02-27-2026, 12:30 PM
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#28861
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
The thing with Kadri is he needs to be competing for something to be a good player. We saw the same thing in the terrible season with Darryl. As they fell out of things, his play worsened. He's a competitive guy and when he's not competing for something, he's not very good. So for a competing team, that shouldn't matter because they are in the race.
Not saying that's a good thing. You would hope that his effort is consistent. But it seems well established that he's at his best when the stakes are high, and at his worst when they aren't.
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Agreed. To me, for someone who's supposed to be playing a leadership role, it's a bad example to be setting.
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02-27-2026, 12:30 PM
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#28862
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First Line Centre
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Hopefully, I am wrong and we did not wait too long. I was reacting to Friedman saying there are other players on the market now who are competition.
I am not going to pretend to know what the market is.
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02-27-2026, 12:33 PM
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#28863
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by howard_the_duck
Agreed. To me, for someone who's supposed to be playing a leadership role, it's a bad example to be setting.
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And probably why they need to part ways.
He's not the type of guy to lead a team through a re-build.
Weegar could be.
Naz isn't. Will be bad for him and bad for the team.
That's why I agree it's a matter of when, not if, and how much the return is. If it ends up being only a 2nd, it's probably still the best for all involved.
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02-27-2026, 12:35 PM
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#28864
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Nostradamus
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: London Ont.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Canada 02
trade players early - 'is that all you got? why didn't you wait until the deadline!'
wait until the deadline - 'waited too long'
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Rebuild over several years and trade away 8+ veterans....why aren't they rebuilding!
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02-27-2026, 12:36 PM
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#28865
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
The thing with Kadri is he needs to be competing for something to be a good player. We saw the same thing in the terrible season with Darryl. As they fell out of things, his play worsened. He's a competitive guy and when he's not competing for something, he's not very good. So for a competing team, that shouldn't matter because they are in the race.
Not saying that's a good thing. You would hope that his effort is consistent. But it seems well established that he's at his best when the stakes are high, and at his worst when they aren't.
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Kadri was great last night. Really F-ing up the tank.
I agree though, he's inconsistent if he's not competing, but that's honestly fair. He's a talented player, but a large part of his game is based on determination. It's hard to have the resolve to win every night when you're on a sinking ship.
Anyways, hoping he gets moved soon. He's costing us valuable tank points.
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02-27-2026, 12:45 PM
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#28866
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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People who say Kadri has less of a value this season seem to base that only on him and not the needs of other side of the deal
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02-27-2026, 12:46 PM
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#28867
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#1 Goaltender
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Kadri looked like a man competing for a trade last night.
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02-27-2026, 12:46 PM
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#28868
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Gotta think if one of the Avs or Wild land Trochek then whichever team misses out will be all in on Kadri.
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02-27-2026, 12:50 PM
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#28869
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigThief
Knees weak, arms are heavy.
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A hint that Detroit is in play for one of the Flames players?
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02-27-2026, 12:51 PM
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#28870
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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While I'm not huge on Kadri, for all people think about him having a unique skillset, plus being a centre, I don't know how he can't return a 1st, even if a lower 1st. Certainly that last year sucks on the contract but the expectation is the cap goes up and the effect of his last year becomes infinitesimal. Anyway, I just don't see how he can't return a 1st.
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02-27-2026, 12:52 PM
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#28871
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Lots of speculation that the Sharks might flip Kiefer Sherwood. Apparently they are far apart on contract talks.
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This trade never made sense to begin with, and I will be surprised if they get equivalent value in return for what they paid.
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02-27-2026, 12:53 PM
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#28872
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gvitaly
I don't agree with a several/many of Rhett's takes, but it's no skin off my back to argue this point for him, or see where I can find common ground.
Personally, I like what Conroy has done as a whole, and I really liked the last couple of trades of Markstrom and Andersson. So it's a wait and see for me, but if the Flames only get a 2nd for Kadri then I would be a bit disappointed.
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And Conroy (and every GM) will get things wrong.
He will set a price too high.
He will set a price too low.
He'll be patient when he should have pounced.
He'll pounce when he should have been patient.
But I personally believe he and his group have a plan and they stick to it. Hopefully they are right 60% of the time which I think would be elite.
Having an opinion that they should have done something sooner is fine.
Saying
"it sounds like we waited too long"
"Can't see us making a lot of trades now"
"Classic"
gets old.
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02-27-2026, 12:58 PM
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#28873
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
This trade never made sense to begin with, and I will be surprised if they get equivalent value in return for what they paid.
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Yup.
The Sharks paying those assets for a soon to be 31 year old 3rd line winger who was looking for to cash in on the biggest contract of his career, based on a bit of a PDO bender the last 18 months was always silly.
I feel like there is no way they get 2 2nds back for him now.
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02-27-2026, 01:01 PM
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#28874
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Scoring Winger
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Coleman has so many likes for a team
Won cups
2 way player
Great leader
Term left
Great lockroom guy
Competes
Can score goals
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02-27-2026, 01:11 PM
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#28875
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhett44
Hopefully, I am wrong and we did not wait too long. I was reacting to Friedman saying there are other players on the market now who are competition.
I am not going to pretend to know what the market is.
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There are pretty much ALWAYS "other players on the market now who are competition". Nothing has changed....except the needs of teams who are competing for playoff positions and the players that those out of same might wish to trade.
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02-27-2026, 01:12 PM
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#28876
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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The Quest stands upon the edge of a knife. Stray but a little, and it will fail, to the ruin of all. Yet hope remains while the Company is true. Go Flames Go!
Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory... lasts forever.
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02-27-2026, 01:17 PM
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#28877
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2024
Location: Victoria, BC
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Personally I'm not worried about Friedman and Dreger's comments, not yet atleast. When you're this close to the deadline things change very quickly.
I'm surprised more buyers haven't been active yet, there's alot of teams on the bubble right now who should be getting their new target it in asap.
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02-27-2026, 01:29 PM
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#28878
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Lots of speculation that the Sharks might flip Kiefer Sherwood. Apparently they are far apart on contract talks.
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I was watching him play last night and just sat there questioning...why of all players did SJ prioritize him?
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02-27-2026, 01:31 PM
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#28879
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
I was watching him play last night and just sat there questioning...why of all players did SJ prioritize him?
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He was acting like a baby having a hissy fit all night.
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02-27-2026, 01:32 PM
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#28880
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Franchise Player
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I am starting to think the flames are going to play themselves out of the bottom 3 over the next few games. For a few reasons:
-they are the most rested team in the league especially in terms of their highest impact players.
-Wolf looks dialled in and rested. That usually means he’s going look unbeatable for a few games.
-Kadri is on a hot streak and, when he is on one of those, he can carry a team. We’ve seen it with the flames and even with Colorado when McKinnon was injured.
-guys like Zary and Klapka have found their game.
Of course… a big trade could derail that but I could see the team leaning on Wolf to squeak out wins even after Kadri/Coleman are gone.
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