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Old 03-04-2022, 05:16 PM   #2921
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Russia is quickly becoming a much larger version of North Korea.
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Russia is quickly becoming a much larger version of North Korea.
Time to blast them with 10,000 speakers of Kpop!
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Ukrainian civilians are doing their bit to slow down the advance of Russian troops with mass harassment. Partially explains the Russian's slow advance through the cities aside from the Molotovs, etc.
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Ukrainian civilians are doing their bit to slow down the advance of Russian troops with mass harassment. Partially explains the Russian's slow advance through the cities aside from the Molotovs, etc.
That is really inspiring. It makes me proud to watch those people. And I hope and bet the Russians on the receiving end feel shame for what they're doing.
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Old 03-04-2022, 05:50 PM   #2925
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You learned about MAD or the cold war...or both?

And yeah maybe they still teach it and maybe they dont, admittedly have zero knowledge about it.

Im just suggesting the millions still around who lived that situation would have a different thought when the words are uttered such as "nuclear attack" or similar.

After the Bay of Pigs and the Cuban missile crisis, even brinksmanship came to a halt when it was apparent no one was really going to use nukes. Didnt stop the industrial war machine from building bigger/better/further reaching ones of course, but as long as both sides were able to anihilate the other, niether side was gonna use them.

Unfortunately that also works in Putins favor as much as his threats of using them allows him to stay in the bird seat.
Cold war, MAD, SALT agreements and START treaties, SDI(Star Wars-not the Ewok one). Alberta education, early to mid '90's. Unless our teacher went off script, I'd assume most Albertans that age learned them, no?
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Ukrainian civilians are doing their bit to slow down the advance of Russian troops with mass harassment. Partially explains the Russian's slow advance through the cities aside from the Molotovs, etc.
It raises the question as to what the Russian goal is at this point. If they occupy Ukraine or install a new government, they are likely going to be met with continued resistance. This isn't like the Crimea, where they can just take over and the population will be significantly pro-Russian. The West of the Ukraine seems fiercely anti-Russian. Are the Russians just going to be an occupying power for decades? Can Russia maintain that?
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They weren't any better in WWI either.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tannenberg
Yeah, Tannenberg is a good callback to what we’re seeing in Ukraine: vast numbers of poorly led and poorly equipped Russian soldiers blundering into the teeth of defenders who are intercepting their communications and know every move they’re going to make.
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It raises the question as to what the Russian goal is at this point. If they occupy Ukraine or install a new government, they are likely going to be met with continued resistance. This isn't like the Crimea, where they can just take over and the population will be significantly pro-Russian. The West of the Ukraine seems fiercely anti-Russian. Are the Russians just going to be an occupying power for decades? Can Russia maintain that?
I just read an analysis that says Russia has enough troops deployed to occupy Ukraine east of the Dnieper and along the Black Sea coast at about the same force density as the U.S. had in Iraq. So I doubt their ambitions were ever more than that. But who knows how deluded Putin is.
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Old 03-04-2022, 06:00 PM   #2929
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They call it "Mutually Assured Destruction" for a reason. Both the USA and Russia (formerly the USSR) spent decades building and positioning nukes in a way that made a disabling first strike, on either nation, impossible. As soon as the first nuke is fired, everyone is F-ed.
I know that. I was questioning your comment that the west was behind Russia in terms of military readiness. I do not believe that us true. That does not mean I think there is any winnable nuclear war scenario.
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Old 03-04-2022, 06:03 PM   #2930
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Lol. People of generations other than boomers don’t know what MAD is.

I think you’d be hard pressed to find anyone who hasn’t heard of MAD. They’ve been running those anti drunk driving commercials for 30 years.
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Lol. People of generations other than boomers don’t know what MAD is.

I think you’d be hard pressed to find anyone who hasn’t heard of MAD. They’ve been running those anti drunk driving commercials for 30 years.
You are thinking of MAMAD, Mothers Against Mutually Assured Destruction.
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A couple of my wife's female friends, also from Novosibirsk, were prevented from crossing the Kazakhstan land border. Apparently to cross into Kazakhstan at the land border, you need an emergency such as a pending operation in Kazakhstan or a death in the family.

I was also told that foreigners cannot cross land borders; the only option for them is a flight. My wife is not a foreigner but I thought I'd mention it.

So, based on this information, she chose not to make the 12 (or 20?) hour car ride with a two year old. That leaves the original flight on the 8th, which is a Kazakh airline, not Russian. I just have to hope/pray it doesn't get cancelled and she clears border security.
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Fingers crossed for ya, hope it works out smoothly.
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Old 03-04-2022, 06:35 PM   #2935
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A couple of my wife's female friends, also from Novosibirsk, were prevented from crossing the Kazakhstan land border. Apparently to cross into Kazakhstan at the land border, you need an emergency such as a pending operation in Kazakhstan or a death in the family.

I was also told that foreigners cannot cross land borders; the only option for them is a flight. My wife is not a foreigner but I thought I'd mention it.

So, based on this information, she chose not to make the 12 (or 20?) hour car ride with a two year old. That leaves the original flight on the 8th, which is a Kazakh airline, not Russian. I just have to hope/pray it doesn't get cancelled and she clears border security.
Going to be a very stressful 4 days. Can't imagine. All the best to you and your family.
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Old 03-04-2022, 06:44 PM   #2936
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Canadian sniper volunteers for the Ukrainian side.

https://twitter.com/dailyturkic/stat...043268098?s=21
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By the end of WWII, the USA was sending soldiers into combat with 2 weeks of basic training (it started out as 8 weeks). I'm sure any soldier with actual training is welcome in Ukraine right now.

It sounds like someone without training is about equal to a Russian soldier.
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Old 03-04-2022, 07:03 PM   #2938
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Haven't seen an update from Huntingwhale in a while. Hope all is OK
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Old 03-04-2022, 07:12 PM   #2939
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What's the difference between a Ruble and a Dollar?
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A Dollar.
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Haven't seen an update from Huntingwhale in a while. Hope all is OK
Was thinking the same thing, hoping all is well HW. You too Kn, unreal time this is right now just unbelievable.
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