Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by Macman

No offence and you sound like you mean well but a lot of your post here is really reaching and you’re crying over nothing, take a break and carry on with your volunteering and fundraising.
Could you elaborate on how gay people for example are having a tough time, I see more openly gay and trans people than ever before. I think some of you on here complain too much. And if it wasn’t Smith that won the leadership and someone else you would still be crying.

Go to Drag story-time at the library and report back.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Macman

And if it wasn’t Smith that won the leadership and someone else you would still be crying.

Thankfully people like that are balanced out by people who have zero standards and are on all fours ready to bootlick for anyone so long as they run under a conservative banner. Stop me if that hits too close to home for you.

When people who otherwise identify their beliefs as conservative and have historically voted conservative are coming out saying they can’t vote for Smith and hate her nomination… I dunno, maybe it’s time to question if people are complaining too much or if it’s just time to use your thinking cap a little bit more.

No offence… of course.

[PsYcNeT]

Something something, small government something

https://twitter.com/user/status/1583558455373475841

BUT LIGHTBULBS!

[Izzle]

Tbf, that could be a function of a weak bench strength. Expected since the NDP didn't have any power prior

[PsYcNeT]

Smith's is almost certainly related to the requirement that she has to a) jerk off the necessary sycophants to ensure party unity, and b) also ensure that her toadies are taken care of.

[b1crunch]

Originally Posted by Macman

No offence and you sound like you mean well but a lot of your post here is really reaching and you’re crying over nothing, take a break and carry on with your volunteering and fundraising.
Could you elaborate on how gay people for example are having a tough time, I see more openly gay and trans people than ever before. I think some of you on here complain too much. And if it wasn’t Smith that won the leadership and someone else you would still be crying.

2 days ago at an elementary school.

Severed pig's head on rainbow crosswalk at Alberta school prompts RCMP investigation

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...tion-1.6622738

No offence and you sound like you mean well but... anyone who says "Could you elaborate on how gay people for example are having a tough time" has ZERO understanding about the hardships that some people in our society face.

"Racism must not exist anymore because I see lots of non-white people around now". Are you for real?

[RedHot25]

Hoo boy.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1583932164089204736

Yup. It's all a master plot for....?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1583930905084973057

[Fuzz]

^
This is the exact same BS that was being peddled on all the Freedom Convoy pages. I still can't believe the UCP were dumb enough to put this moron in charge.

[Macman]

Originally Posted by b1crunch

2 days ago at an elementary school.

Severed pig's head on rainbow crosswalk at Alberta school prompts RCMP investigation

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...tion-1.6622738

No offence and you sound like you mean well but... anyone who says "Could you elaborate on how gay people for example are having a tough time" has ZERO understanding about the hardships that some people in our society face.

"Racism must not exist anymore because I see lots of non-white people around now". Are you for real?

But what’s that have to do with Smith and the UCP or any other party? A couple churches around me have been vandalized in the past few months, which party should we blame that on? The point is you’re never going to fully eliminate that small group of people. Kind of like people who steal catalytic converters.

It also doesn’t help when people on here are so condescending calling others dumb bootlicks etc. but when one of your own calls the deputy premier who’s black a bootlick, you’re strangely quiet other than crickets.

I’m supportive of Smith because she was elected with the current process where anybody could have gone and bought a membership which is the norm for any party. We’ll also have a general election in a few months. I’m also not anti democratic.

[RedHot25]

And its easy to refute, with evidence or argument.

E.g. the child care one, Quebec already had, but in addition it's such low hanging fruit for the opposition, like this:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1583938061838475264

[b1crunch]

Originally Posted by Macman

But what’s that have to do with Smith and the UCP or any other party? A couple churches around me have been vandalized in the past few months, which party should we blame that on. The point is you’re never going to fully eliminate that small group of people. Kind of like people who steal catalytic converters.

It also doesn’t help when people on here are so condescending calling others dumb bootlicks etc. but when one of your own calls the deputy premier who’s black a bootlick, you’re strangely quiet other than crickets.

I’m supportive of Smith because she was elected with the current process where anybody could have gone and bought a membership which is the norm for any party. We’ll also have a general election in a few months. I’m also not anti democratic.

Your comment about gay people didn't specifically relate to the UCP either. You questioned how gay people have it tough and suggested they don't because you have seen more openly gay and trans people than ever before. Nothing you said there has to do with the UCP, and comes across as a general comment about gay people in our society.

