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Old 03-16-2013, 02:35 PM   #2921
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Seems like some don't watch the scenes for the next week so a spoiler tag...

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Old 03-16-2013, 04:20 PM   #2922
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Seems like some don't watch the scenes for the next week so a spoiler tag...

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Old 03-16-2013, 05:18 PM   #2923
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Seems like some don't watch the scenes for the next week so a spoiler tag...

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Okay, thanks for the clarification. I usually do check out the sneak previews, but missed it this week.
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Old 03-16-2013, 08:35 PM   #2924
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Old 03-16-2013, 08:36 PM   #2925
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Just speculating here. I have this gut feeling that Carl will end up killing the Governor at some point to save his dad. That will be his big 'coming of age' moment.

If not kill the Governor, he'll wound him enough for his people to leave the prison alone for a while until next season.

Just my prediction.
I think his coming of age will be when he bangs the blonde sister or Michonne.
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Old 03-17-2013, 07:52 PM   #2926
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The best part of this episode is imagining Bertuzzied's epic "Andrea" melt down going on right now.... hehehe
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Old 03-17-2013, 08:00 PM   #2927
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That was fantastic.
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That was really good for an Andrea-centric episode. My only real complaint was why didn't she take the truck after leaving the warehouse? Or at least disable it or slash the tires?
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Old 03-18-2013, 12:46 AM   #2929
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It felt like a really bad horror movie. hehe. Like the governor taking on 50 zombies with his shovel and single gun.... haha I'm surprised Andrea didn't get caught in a bear trap right before she hit the prison. Also wtf was up with her 'spying' on the governor when he was in his torture room. That was pretty ridiculous. Well at least i stayed awake.

I'm liking Tyrese and his daughter though.

I hope Todd McFarlane casts Andrea in his next spawn movie so that it kills that character once and for all.
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That episode was great, even the suck of Andrea couldn't hold it back. Well written and well acted (minus Laurie Holden). I wish she would have bite it in the woods, then in the factory.

It's nice seeing David Morrisey grow as the Governor. He's much better since earlier and so is the character. Tyresse good too, his interaction was more then moopy scowls that this show usually does. Tyresse putting his hand on buddy just telling him to step back was good.

Burning pit of fried zombies? Sweet.
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I'm going to have to disagree with the consensus so far. Hated the episode.

They've done plot building to the "war" for 2 episodes now, and this one hardly served any purpose. The last episode adequately showed that Andrea and Milton are uncomfortable with the governor's plans moving forward, so 42 minutes of them this week was unnecessary. The subplot that was shown in this episode could have easily been condensed into a standard 50/50 split episode between Woodbury and the prison.

I think a significant portion of my dissatisfaction with this episode is how much I'm just tired of Andrea and the Governor. I spent their entire scene in the factory wishing they would both get zombie-fataed.
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Andrea really is the worst character ever. the Governor is fending off a wave of zombies, you escape out of the building, and just ignore the armored truck that would get you to the prison in a hurry. and the Governor somehow escaping a zombie horde with no guns and catching Andrea just in the nick of time was groan inducing
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I've agreed that the last few episodes have been good, but I gotta go against the grain here on this one and say I was pretty disappointed with the episode.

The warehouse scene didn't really seem to have the suspense they were going for and even felt like it dragged. Governor didn't seem creepy to me, only that he was pulling of a lame attempt at a horror monster or killer. Dragging his shovel all around, whistling a dumb tune.

Furthermore, I have no idea how Andrea pulled off her escape. Maybe I'll have to watch it again but I'm not sure how she got the zombies past her and onto the Governor. Why wouldn't they attack her too, why would they just pass her?

And the chase left something to be desired too, all of a sudden the truck pulls into the field after apparently passing her. How'd he find her? And then after losing her in the woods he finds her in the town or wherever the warehouse was? Just happened to pick the right area and the right building. Even if he had reason to deduce that she was traveling in that area and would likely look for a safe place to hide from him, how would he find her so fast, so easily? And then finds her again by the prison? I mean, he would have every belief that she would go there, but still. He just seemed to be popping up at the right place at the right time the whole episode with no real reason or logic to how he was tracking her.
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After this episode, I was left wondering something.

