2014/2015 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Incogneto]

MOD EDIT: Let's not get into those types of rumors

[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

Good luck with that, aging forward on a not that cheap contract who is reported to be a cancer in the dressing room.

Now that we have got the typical CPuck response out of the way, I could see a team that is looking for Vet help to push them past the second round parting with their 1st for Sharp's services.. but it won't be the Flames.

Well this blew up in my face, I guess I should have done it this way.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by icecube

Terrible terrible deal for the leafs. Worst proposal since drouin for Cammalleri

I don't know. Kessel has shown in Toronto that his 30+ goals every year don't contribute to a winner and by the time his deal is on the back side I'm not sure he will be much of a player unless he starts changing his diet and exercise routine by a full 180. As least with Semin they will be able to likely move him in 2.5 years or so at the deadline when he's UFA. Maybe people don't realize but Kessel's deal counts for an $8 million salary cap hit annually until 2022. We know today he's not a winner and not a great leader so personally I feel three years of Semin is much less riskier of a proposition especially if he can get back to being a point a game player or close.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by icecube

Terrible terrible deal for the leafs. Worst proposal since drouin for Cammalleri

Have you seen Drouin play lately? I realize he's still young but he looked terrible tonight when on the ice. He plays small and I wonder if he's one of those fast risers that benefitted from playing with the best player in the draft. He looks like he could use some time in the AHL. I wonder if the draft gets a re-do where he would get picked. It's too early to write him off but I wouldn't be surprised if the Lightning go a different direction with that pick. If Drouin slipped to the Flames at 5th I would have been doing cartwheels but now I'm pretty glad that never happened.

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I don't know. Kessel has shown in Toronto that his 30+ goals every year don't contribute to a winner and by the time his deal is on the back side I'm not sure he will be much of a player unless he starts changing his diet and exercise routine by a full 180. As least with Semin they will be able to likely move him in 2.5 years or so at the deadline when he's UFA. Maybe people don't realize but Kessel's deal counts for an $8 million salary cap hit annually until 2022. We know today he's not a winner and not a great leader so personally I feel three years of Semin is much less riskier of a proposition especially if he can get back to being a point a game player or close.

So you think if he goes to a better team it won't? Hockey is a team game.

[sureLoss]

Friedman on CBC:

teams are starting to get serious on Phil Kessel. Should be approaching Toronto soon to ask what it would take
Bruins have told Soderberg that they won't be able to bring him back next season with their cap issues
Mike Reilly expected to narrow his list down to 3 or 4 teams
Competition committee has started debating reducing the size of goalie pants and jerseys. Wont happen for next season but could happen somewhere down the line.

[FlameZilla]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

So you think if he goes to a better team it won't? Hockey is a team game.

Can a better team accommodate his cap hit?

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

Leafs would be idiots not to take this deal. Rebuild in Toronto is necessary and Semin's deal will be done by the time they turn it around and become a contender

Wasn't long ago some Flames fans were saying how do we replace Jay Bo's minutes? How do we replace Kippers 70 starts a year? How do we replace Iggy's 30 to 40 goals a year? We did it by drafting top players at the top of the draft adding extra picks and making good picks. I do agree that too many fans think too many teams need to dump star players and rebuild....but it is necessary for the leafs right now and if they can add 5th overall pick no brainer they should go for it. Even is it means losing Kessel (who is already gone).

Kadri? he is useless

a 50 point centre with little PP time is useless?

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Friedman on CBC:

teams are starting to get serious on Phil Kessel. Should be approaching Toronto soon to ask what it would take
Bruins have told Soderberg that they won't be able to bring him back next season with their cap issues
Mike Reilly expected to narrow his list down to 3 or 4 teams
Competition committee has started debating reducing the size of goalie pants and jerseys. Wont happen for next season but could happen somewhere down the line.

Flames would serve well getting in on Soderberg. Im surprised the Bruins are letting him walk.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

So you think if he goes to a better team it won't? Hockey is a team game.

