American Politics Thread: Orange is the new POTUS (Archive)

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by peter12

If we are talking about raw intelligence, I don't see how anyone could doubt that Donald Trump doesn't have at least above-average intelligence. Impossible to do what he has done with the median intelligence of the average voter.

That's the thing. If he is so smart, why do reality tv or run for president? It's like those people who run get-rich-quick schemes. If they were so good at getting rich, why would write books about it, instead of just devoting their time to, well, getting richer?

[FlamesAddiction]

I feel bad that I even have to ask, but that map isn't serious, is it?

[getbak]

Notice how the caption on that infographic is worded: "What each State Googled more frequently than any other State since the Election".

On first glance, it seems like it's showing the most-popular search term in each State, but it's really just a case of the people putting together the infographic coming up with 50 random phrases and then searching Google to determine which State saw that search term used more frequently than any other.

It doesn't mean that a lot of people in Alaska searched for "Kakistocracy". It just means that more people in Alaska searched for it than any of the other 49 States.

[calumniate]

Yeah, that's just good old fashioned spin! Something of a rarity these days

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by REDVAN

This is what I want people to stop doing. Unless you are backing up your opinion you shouldn't be allowed to say things like "he has a mental illness" etc.

Provide facts to back up your statements or you are no better than Trump and his.

For the past few weeks, psychologists have been speaking out, arguing that their profesional integrity, and patriotism, can't be silenced. The latest? A top psychotherapist affiliated with the esteemed Johns Hopkins University Medical School said Trump "is dangerously mentally ill and temperamentally incapable of being president.”

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...icle-1.2957688
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So if it is a matter of public record that a psychotherapist has said Trump is mentally ill, are we not allowed to us that as a a description for him? You can Google it yourself, their are plenty of experts weighing in on his mental stability, and I gotta say, it isn't good. Wait, can I say that? Please let me know if I can say that, grand arbiter of the Trump thread.

[Weitz]

How can a professional make such a claim without actually evaluating in person?

Edit: so he broke his ethics by publically saying such things? That seems like an odd thing to put much weight behind.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Yeah for the most part I do think that people are too quick to try to suggest that people have some sort of condition that explains their conduct... every time those "checklist to determine if someone is a psychopath" comes out in connection with some politician, it makes me wince. But in Trump's case, there is clearly something that's clearly not working properly in his brain. Either that, or he's deliberately behaving in the manner of a man with several screws loose for effect - I'm not sure which is worse.

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

It's remarkable how often people swing from one end of the political spectrum to the other - ardent ideologues of both the left and right share so many personality traits.

No zealot like a convert.

[FlameOn]

Trump now claims that he did not know he would be putting Bannon on the National Security Council when he signed is initial batch of Executive Orders. Worse yet, it seems the results of some of these executive orders, especially the ban on entry from some Muslim countries, was likely because Bannon did not fully brief Trump.

Amid signs that Donald Trump began his presidency with the same chaotic operation that marked his campaign, a report has claimed he was not even aware he was elevating Steve Bannon to a senior security post when he signed one of several executive orders.

Since Mr Trump’s inauguration on January 20, reports have emerged of a White House West Wing marked by confusion and unpreparedness - alongside intense turf battles being fought by his top officials.

One of the results of this has been a number of leaks from the White House, about the various maneuverings of such top officials, and their varying ascendance and descent.

Trump signed EO putting Bannon on National Security Council without realizing what he was signing. Now mad at Bannon https://nytimes.com/2017/02/05/us/po...-strategy.html

A report in in the New York Times, which paints a picture of chief-of-staff Reince Priebus trying to assert greater control, says he has set in place a set of checks and processes before new policies and Executive Orders are issued. This was done following the backlash over the haphazard and chaotic rollout of the order halting the refugee programme and suspending travel for people from seven Middle Eastern and North African countries.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7565191.html

Time, the Hill and NYT are calling on Trump to be impeached under the Emolument clause of the constitution. Polling Americans, over 40%+ now support this action.
http://time.com/4658633/impeach-donald-trump-congress/
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blo...inst-trump-now

[MissTeeks]

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

I mean, I'd actually agree that many of those should have received more coverage, particularly the ones outside of North America and Western Europe. But man, the Paris attacks are on that list. Brussels is on it. San Bernadino is on that list. So is the attack on Parliament. I feel like those all got just a little bit of coverage.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Weitz

How can a professional make such a claim without actually evaluating in person?

Ethically, this is a no-no. But it is possible to observe someone in the public sphere and get a pretty good read on the state of their mental health based on their behaviors. You know, how can an engineer observe a bridge and suggest it is in need of repair? How can a mechanic look at the tread wear on a car and have a good idea there is something wrong? How can a physician observe someone across a table from them and suggest they may have an illness that should be treated? If you know what you are looking for, you can tell when something is wrong.

Trump displays a ton of issues that leads even those who are not clinicians to come to a conclusion he's got a personality disorder. A trained and experienced clinician is able to make a pretty good call just by observing someone for a couple hours. Trump has been putting his behaviors out there for months and months. That's a pretty substantial amount of behavior to observe to at least recommend a full workup and evaluation. Suggesting Trump has a narcissistic personality disorder is a no-brainer.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

I mean, I'd actually agree that many of those should have received more coverage, particularly the ones outside of North America and Western Europe. But man, the Paris attacks are on that list. Brussels is on it. San Bernadino is on that list. So is the attack on Parliament. I feel like those all got just a little bit of coverage.

Where is Bowling Green? Media refuses to cover it!!

[Senator Clay Davis]

Of course they misspelled San Bernardino, because why get little things like that right when you're trying to make a ridiculously bad point? Also my favorite attacker is US PERSON, though should have been US AMERICAN.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Of course they misspelled San Bernardino, because why get little things like that right when you're trying to make a ridiculously bad point? Also my favorite attacker is US PERSON, though should have been US AMERICAN.

Hah, I've been spelling it wrong this entire time as well.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Also ATTACKER is spelled wrong like five different ways. Did anyone edit this before it went out?

[Izzle]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Also ATTACKER is spelled wrong like five different ways. Did anyone edit this before it went out?

Attacker in cyrillic is Attakar.

I'm not saying... I'm just saying.

[MissTeeks]

Ha:

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...-spicer-234715

[Senator Clay Davis]

^Another reason to get Rosie as Bannon.

[Izzle]

Rosie as Bannon... Baldwin as dump...

Now kiss

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Might have to re-cast Trump... just do the whole white house staff in drag. Casting possibilities?