So you've got the Governor laying on top of Andrea with his hand over her mouth and Rick already thought he saw something in that direction. How did the Governor get her out of the woods without her screaming OR causing a rustling in the woods to alert Rick, then get her through the woods back to the truck so seemingly effortlessly?

Clearly Milton was the one who lit all the zombies on fire. I'm pretty sure no one else did. I get the feeling that it'll be Milton that will be going to the prison to warn Rick and everyone about what is going to happen to Andrea. They'll reluctantly let his useless ass into the group after half an hour of suspicious looks and discussion of whether or not he's a spy.

I also think Tyrese and his wife will defect from Woodbury and join Rick's side despite the weird first impression of him.

Oh, and I agree with everyone. She's an awful actor and her one facial expression has run its course.
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Furthermore, I have no idea how Andrea pulled off her escape. Maybe I'll have to watch it again but I'm not sure how she got the zombies past her and onto the Governor. Why wouldn't they attack her too, why would they just pass her?
I think she hid behind the door and sicked the walkers on the Govenator and then slid behind the pack and went up the stairs.

But aside from that yeah I have to echo the questions of why she didn't slash the tires, and how he was able to drag her from the woods without Rick spotting her somehow. Even the two of them spying on him in the other warehouse live Bertuzzi said was hard to believe.
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When Andrea was pinned to the tree and the biters just clumsily stumbled around was absolute trash. It was like she ran into the Larry, Curly and Moe of zombies. Had to be the worst scene yet...

Until The Governor miraculously escaped unscathed from his close encounter. Backed into a corner, no bullets, and a dozen zombies within reaching distance. Luckily he had a flimsy leather jacket on.
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No bullets? Thought he was shooting up a storm?
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Old 03-18-2013, 06:03 AM   #2939
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Clearly Milton was the one who lit all the zombies on fire. I'm pretty sure no one else did.
That was my first thought too. It seems to make sense given his unease with what the Governor has become and Andrea's "you can't look the other way any more" speech.

But on the other hand, it's a bit too predictable and formulaic. Plus, there's the whole problem of Milton trying to find a good excuse to take go for a cruise outside the walls in the middle of the night. You don't think someone questions why Milton would do something like that so out of character? No one on the wall reports back to Martinez or the Governor that Milton is doing something odd? So maybe the writers are just throwing us off the scent of someone else (like Martinez) who would have reason to be out at night with a vehicle and know how to access the gasoline.

But still, back to the first hand, the writers have not shown any reluctance to take these characters and the story down predictable and groan-inspiring paths before. It probably is Milton who BBQed the walkers.
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No bullets? Thought he was shooting up a storm?
Yeah, he was. Especially as they were just coming out he shot maybe 10 times but it cuts back to him as he tries to shoot only to find his gun is out of ammo so he pistol whips the zombies instead. Ends with him and a solid dozen of zombies within reaching distance and him backing into what appeared to be a corner.

Give em credit for not having infinite ammo pistols but if The Governor can escape that there's absolutely no way any zombie poses a threat to anyone in the show anymore.

It's too bad as they have a good story to tell, they just can't get the minor details right in a lot of episodes like this. I mean, sure, it's a zombie show I should be suspending some disbelief but there's just a lot of "mistakes" that take away from the overall show. At least in my opinion.

It was the same a couple episodes ago where they met Morgan. In what was an otherwise great episode they had to have Michonne go back into the cafe to get Carl's photo. It's literally being stepped on by dozens of zombies but she's capable of sneaking in, snatching it, and grabbing her crazy cat statue without the zombies noticing. And yet 99% of the world has been decimated by these zombies? Even if they deteriorated, they still pose a threat anytime the story calls for it.
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