The 2016 US American Election Thread

[peter12]

Originally Posted by jammies

Peter12 would be considered a moderate in the US. This is a thread about American politics. I don't think it's fair to characterize him as a wingnut in this particular context, the arguments being presented in that vein are implicitly assuming things about the American political milieu that are simply not true. Not that I agree with him in any respect, but religion is a far more powerful force in America than it is here, so attempts to characterize him as some kind of extremist wacko show more about the posters' ignorance than insight.

Jammies is actually one of the few posters whom I never agree with, but always end up enjoying discussions.

It is a fact that most of the people on here probably never spend their personal time with those whose political or moral views significantly differ from their own.

It's the infection feeding our sickness of moral absolutism and political hyper-partisanship where every debate becomes a fight to the death with a mortal enemy.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by peter12

Jammies is actually one of the few posters whom I never agree with, but always end up enjoying discussions.

It is a fact that most of the people on here probably never spend their personal time with those whose political or moral views significantly differ from their own.

It's the infection feeding our sickness of moral absolutism and political hyper-partisanship where every debate becomes a fight to the death with a mortal enemy.

Tone down the pompous arrogance juuuuuust a little bit if you don't mind.

[CaptainCrunch]

I've been watching the video and looking at the people being interviewed or blabbing and their social media accounts or other places, because that was the first place that I wanted to go, with the assumption that these are actors or nobodies etc., andbut the people showing up on screens the Scott Foval's, the Aaron Blacks and others linked heavily to the Democratic party, those are them talking about disrupting events and encouraging violent actions.

At first I thought I would be enraged. But then my actual reaction was more apathy. What a surprise, that both parties are engaged in dirty tactics, unscrupulous and unethical behavior? Lets be honest, nobody that runs for the white house is an idealist trying to change the world for the better, they want the power.

[Senator Clay Davis]

So Trump isn't pulling out of Virginia after all?

[photon]

Wikileaks journalism at its finest. Cut twice, measure once.

[Alpine Fisher]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I've been watching the video and looking at the people being interviewed or blabbing and their social media accounts or other places, because that was the first place that I wanted to go, with the assumption that these are actors or nobodies etc., andbut the people showing up on screens the Scott Foval's, the Aaron Blacks and others linked heavily to the Democratic party, those are them talking about disrupting events and encouraging violent actions.

At first I thought I would be enraged. But then my actual reaction was more apathy. What a surprise, that both parties are engaged in dirty tactics, unscrupulous and unethical behavior? Lets be honest, nobody that runs for the white house is an idealist trying to change the world for the better, they want the power.

I think the biggest outrage is that the MSM won't report on this undercover video. This is why alot of the electorate doesn't watch or trust CNN, NBC, CBS, FOX, ABC.

I support neither the Republican Party or Democractic Party because as CaptainCrunch mentioned, they are equally corrupt.
The fact that the Republican Party is hanging Trump out to try, says something about this refusal to buy into Establishment Politics and Corruption.

Not to say that Trump won't become corrupt, if and when he becomes President.

A little unnerving when you see that 2 Families essentially control the United States. Looking at the Past and Future Presidencies

Bush Sr
Clinton
Bush Jr
Clinton?

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

So Trump isn't pulling out of Virginia after all?

Too little too late for the Trump campaign. 538 currently shows Hillary has a 93% of winning Virginia, and she's got a double-digit lead in the latest poll.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/...cast/virginia/

[Minnie]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

So Trump isn't pulling out of Virginia

Well this isn't at all out of character for him, apparently.

[Gozer]

Originally Posted by Alpine Fisher

I think the biggest outrage is that the MSM won't report on this undercover video. This is why alot of the electorate doesn't watch or trust CNN, NBC, CBS, FOX, ABC.

'Cause they have standards.

Sleazy hitjobs with deceptive editing are not worthy of being reported on by these entities.

Also, no one needs the MSM for publicity anymore.
He can get all the views he deserves independently

[Drak]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

So Trump isn't pulling out of Virginia after all?

Not a surprise. When did Virginia come forward with her complaint?

[photon]

Originally Posted by Alpine Fisher

I think the biggest outrage is that the MSM won't report on this undercover video. This is why alot of the electorate doesn't watch or trust CNN, NBC, CBS, FOX, ABC.

Which is another example of people's expectations and reality not lining up. The likely reason this hasn't been picked up by any reputable organization is that they won't release the unedited tapes.

And they won't because that's the only way they can make it seem like something's there.

Meanwhile it's openly advertised you can earn thousands by getting on TV shouting Bill's a Rapist with a rape T-shirt at a democratic speech.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Alpine Fisher

Bush Sr
Clinton
Bush Jr
Obama
Clinton
Obama

Three families.

[Gozer]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Lets be honest, nobody that runs for the white house is an idealist trying to change the world for the better, they want the power.

Bernie /IMG

This guy got access to Hillary's DNC voter registration info, reported it to the DNC, and fired a guy that ran a query on it. Hillary vilified him for it.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I wonder if she realizes this defense A) sucks and B) makes him look really pathetic, that a 59 year old can be "egged on" by a loser Hollywood reporter.

CNN Breaking NewsVerified account
‏@cnnbrk
Melania Trump says her husband was egged on by Billy Bush when he made sexually aggressive remarks http://cnn.it/2ebOpwX

https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/788124509211623425

[Drak]

Sure, throw Billy Bush under that bus.

[nik-]

Honestly, will anyone be shocked if she files for divorce as soon as this election is over?

[Alpine Fisher]

Originally Posted by nik-

Honestly, will anyone be shocked if she files for divorce as soon as this election is over?

She is smarter than that. I'm sure they have an arrangement.

[Drak]

Originally Posted by nik-

Honestly, will anyone be shocked if she files for divorce as soon as this election is over?

Will anyone care?

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Drak

Will anyone care?

I'll be glued to my TV set

[Senator Clay Davis]

This thought just popped into my head about Melania should she divorce him, but are we about to see the record for most books ever to come out of a campaign? Or will everyone be bound by NDAs and we'll get nothing?