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Old 03-20-2024, 10:32 AM   #2921
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OK, so Dan McLean is an idiot?
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Old 03-20-2024, 10:36 AM   #2922
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Dan McLean: “Affordability Crisis!”

Also Dan McLean: We need more red tape and have to prevent people from having their own agency to build what they want on their own property.
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Old 03-20-2024, 10:39 AM   #2923
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OK, so Dan McLean is an idiot?

It surprises me that Gondek is the only person with an active recall petition. Are people that cheap they don’t want to get rid of McLean, Chu, Wong?
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Old 03-20-2024, 10:47 AM   #2924
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It surprises me that Gondek is the only person with an active recall petition. Are people that cheap they don’t want to get rid of McLean, Chu, Wong?
Throw them all out. Can we call a mulligan on the last election and just have a re-do this fall?
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And the Elbow bridge in Mission will close entirely for 6 months
Unacceptable. This city is an absolute joke.
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It surprises me that Gondek is the only person with an active recall petition. Are people that cheap they don’t want to get rid of McLean, Chu, Wong?
It’s because people who do not identify with far right politics have better things to do with their time. People who identify with far right politics seem to make it their entire identity and dedicate their entire being to it.
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It’s because people who do not identify with far right politics have better things to do with their time. People who identify with far right politics seem to make it their entire identity and dedicate their entire being to it.
They are like oiler fans that way
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Old 03-20-2024, 10:57 AM   #2928
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They are like oiler fans that way
Yet Oilers fans on average voted for NDP. Weird flex.
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No, the whole making it their whole identity. Wandering the hinterlands in their jerseys and oiler pajama pants with dress shoes on.
Not at all about who they may have voted for.
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Old 03-20-2024, 11:29 AM   #2930
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So basically the UCP is recalling a politician they don't like dealing with? I'm sure this isn't illegal, but come the #### on. Can they be any more despicable and anti-democratic?
Not to mention highly hypocritical given all of Smith's comments to the Feds about "staying in their lane". Though shame and self-awareness has never been a problem for the TBA/UCP.
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Not to mention highly hypocritical given all of Smith's comments to the Feds about "staying in their lane". Though shame and self-awareness has never been a problem for the TBA/UCP.
You can be assured that if this situation was reversed with, say, Farkas being recalled by an NDP team she'd be ####ing apoplectic.
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It’s because people who do not identify with far right politics have better things to do with their time.
I don't think you've met the far left. They are just passionate (if not moreso), but they can be apolitical because they see the whole system as broken or irredeemable.
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I don't think you've met the far left. They are just passionate (if not moreso), but they can be apolitical because they see the whole system as broken or irredeemable.
No need to both sides this.

While Gondek is not a great political figure, whatever you want to criticize her for, Kenny and Smith have both been 10x worse by almost any measure. Less business friendly, more wasteful, further afield from their campaigns with policy, and just outright more divisive in their rhetoric and actions.

But what I have not seen is a concerted well finance recall petition from a group and is not mature enough to accept democratic results.
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The point is they've still successfully attacked Gondek so she doesn't stand much chance of re-election, and they've built a huge contact list of voters they know are easy to sway in their direction for the next election, when they focus all resources on one despicable POS of a person to put in the Mayors chair. If Gondek does decide to run again, the vote splitting on the sane side will all but assure a loss. In short, we are already ####ed, we just don't know how hard and by who.
*raises hand* I think the UCP/TBA contingent are completely devoid of any intelligence whatsoever, and I think that Gondek has been a regrettable choice and I fully have buyer's remorse on voting for her. Can I hold both of those positions and not disrupt the fabric of time and space?

These idiots and lunatics are what they are, but they just said out loud what a lot of people were already thinking. I just hope Gondek is smart enough not to run again.
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*raises hand* I think the UCP/TBA contingent are completely devoid of any intelligence whatsoever, and I think that Gondek has been a regrettable choice and I fully have buyer's remorse on voting for her. Can I hold both of those positions and not disrupt the fabric of time and space?

These idiots and lunatics are what they are, but they just said out loud what a lot of people were already thinking. I just hope Gondek is smart enough not to run again.
+1. I think it's possible to hold a view that specific politicians on both side of the political spectrum are terrible.

Personally, I'm hoping we get someone more pragmatic/less dogmatic next time for the mayor's race. Last time it felt like Gondek vs Farkas were two sides of the same coin. I voted "lesser of the two evils" which I now regret.

Maybe Davidson will run again.
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Maybe Davidson will run again.
You mean the UCP with a one-vote pawn among a slate of party pawns.
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So a pair of older woman spray painted over one of the Recall Gondek signs and changed it so say Respect Gondek

TBA losing their #### on social media trying to find out who they are. I'm laughing picturing David Parker huffing and puffing about how this old lady dares to "defy the grassroots"
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*raises hand* I think the UCP/TBA contingent are completely devoid of any intelligence whatsoever, and I think that Gondek has been a regrettable choice and I fully have buyer's remorse on voting for her. Can I hold both of those positions and not disrupt the fabric of time and space?

These idiots and lunatics are what they are, but they just said out loud what a lot of people were already thinking. I just hope Gondek is smart enough not to run again.
I'm disappointed in Gondek though she is roughly what I expected. I don't really have remorse though as I still think the alternatives would have been worse.

I particularly wonder where the rezoning plan would be right now under Davison or Farkas. I have a decent understanding of how council and administration actually work, but I'm not sure how differently senior administrators may have read the tea leaves [in terms of how strongly to push the rezoning plan] with a different mayor and/or composition of council.
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+1. I think it's possible to hold a view that specific politicians on both side of the political spectrum are terrible.

Personally, I'm hoping we get someone more pragmatic/less dogmatic next time for the mayor's race. Last time it felt like Gondek vs Farkas were two sides of the same coin. I voted "lesser of the two evils" which I now regret.

Maybe Davidson will run again.
It's a shame people viewed it as a two horse race, I actually thought Damery was the best candidate
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It's a shame people viewed it as a two horse race, I actually thought Damery was the best candidate
That's who I was going to vote for, and decided to throw my vote to Gondek last minute to make sure she won when it became a two-horse race. Maybe Damery will run again. I will be voting for a socially progressive fiscally responsible candidate.

I wouldn't vote for her again today, but the hate for Gondek now is just ridiculous. People realize that an entire city council is responsible for making decisions, right?

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