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Old 03-08-2024, 11:10 AM   #29381
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Doesn’t OK need to be signed today or we lose control of him?
No. He'll become a UFA on July 1. Until then, he can only talk to the Flames.
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Old 03-08-2024, 11:12 AM   #29382
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Old 03-08-2024, 11:14 AM   #29383
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Hard to say that for sure.

Flames were the first dominoes at more than one position, and giving the trades more time could've presented more options and potentially better ones.

The values today aren't great probably just because these are the leftover scraps that are being moved.

It is what it is now. Overall I'm fine with the work the Flames did. We'll have a much better picture when the draft picks are made.
It works both ways. If there are 3-4 teams interested, and the deadline is fast approaching, they may shift to the consolation prizes before the main prize is even dealt. Especially if they want third team retention.
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Old 03-08-2024, 11:14 AM   #29384
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This. Wasn't. A. Thing.
STOP IT!
Would no one have claimed him on waivers out of respect?
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Old 03-08-2024, 11:16 AM   #29385
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Old 03-08-2024, 11:17 AM   #29386
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Okay? It was definitely made to be a thing during that time so maybe you'd care to explain what I'm missing?
The Memorandum of Agreement in place at the time of the signing of the offer sheet stated a player needed to be on a team's restricted list (meaning any team's) in order to not require waivers, and O'Reilly was. It was the Avalanche's list. This is what was in place at the time of the offer sheet being signed, thus he did not require waivers.

Later, in the actual CBA, it was changed to state the player must be on the team's restricted list (meaning the signing team's) in order to not require waivers. In this instance, which is not what was in place at the time of the offer sheet, O'Reilly would have required waivers prior to playing. This was the intent, which is why it was changed, but was not what was in place at the time.
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Hoping for a birthday trade here! Big or small, cmon Conroy!
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Sportsnet 960 speculating Avs seem to be preparing for big splash trade with these minor moves.

Looks like a little over 2 mill in cap space available.

Markstrom 50% retained might just be doable if they a move another salary the other way.

2024 1st - Ritchie - and another high pick or B prospect - cap dump

Can't see them winning Cup with Georgiev as their starter.
Oooh, Ritchie and Taylor Makar and Colorado 2nd round pick in 2025 for Jacob Markstrom and Andrew Mangiapane. Get Makar's brother here to set the groundwork for a Cale signing in the coming years.
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Old 03-08-2024, 11:19 AM   #29389
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Old 03-08-2024, 11:20 AM   #29390
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The Memorandum of Agreement in place at the time of the signing of the offer sheet stated a player needed to be on a team's restricted list (meaning any team's) in order to not require waivers, and O'Reilly was. It was the Avalanche's list. This is what was in place at the time of the offer sheet being signed, thus he did not require waivers.

Later, in the actual CBA, it was changed to state the player must be on the team's restricted list (meaning the signing team's) in order to not require waivers. In this instance, which is not what was in place at the time of the offer sheet, O'Reilly would have required waivers prior to playing. This was the intent, which is why it was changed, but was not what was in place at the time.
Did not know this - thanks for the explanation!
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Nichushkin will return to play for the Avs tonight.
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The Memorandum of Agreement in place at the time of the signing of the offer sheet stated a player needed to be on a team's restricted list (meaning any team's) in order to not require waivers, and O'Reilly was. It was the Avalanche's list. This is what was in place at the time of the offer sheet being signed, thus he did not require waivers.

Later, in the actual CBA, it was changed to state the player must be on the team's restricted list (meaning the signing team's) in order to not require waivers. In this instance, which is not what was in place at the time of the offer sheet, O'Reilly would have required waivers prior to playing. This was the intent, which is why it was changed, but was not what was in place at the time.
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Old 03-08-2024, 11:27 AM   #29393
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Nichushkin will return to play for the Avs tonight.
No room for Markstrom trade then. Not sure how they fit Nichushkin in cap.
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Old 03-08-2024, 11:30 AM   #29394
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No room for Markstrom trade then. Not sure how they fit Nichushkin in cap.
Capfriendly shows them as compliant right now, including Nichuskin, because they're utilizing LTIR.

CURRENT CAP SPACE : $2,129,257
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Old 03-08-2024, 11:32 AM   #29395
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Old 03-08-2024, 11:33 AM   #29396
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Capfriendly shows them as compliant right now, including Nichuskin, because they're utilizing LTIR.

CURRENT CAP SPACE : $2,129,257
Could easily make it work for Markstrom
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Old 03-08-2024, 11:35 AM   #29397
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And yet there is no discussion about at this ufa that can walk for nothing when we’re totally freaked out about every other ufa we had. Just because of some goodwill?
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Allen to the Devils. Flames lose a spot to move Marky.
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Old 03-08-2024, 11:36 AM   #29399
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Friedman hearing that Jake Allen is possibly going to NJ.
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Allen to the Devils. Flames lose a spot to move Marky.
I am really keen to see what the price is. My guess is a 3rd.
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