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M*A*S*H 4077 · 10-26-2019, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mango

Mason Trafford is an interesting player. He started the season injured and took a while to get acclimated, but he sure has proven to be such an important cog both with his leadership and play. A huge block today, surely preventing a 2-0 goal.

And he’s no longer handling the ball like a grenade! I’ve definitely come around on him and his importance to the team

browna · 10-26-2019, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Big Chill

We played awful even during the spells when the same number of players were on the pitch. You have to wonder if having the final 2/3rds or your season being exhibition games has a negative effect.

The ref was awful, neither should have been reds IMO, and the ball looks almost certainly out leading to the Forge goal.

To me, it’s always hard to get tactics back when you’ve been in prevent mode for the half hour or so they were down to 10, but they did get a few corners and were pumping the ball long. And, Cavs play better on grass, more of a possession game for sure.

Mango · 10-26-2019, 04:42 PM

Hmm.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1188207192413003778

jayswin · 10-26-2019, 04:57 PM

The officiating was pretty terrible and I was actually shocked a couple times with the reactions and words from the announcers as they seemed to be clearly favouring Forge.

But putting those two issues aside I was extremely impressed by Hamilton's showing in the stands today. Announced at nearly 11000, and they were rocking the whole game, what an atmosphere.

Our grandstand is mostly unsold for next weekend. Hopefully that turns around and we can put up some semblance of a showing for the big game.

shermanator · 10-26-2019, 06:11 PM

Cavs were dominated today. Neither red was warranted, but Cavs will take that any day. Good crowd in Hamilton, and the Rose and Crown was absolutely packed as well. 1-0 is by no means a bad result going into leg 2.

Pack the stands next Saturday, we got this.

cam_wmh · 10-26-2019, 06:24 PM

Late to my getting here, as I just got home.

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Originally Posted by M*A*S*H 4077

Next to Zator Waterman has been their best CB, disagree with your take

Candidly, grossly incorrect.
The top two are Trafford and Waterman. Tough to distinguish between the two.

There's a reason when the three play in the back, Zator is on the perimeter.

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Originally Posted by M*A*S*H 4077

And he’s no longer handling the ball like a grenade! I’ve definitely come around on him and his importance to the team

Shocking take.

M*A*S*H 4077 · 10-26-2019, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cam_wmh

Late to my getting here, as I just got home.

Candidly, grossly incorrect.
The top two are Trafford and Waterman. Tough to distinguish between the two.

There's a reason when the three play in the back, Zator is on the perimeter.

Shocking take.

Well we agree on Waterman’s importance.

I think Zator has been more consistent than Trafford. Early in the season (to be fair Trafford was coming back from injury) his touch was really rough and he had many misplayed passes putting his teammates in tough positions. I think Zator has had a more consistent touch and impact on the game than Trafford has this season. Zator has been forced to FB with the injuries and filled in admirably, but I think his pace is missed in the middle. As the season has gone on Trafford’s touch has come around and his experience is really starting to shine. I wasn’t high on him early, but now he’s an integral part

Yoho · 10-27-2019, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by cam_wmh

Late to my getting here, as I just got home.

Candidly, grossly incorrect.
The top two are Trafford and Waterman. Tough to distinguish between the two.

There's a reason when the three play in the back, Zator is on the perimeter.

Shocking take.

Zator is way better and more overall impactful than either those two.

shermanator · 10-27-2019, 08:44 AM

Zator is one of the best CB's in the league. There is a reason why he is getting interest with the national team. Waterman is a decent CB for this level but is prone to costly mistakes and is not in the same conversation of Zator, IMO.

The only reason why Zator is playing RB at this stage in the season is because we've had two RB's tear their ACL's, and he is the most competent defender that can fill in at that spot. The other option is Malyk Hamilton, but he struggles defensively, although provides more options offensively.

If we have at a fully healthy Cavalry squad Waterman likely isn't in the starting lineup. If Tommy plays a 3-5-2, the 3 CB's are Trafford, Zator and one of Waterman or Wheeldon. If Tommy plays a 4-2-3-1, the CB's will be Zator and Trafford, with Mavila at LB and Serban at RB.

I've thought Waterman has been at his best when he's come in at CM, particularly in the first away game in Edmonton, where his substitution completely changed the dynamic of the game offensively.

