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Old 11-10-2015, 04:17 AM   #2901
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Was this ever proven with a conviction? Likely a plea bargain of some sort, but it still makes me wonder what the actual truth might be on this.
"[...]But last December, the charges were dropped when the Denver District Attorney’s Office decided it could not expect a conviction.

Lynn Kimbrough, communications director for the Denver District Attorney’s Office, said the charges were dropped when a key witness, who had observed the injuries to Vavrinyuk but not the alleged assault, changed her story after giving an initial statement to the police.

Kimbrough said Monday it was not a case of “not believing our victim, not believing an assault had occurred. It spoke strictly to our ability to be able to prove it.” "

So it falls under the 'who really knows' category. But the charges were dropped and I believe she's even gone back to Russia.

Either way, I am strongly of the belief that a girlfriend isn't going to spark fire without there being some kind of smoke to begin with.

My personal belief is that if she is guilty of anything it would be an exaggeration of the truth. But I still think there is some truth to all of it for there to have ever been a problem to begin with. He did start the whole thing by turning himself in after all.

Hoping this doesn't de-rail everything entirely, but I absolutely do not want him near our team.
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Old 11-10-2015, 04:19 AM   #2902
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"[...]But last December, the charges were dropped when the Denver District Attorney’s Office decided it could not expect a conviction.

Lynn Kimbrough, communications director for the Denver District Attorney’s Office, said the charges were dropped when a key witness, who had observed the injuries to Vavrinyuk but not the alleged assault, changed her story after giving an initial statement to the police.

Kimbrough said Monday it was not a case of “not believing our victim, not believing an assault had occurred. It spoke strictly to our ability to be able to prove it.” "

So it falls under the 'who really knows' category. But the charges were dropped and I believe she's even gone back to Russia.

Either way, I am strongly of the belief that a girlfriend isn't going to spark fire without there being some kind of smoke to begin with. Personally, if she is guilty of anything it would be an exaggeration of the truth. But I still think there is some truth to all of it for there to have ever been a problem to begin with.

He did start the whole thing by turning himself in.

Hoping this doesn't de-rail everything entirely, but I absolutely do not want him near our team.
There is still a pending civil suit against him apparently.

He is innocent until proven guilty, but that stigma is still a hard one to break.
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Old 11-10-2015, 04:21 AM   #2903
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There is still a pending civil suit against him apparently.

He is innocent until proven guilty, but that stigma is still a hard one to break.
Oh boy, I thought that was buried. Even worse!

And yeah, there's definitely the stigma that he won't be able to shake. I have to think his personality is somewhat abrasive to have even been in that situation.

Don't recall any negative viewpoints from Avs players though...
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Old 11-10-2015, 04:21 AM   #2904
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Could get interesting in Colorado

@adater: Hearing rumblings Varlamov could be in play as Avs trade bait. The word is could. Interesting discussions going on though

@adater: Iginla to Montreal at deadline. If Avs are out of it by then, very good chance this could happen https://t.co/jj3YIUXfLP

@adater: No. I think the Avs will trade Duchene this year though. https://t.co/YNOXVe0Hau

@adater: Things very turbulent right now with Avs brass.This record won't stand without a shakeup.Next 2 weeks will say a lot https://t.co/dheDaT7Yty

Varlamov would be interesting. Would be an upgrade in net but at same time would last years off ice incident dampen interest?

is that a typo? He's responding to a question about a trade proposal (duchene/barrie for stamkos), but his response seems like a typo. Regardless of how bad things are, i would have thought duchene is one of the real untouchables there.
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I started reading the last page then went... who the F is DSP???

Is it that hard to type out D'vante Jayda-Pinkett-Smyth Elvis Adunkle Pelle?
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is that a typo? He's responding to a question about a trade proposal (duchene/barrie for stamkos), but his response seems like a typo. Regardless of how bad things are, i would have thought duchene is one of the real untouchables there.
Looking at HF sure sounds like Duchene is available.
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Old 11-10-2015, 05:22 AM   #2907
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What would be the cost of getting Duchene? Would absolutely love him on the flames.
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Old 11-10-2015, 05:29 AM   #2908
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Would love to see Ducher here, but we're already pretty deep down the middle (unless he plays wing).
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Duchene would be a fantastic addition so the Flames could have 4 young elite forwards to build 2 lines around. Play Duchene and Bennett together oh man what a line that would be.

Backlund, Porier, 1st?
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Old 11-10-2015, 05:34 AM   #2910
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Duchene would be a fantastic addition so the Flames could have 4 young elite forwards to build 2 lines around. Play Duchene and Bennett together oh man what a line that would be.

Backlund, Porier, 1st?
you're trading one of those other 3 young forwards if you're getting Duchene

unless its after the season and that 1st ends up in the lottery

plus the Avs need defensive help, not that the Flames would do it but they would probably want Brodie back for Duchene
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It's hard to predict trades now look what we got Hamilton for.
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Old 11-10-2015, 05:36 AM   #2912
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What would be the cost of getting Duchene? Would absolutely love him on the flames.
One of Bennett, Brodie, Gaudreau or Monahan and the Avs likely want something added on to those guys as well.
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Old 11-10-2015, 05:39 AM   #2913
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It's hard to predict trades now look what we got Hamilton for.
it depends, all things being said the Bruins handled that trade horribly

they had a disgruntled player and didnt make it well known around the league he was available

if this Duchene news is getting out then the Avs are basically courting offers
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One of Bennett, Brodie, Gaudreau or Monahan and the Avs likely want something added on to those guys as well.
Johnny Skittles? That you?
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One of Bennett, Brodie, Gaudreau or Monahan and the Avs likely want something added on to those guys as well.
Duchene isn't worth more than any of those guys except maybe Bennett. Duchene is a good player but also pretty overrated. He's looking more and more like a good #2 center rather than a true #1 guy.
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Duchene isn't worth more than any of those guys except maybe Bennett. Duchene is a good player but also pretty overrated. He's looking more and more like a good #2 center rather than a true #1 guy.
Was just going to say this.

Duchene is 24 now, and is wildly inconsistent with his offensive production, if anything his production has steadily dropped.

Not saying he's garbage or anything, but he's over rated IMO.

I'd happily have him on the Flames, but not at great cost.
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Duchene isn't worth more than any of those guys except maybe Bennett. Duchene is a good player but also pretty overrated. He's looking more and more like a good #2 center rather than a true #1 guy.
Bennett will be better than Monahan shortly IMO. I would trade Monahan before Bennett at this point.
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it depends, all things being said the Bruins handled that trade horribly

they had a disgruntled player and didnt make it well known around the league he was available

if this Duchene news is getting out then the Avs are basically courting offers
The Avs have been pretty bad at trades so far under Sakic so I am not sure they are going to clean up. Having said that they likely move Duchene east of it happens and if it does they are going back into rebuild.

Grigerenko is close to a bust, Zadorov appears to have some issues, and they got an early 2nd for RoR who is a 200ft player that can put up points.

In my proposal the Flames give up a recent first round pick who was an AHL all star at 19, a first round pick and a solid 3rd line C to play behind Mackinnon and Soderberg. We all know the Avs love ex-Flames as well.

If we could protect that first rounder to be a top 10 selection for 2016 and add Russell I would do that as well.

Simply no to trading one of the Flames 3 young stud forwards.
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I like our group of centers as they are.

Goaltending, RW and a premiere checking forward are on my wish list.
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I'd rather move Monahan than Bennett at this point but probably wouldn't move either for Duchene.

He was average last year and has been off to a very slow start this season
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