I never linked the hardships of gay people to the UCP either, so I'm not sure what the hell you're going on about. I simply called you out on a stupid comment you made. My post was not political in the least. It was related to your notion that LGTQ people "don't have it tough".

[RedHot25]

This is going to go well...

https://twitter.com/user/status/1583940385071845376

[GGG]

Originally Posted by RedHot25

And its easy to refute, with evidence or argument.

E.g. the child care one, Quebec already had, but in addition it's such low hanging fruit for the opposition, like this:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1583938061838475264

Except that tweet is not factual. Smith isn’t saying she wants to cut funding daycare (she probably does though). She is saying that it is unconstitutional for the government to put conditions on the funding.

Now would she likely severely damage this program and more importantly health and education transfers which also have conditions? Probably, but that isn’t what her tweet says.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Macman

But what’s that have to do with Smith and the UCP or any other party? A couple churches around me have been vandalized in the past few months, which party should we blame that on? The point is you’re never going to fully eliminate that small group of people. Kind of like people who steal catalytic converters.

It also doesn’t help when people on here are so condescending calling others dumb bootlicks etc. but when one of your own calls the deputy premier who’s black a bootlick, you’re strangely quiet other than crickets.

I’m supportive of Smith because she was elected with the current process where anybody could have gone and bought a membership which is the norm for any party. We’ll also have a general election in a few months. I’m also not anti democratic.

So you’d support ANY democraticly elected leader just because they got elected?

[b1crunch]

Originally Posted by Macman

But what’s that have to do with Smith and the UCP or any other party? A couple churches around me have been vandalized in the past few months, which party should we blame that on? The point is you’re never going to fully eliminate that small group of people. Kind of like people who steal catalytic converters.

It also doesn’t help when people on here are so condescending calling others dumb bootlicks etc. but when one of your own calls the deputy premier who’s black a bootlick, you’re strangely quiet other than crickets.

I’m supportive of Smith because she was elected with the current process where anybody could have gone and bought a membership which is the norm for any party. We’ll also have a general election in a few months. I’m also not anti democratic.

As well, the fact that you openly support Smith (which is fine btw) while also making comments about how LGBTQ people "don't have it tough" are striking. You're giving off a vibe of anti-LGBTQ while expressing support for Smith. Don't be surprised when people who care about LGBTQ issues don't support Smith, since her own supporters are making comments like the ones you just made.

You probably think you're making a case for Smith on here but you're hurting her image and furthering stereotypes that people have of her and the UCP. Bravo.

[Macman]

And I was replying to the post where Canadianman was going on about LGBTQ and that somehow it was Smiths/UCP’s fault. And unlike that poster, not to pick on them, I don’t feel like I don’t have a choice as far as who to vote for goes.

[RedHot25]

Originally Posted by GGG

Except that tweet is not factual. Smith isn’t saying she wants to cut funding daycare (she probably does though). She is saying that it is unconstitutional for the government to put conditions on the funding.

Now would she likely severely damage this program and more importantly health and education transfers which also have conditions? Probably, but that isn’t what her tweet says.

The point is, it's an easy counter narrative - "she wants to make life harder and more expensive for you".

That's my point, which is what I said in my tweet to begin with evidence or argument. Argument might not be the best word choice, fair enough.

[b1crunch]

Originally Posted by Macman

And I was replying to the post where Canadianman was going on about LGBTQ and that somehow it was Smiths/UCP’s fault. And unlike that poster, not to pick on them, I don’t feel like I don’t have a choice as far as who to vote for goes.

Then how about next time you ask: "what do LGBTQ hardships have to do with the UCP?" instead of "how do the LGBTQ have it tough?"

Those are two different questions. One comes across as bigoted and the other doesn't. But you've now linked bigoted beliefs with Smith, so good job. To be clear, I'm not saying she's bigoted but you have with your stupid choice of wording. Again, your damaging her image on here, so if that's what you were going for, great job!

Also your comment above (the bolded part) doesn't make sense (double negative) and I have no idea what you're talking about.

[RedHot25]

Ok, please Macman, 14Roman14, etc, please help me understand this...

https://twitter.com/user/status/1583928620950880256

Its a complete contradiction, in one statement, as...

https://twitter.com/user/status/1583938991505956864

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by Jason Copping

Never say never.

Nothing to see here. Same page!