The trials and tribulations of Glen Gulutzan

[Erick Estrada]

I thought there may have been a power struggle between Tippett and Maloney at the end of his tenure in Phoenix? I don't know how close Treliving is to him but he's going to command a minimum of 3 year deal so there's no way you convince him to come in and finish the season. Gulutzan is 100% going to finish the season so fans have to accept that.

[Itse]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

I've been watching alot of GG seminars latley and I'm not a huge fan of his defensive coverage philosophies. This one in particular.

This video doesn't really scream "great hockey mind" to me in any way. Or maybe he's just a bad communicator. In any case a lot of the time there he's kind of just rambling, saying things that are not obviously connected, and not a lot that's very useful or specific. Lot of very generic stuff too, stuff that I could probably "teach" with a bit of preparation.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

TAnd really it makes no sense to me. Gulutzan isn't a hard assed coach all over these guys any time they make a mistake, they don't get sat if they make a mistake, they are all just putting this pressure on themselves in their own heads.

I disagree. Gulutzan seems to use a lot of negative reinforcement in his language. He may be a "nice guy" but you definitely see that he puts shackles on the players to play a low risk style. Hartley might have been a hardass but used a lot of positive reinforcement, you could see it in the green light he gave younger players, defensemen, etc.

When you're told every mistake will cost the team, that snowballs - IMO more than being at risk of being sat. On the flip side Gulutzan doesn't have much of a reward system for strong play so there is an implicit lean towards not standing out.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Take your pick CP: GG or Cameron? That's prety much your 2 choices. No chance they hire a veteran coach when there is a chance on some good names coming out this summer. No they are not putting in f***** Gelinas as head coach.

Huska is the obvious choice you are missing

[kukkudo]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Huska is the obvious choice you are missing

But why bring Huska up for just 30 games? He wont be the coach for 2018/2019 anyway. Let him continue developing young talent.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

I disagree. Gulutzan seems to use a lot of negative reinforcement in his language. He may be a "nice guy" but you definitely see that he puts shackles on the players to play a low risk style. Hartley might have been a hardass but used a lot of positive reinforcement, you could see it in the green light he gave younger players, defensemen, etc.

When you're told every mistake will cost the team, that snowballs - IMO more than being at risk of being sat. On the flip side Gulutzan doesn't have much of a reward system for strong play so there is an implicit lean towards not standing out.

That is a fair point.

Not tough from a discipline perspective but does constantly reinforce not taking penalties or committing turnovers. Although I'm sure every coach does that - hard to see exactly what is going on in the room that is breeding this mentality.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by kukkudo

But why bring Huska up for just 30 games? He wont be the coach for 2018/2019 anyway. Let him continue developing young talent.

If you are going to fire GG and not being in a veteran coach then he would be the logical choice. Not Cameron who should also be fired if thst was the case.

The only reason I hesitate on the Flames hiring Sutter now is the chance AV or Quenville will be available this summer and they would be my top 2 choices.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

11 wins in 24 games. But keep cherry picking two win streaks from two seasons as justification for keeping this coach. GG admits Desjardins changed his mind on how to play D, and clearly his line rolling was also a product of Desjardins. Where is Desjardins now?

What are you talking about cherry picking 2 seasons of win streaks? You're the one cherry picking a weird number like 24 games. This is a cyclical league, we won 7 games in a row and now we're having a rough stretch in the last 6. All teams go through stretches like this. No one else is any different.

If you want facts, we made the playoffs last season and we're in striking distance to do the same this season. It's not like we're not in basement. No idea why you're bringing up Desjardins. It's not like the guy was a terrible coach. No one is taking that rebuilding team way past their prime to the playoffs even though he was able to do so in 14-15.

Why don't we just skewer Mike Babcock as well for his last place finish in 15-16 or Jared Bednar for his performance with Avalanche last season. Oh wait, Bednar is likely to be a Jack Adams candidate this season, so I guess not. I'm gonna say it here, too many people here put way too much stock into coaching. It's the players on the ice that determine the results more than anything.

[I_H8_Crawford]

So... has anyone been surprised that the Flames followed a 7 game win streak with a (at least) 6 game losing streak?

....
....
...

Didn't think so... this IMO is why GG needs to go.

[Locke]

I think the 'Thumbs Up' on this thread needs to be eliminated.

