandstanding gestures like this, but this one really bothers me.
Fort Calgary was the basis of the first PERMANENT settlement in this area by any culture.
According to all aboriginal oral history I'm aware of, "the confluence" was an occasional stopover, hunting ground and possible meeting point, but nothing permanent was ever built or kept here (largely because the bands who are indigenous to this part of Alberta were largely nomadic). It is historical fact, not some sort of white jingoism that this was the catalyst for the formal settlement (unless I'm somehow mistaken and there was something permanent built before 1875, other than the Rouleau mission in 1872, a few ranches, and some dubious conjecture that Fort La Jonquiere was built at the confluence of the Bow and Elbow in the 1750s somehow).
It doesn't mean nothing pre-1875 matters (it very much does), but learning all history means remembering things like Fort Calgary too. It happened, and it should be remembered.
This type of "wokewashing" of history sadly contributes to the rise of dangerous populism and locally, some of the more extreme wings of the UCP. I imagine Marlaina is going to have a field day over this.
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Here's the thing.
The name Fort Calgary, kind of implies that the only history that matters, or that the place is built upon is that fort.
The name The Confluence, doesn't exclude Fort Calgary, nor does it exclude anything that existed there, before it.
The actual fort part will still be a part of the site, it's just not what it'll be named after.
I really dislike the position that rebranding something, to specifically include everything, rather than highlighting a specific part is somehow not remembering or erasing that specific part.
Also, if you're so concerned about the rise of dangerous populism, maybe using "Wokewashing" completely seriously, isn't the best place to start.
Seriously, rebranding to INCLUDE indigenous history does not equal erasing white history.
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05-02-2024, 02:42 PM
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#2960
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary Satellite Community
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigtime
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I had to double take and check my calendar to ensure it wasnt April fools again when I saw this.
Unbelievable, unnecessary and stupid.
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