2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

Retaining 32% of his contract makes him movable for a return.

You aren't moving him at full freight, so this hypothetical value for retention goes out the window.

You retain and get something or keep at full freight and either don't move him or get next to nothing.

I would hope retaining a full year of his cap hit (I am estimating it would be with 32% * 3 + remainder of this year's season) would net us more than just a 2nd and a B prospect. Otherwise, why even bother? If we're using a retention spot for 3.25 seasons, it's not worth a 2nd and a B prospect. He's still movable if we take on cap space in return. Would rather take on a 1-3 year contract than retain on Kadri. At least with the cap hit of another player we can try and play him to the point where he has value again. Retention doesn't do that.

[TheIronMaiden]

What changed with respect to the chatter that Coleman wasn't going to play another game for the Flames?

[Reign of Fire]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

What changed with respect to the chatter that Coleman wasn't going to play another game for the Flames?

I have been wondering the same thing


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[stemit14]

I’m not a fan of waiting to the offseason for a Kadri trade. The pressure on buyers is at its lowest point which leads to the team holding onto him until the TDL next year because teams keep lowballing. We see it every year. Teams are reluctant to trade 1st round picks in July because they want to see how their season goes.

[DJones]

Ya retaining a third of his contract for a 2nd is crazy. 100% keep him in that scenario.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I would hope retaining a full year of his cap hit (I am estimating it would be with 32% * 3 + remainder of this year's season) would net us more than just a 2nd and a B prospect. Otherwise, why even bother? If we're using a retention spot for 3.25 seasons, it's not worth a 2nd and a B prospect. He's still movable if we take on cap space in return. Would rather take on a 1-3 year contract than retain on Kadri. At least with the cap hit of another player we can try and play him to the point where he has value again. Retention doesn't do that.

Lots of reasons to still do it.

1) Even if we feel the return is depressed based on this season's play, you're still getting assets back

2) It helps to solidify this year's pick (and next year's), which is a big part of the asset equation

3) You're on a slippery slope of Kadri being disgruntled, if he's not already. So, moving him and you're doing well by the player and the room

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

Lots of reasons to still do it.

1) Even if we feel the return is depressed based on this season's play, you're still getting assets back

2) It helps to solidify this year's pick (and next year's), which is a big part of the asset equation

3) You're on a slippery slope of Kadri being disgruntled, if he's not already. So, moving him and you're doing well by the player and the room

The cap is going up significantly. If it was a stagnant cap (like it was for a long time due to covid) I would be leaning your direction. If the contending team cannot fit Kadri in their lineup, then they're not a good GM to begin with. I would much rather move Kadri for a cap dump and assets and use that last retention spot on Coleman, who should fetch us a 1st if we retain 50%.

If a GM wants retention so badly on Kadri, then this is an issue that needs to be settled on July 1 when our retention slots all return (assuming Coleman is used at or before the TDL).

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

What changed with respect to the chatter that Coleman wasn't going to play another game for the Flames?

Don't believe everything posted on the internet.

[Bonded]

Maybe the teams that met the price aren’t on Coleman’s trade list

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

What changed with respect to the chatter that Coleman wasn't going to play another game for the Flames?

Nothing changed for the Flames or Coleman. Chatter is just that.

[howard_the_duck]

It all hinges on Coleman. I think he can be moved full freight, but again if you're dealing with top cup contenders most of them are operating at or near the cap and would need some cap relief most likely.

Push come to shove, I'm actually in the camp that you use your retention slot now on Kadri and not Coleman, because his return is the most likely to depreciate, and shift to moving Coleman next year if need be.

I think he could be moved for a similar return as a rental especially if he can be moved with retention.

[Burning Beard]

People want trades damn it! Even if they have to give away Kadri and pay 7.5 million to do so! Can't Conroy tell the fanbase is impatient?

I am bored at work though so all jokes aside come on Conroy... Get something done for me, the little guy.

[1qqaaz]

Kadri's trade value is likely going to decrease. Trade him and get it overwith.
No point in keeping players who have one foot out the door, especially when it's reflected in their play.

The Flames will likely get more value from retaining on Kadri than they would on Coleman.

They shouldn't be worried about 2.75 being on the books in 2 years when the cap is higher.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

What changed with respect to the chatter that Coleman wasn't going to play another game for the Flames?

IMO more teams/offers are involved now...Flames want to make the best decision possible

Also, Coleman wants to play and doesn't want to sit...don't shoot the messenger

[browntrout]

The flames are going to have to retain on Kadri, because it's a bad contract, the thought process that retaining will garner a great return because of the amount of money retained is misguided IMO. A player at his age should have 1 year left, not 3. He does not want to be here, cut bait, get what the market dictates and move on.

Retaining is not going to cripple this teams cap management, they can afford it easily. They have a plethora of draft picks with more to come (Coleman, White Cloud??) in addition to some promising prospects.

I would like a 1st round pick for the guy, but whatever, if it's a second, so be it, seems like squabbling over nothing.

If a team wants him, trade him before the deadline, going into next season with this headache is a distraction, needs to be much more focus on developing the younger players, and that starts now

[Circa89]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

I think retaining for 3 years on Kadri is a rough ask. We will need the retention slots probably. Better to take back a contract.

Next year we would have 2 of 3 rentention slots available , who else could we possibly retain on? we could offer 85% retention on Huberdeau and he is still untradable. I think if we retain on Kadri will will be fine.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by Circa89

Next year we would have 2 of 3 rentention slots available , who else could we possibly retain on? we could offer 85% retention on Huberdeau and he is still untradable. I think if we retain on Kadri will will be fine.

Huberdeau is probably out all of next season too so it's not likely a concern.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Don't believe everything posted on the internet.

Source? Otherwise, I don't believe this.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by D as in David

Source? Otherwise, I don't believe this.

[the-rasta-masta]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

Huberdeau is probably out all of next season too so it's not likely a concern.

Did I miss something? Thought he was going to be ready by training camp.