[kukkudo]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

If you are going to fire GG and not being in a veteran coach then he would be the logical choice. Not Cameron who should also be fired if thst was the case.

The only reason I hesitate on the Flames hiring Sutter now is the chance AV or Quenville will be available this summer and they would be my top 2 choices.

Im with you on this. But that's what I mean no point bringing Huska in now, just ride it out.

[Otto-matic]

Pat Steinberg‏Verified account
@Fan960Steinberg
Following Following @Fan960Steinberg
More
Lines and pairings status quo for Calgary this morning. Smith practicing in the starter’s net. #Flames

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by kukkudo

Im with you on this. But that's what I mean no point bringing Huska in now, just ride it out.

I do get the feeling this will be how it plays out with GG getting the year. Friedman stated this morning a firing is a last resort move.

I just don’t agree Cameron is the only option. Teams use their AHL coaches as interim from time to time.

[Toonage]

No surprises with the lines. 4L clicking, PP got a goal, Monahan & Ferland back on the score sheet and I suspect Smith will be highly motivated. Bring it on.

Also, bring on the wild mood swings I will no doubt suffer while watching this game. And bring on the alcohol. Copious amounts of alcohol.

[Gunkle]

If ownership is content keeping GG until next year, please ownership tell me why I want to pay to watch this team until next year.

You have a glaring issue. Fix it.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Gunkle

If ownership is content keeping GG until next year, please ownership tell me why I want to pay to watch this team until next year.

You have a glaring issue. Fix it.

In reality the only real glaring issue is the PP - the rest of this teams struggles over the last two months are actually hard to pin point.

Since Dec 6th:

11-6-7

52 ESGF - 14th
41 ESGA - 4th
55.9 GF% - 6th

+11 GF/GA against at Even Strength, and top half of the league in both categories is pretty damn good and 6th overall in the differential between the two at Even Strength.

52.31% Corsi For Percentage - 7th
52.3% Scoring Chance Percentage - 9th
55.10% High Danger Chance Percentage - 5th

5v5 Advanced stats align with the actual GF/GA - based on this they should be a top 10 team at 5v5 in that time frame and have done a really good job at limiting high danger chances (6th) while still generating their own chances (13th).

13% PP - 28th - 11 PPGF
86.1% PK - 4th - 11 PPGA

The bad stretch is entirely on the PP. They create a lot 5v5 and are 5th in PP opportunities due to that, but are tied for 21st in PP goals. PK is great over this stretch but taking penalties could be better still - 8th most penalties in that time. Funny part is the PK has been equally as good as the PP has been bad - cancelling each other out at 11 GF/GA.

3-2 in OT
0-5 in SO

Going 0-5 in the coin flip shootout is very unlucky in itself and even 3 more points/wins would go a long way right now. Then they are 3-2 in the regular OT, probably about right for this team.

Bad PP and bad results in the Shootout is why this team has been bad for the last two months.

These last two games are really just a microcosm of the last two months. Good 5v5, good PK, overall outplaying other teams 5v5 but for whatever reason they can't drive it the last 10% over that finish line when they need to.

When you look deeper into it it feels like the real course of action here is to somehow jump start the offense whether through A) New PP Coach B)A Real Finisher. That is where the problem lies though - we gave up too many assets to acquire Hamonic, Stone, & Smith over the last year and now we are in a jam.

[Otto-matic]

#Flames trying something new on PP...

Gaudreau-Tkachuk-Monahan
Hamilton-Giordan

Praise the lord!

[MikePatton]

Originally Posted by Otto-matic

#Flames trying something new on PP...

Gaudreau-Tkachuk-Monahan
Hamilton-Giordan

Praise the lord!

Is this a tweet or a desire? If this is a tweet then OH MAN FINALLY.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Otto-matic

#Flames trying something new on PP...

Gaudreau-Tkachuk-Monahan
Hamilton-Giordan

Praise the lord!

FINALLLLLLLY



Source:

News Update

@Fan960Wills
#Flames trying something new on PP...
Gaudreau-Tkachuk-Monahan
Hamilton-Giordano

[Otto-matic]

Originally Posted by MikePatton

Is this a tweet or a desire? If this is a tweet then OH MAN FINALLY.

So far they are using this line in practice. We'll see tomorrow if GG goes soft and plants Brouwer onto the top line again.