MillerTime GFG · 10-27-2019, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by browna

Moody Malonga comes out. Good.

Another pic of the ball that was out, that would’ve meant the goal 10 seconds later never happened.

That’s not a conclusive angle at all. Looking down the sideline, that ball could be in. (I didn’t watch the game, but all I’m saying is that picture does not prove it was out).

Muta · 10-27-2019, 11:24 AM

Huh? That ball is clearly behind Nanco's left foot, directly under his right foot as he's pivoting with it out of bounds. The line isn't even being impeded by the ball's shadow, let alone the ball. The ball is not airborne at all. It is definitely out. It was clear as day too on the broadcast, everyone at the Rose and Crown saw it, just as it is clear as day in this photo.

Jimmy Stang · 10-27-2019, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Big Chill

What are the chances the league rescinds that card?

There is a lot of Twitter speculation of an appeal by Forge. So as much as I’d love to say 0%, I’m going to go with 50/50 because of the Forge/Borges factor.

Thunderball · 10-27-2019, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Stang

There is a lot of Twitter speculation of an appeal by Forge. So as much as I’d love to say 0%, I’m going to go with 50/50 because of the Forge/Borges factor.

If the league has any credibility, the appeal will be rejected... so expect Borges on Saturday.

If Escalante gets a straight red for his altercation with Telfer, Borges gets a red every single time. Even ignoring that, everyone knows, you take a swing at someone's head with your leg, whether you connect or not, instigated or not, you're getting ejected.

Slava · 10-27-2019, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Stang

There is a lot of Twitter speculation of an appeal by Forge. So as much as I’d love to say 0%, I’m going to go with 50/50 because of the Forge/Borges factor.

On OneSoccer they were effectively campaigning for the appeal. They don't think it was a red and blah, blah blah.

Reminder, cancel your subscription and don't pay into November!

shermanator · 10-27-2019, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Stang

There is a lot of Twitter speculation of an appeal by Forge. So as much as I’d love to say 0%, I’m going to go with 50/50 because of the Forge/Borges factor.

It's more than speculation. Forge have appealed the red card. Because it's "the league's best player" I imagine it will be overturned.

jayswin · 10-27-2019, 03:04 PM

Holy crap, obviously cant trust a forecast six days out but right now it's supposed to be 11 degrees on Saturday.

If that holds I could easily see the fairweather fans and families filling up Spruce Meadows.

MillerTime GFG · 10-27-2019, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Muta

Huh? That ball is clearly behind Nanco's left foot, directly under his right foot as he's pivoting with it out of bounds. The line isn't even being impeded by the ball's shadow, let alone the ball. The ball is not airborne at all. It is definitely out. It was clear as day too on the broadcast, everyone at the Rose and Crown saw it, just as it is clear as day in this photo.

You cannot from that angle determine it’s out. It’s like curling rocks...unless you’re looking from the top, or directly down the line, you cannot determine if it’s out. That camera angle is the most favourable one you could find to conclude that ball is “out”. Also, see corner kick placements. Those often look over the line from the camera angle (behind the ball), but they are not.

So no, that ball is not “definitely out”. It could have been out, but that angle can not conclude that.

FlamesFanStrandedInEDM · 10-27-2019, 05:28 PM

Is there any outrage outside of The cavalry fan base regarding the CPL’s favouritism towards Forge?

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shermanator · 10-27-2019, 06:17 PM

Here was a different angle of the sideline touch that led to the Borges goal. If it is on the line, it is just barely. If you watch the highlights, the ref actually begins to give Cavalry a throw in but didn't in the end. I think Carducci has to make a better effort on that shot, but whether it was in or not is highly debatable.

Of course, if Cavalry supporters express outrage we are labelled as whiners, so we'll just have to beat Forge by 2 on Saturday. That goal may have been debatable but the 3 crossbars went in Cavalry's favour. Both the fan base and club can't make any excuses. Fans need to buy tickets and the club needs to score goals. Period.

Slava · 10-27-2019, 07:03 PM

^ from that angle, it’s in.

Truth is, Cavalry has to score goals as you say. But when you're a man down for a chunk of the game that's a big ask. I don't give them a pass for yesterday per se, but they have the skill and tenacity to dig themselves out of this. I'll be there doing my part, and hopefully they do theirs!

Oh and #### the Forge.