Exactly hockey is a team game as the Flames proved this season and Kessel's not exactly a team player is he or he would be considered part of the solution in Toronto as opposed to part of the problem.

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Flames would serve well getting in on Soderberg. Im surprised the Bruins are letting him walk.

Bruins have no choice. They are in cap hell.

That's why I'm confused why they fired the GM, Sweeney has so little to work with.

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Exactly hockey is a team game as the Flames proved this season and Kessel's not exactly a team player is he or he would be considered part of the solution in Toronto as opposed to part of the problem.

They are going to trade everyobe. Kessel is a very good player with elite talent. If he wasn't, no teams would be interested.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

Bruins have no choice. They are in cap hell.

That's why I'm confused why they fired the GM, Sweeney has so little to work with.

That's likely a big reason why they fired Chiarelli.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

They are going to trade everyobe. Kessel is a very good player with elite talent. If he wasn't, no teams would be interested.

They aren't trading everybody. Just the players they don't think are capable of helping them turn things around. I realize the Toronto media will make it sound like there's a boat load of interest but I am curious to see just how many teams can really stomach that contract until 2022. At the end of the day I don't think the list will be big unless the Leafs accept a bad deal in return.

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

They aren't trading everybody. Just the players they don't think are capable of helping them turn things around. I realize the Toronto media will make it sound like there's a boat load of interest but I am curious to see just how many teams can really stomach that contract until 2022. At the end of the day I don't think the list will be big unless the Leafs accept a bad deal in return.

Why do you think the Toronto media exaggerates the value of Leaf players? The Toronto media says Phabeuf is worthless, Kessel is horrible, and Mike Babcock will never set foot in Toronto.

Am I wrong? Where does this idea come from that the media does this?

I will disagree with you strongly. If Phil Kessel plays in Nashvile the last few years with the same stats, he receives no criticism and the perception of his value is higher.

Kessel will bring back a first rounder+ a nice prospect. Guaranteed.

[Vinny01]

Phaneuf is overpaid as an elite #1D when he is better suited to be a number 3. The problem with Kessel is he is paid to bea franchise player when he is more of a complementary piece. These guys are not bad players but they are not franchise talents. Teams can afford to pay 3-4 players in that 7-8M range which limits the talent you can out around those players. Teams need to ensure they get the right players signed for that Franchise money.

[Mattman]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Flames would serve well getting in on Soderberg. Im surprised the Bruins are letting him walk.

Would be a good upgrade on Backlund, and it makes him expendable to upgrade other areas of the team.

And I know I always bring up Simmonds in Philly but damn he would be perfect.

Backlund
Grandlund
Wotherspoon
2015 2nd
for
Simmonds
MacDonald

I could honestly live with that type of package.

[Jason14h]

Backlund
Grandlund
Wotherspoon
2015 2nd
for
Simmonds
MacDonald

I think most Flames fans would be ecstatic! I don't really understand why Philly would do it!

[UKflames]

Day after day we see posts where the flames are going to be taking full advantage of teams in cap hell and taking on bad contracts packaged with early picks or 'due for a breakout' propspects, can we please just stop. The Flames have had cap space for two seasons now, teams have been in cap trouble for the whole time and have we seen any of these types of moves, no.
Teams are not just going to be giving away players to get out of trouble, that is the quicketst way for a GM to lose their job. These teams are very creative and find ways to keep their best players without giving them up for 10c on the dollar. Their are of course exceptions to this with teams like the leafs who have now realised that they need to off load and rebuild but won't do a very good job of it.

[dammage79]

That's a decent idea.

Sign Soderberg to a Hudler type deal, move Backlund for something you need.

6'3" 216lbs Soderberg vs. 6'0" 198 Backlund? Good upgrade on size, small downgrade on faceoffs.

Had less ice time and played a full 82 games this past season while notching 44 points.

I think it's an upgrade and a reasonable one. Age may play a factor for some.