2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[dammage79]

Like, if they could acquire Cody Glass for a 2nd (NSH just claimed J-A-D so potentially Glass is available), I'm all for it.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by 868904

I'd disagree about Horvat being a superior asset at that time; I waivered both ways though. Ultimately, I think Bo Horvat was an 18 year old draft pick with "skating issues". He was a top 10 pick, but he hadn't put up a 27 goal and 56 point season and played 3 NHL seasons at that point like Mercer has. Horvat, at that time, was still unknown. You can't look at what Horvat has done since being drafted and include that in his value.

Yeah, Mercer is for sure the more proven asset (at time of trade), but for the same reason he's not going to be a really cheap asset. Let's fast forward to the offseason for a sec... what does a longterm deal for Mercer cost? 6M per? It's an important part of the equation.

[DropIt]

Originally Posted by JurassicTunga12

Apparently Chris Johnson said the devils are gonna take another run at markstrom before the deadline.

Maybe Maloney can mediate the trade call this time.

I was annoyed he shut the deal down the first time around, but now im wondering if the return was so vad he had to step in

[traptor]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I don't know, if it's for the right player, I definitely see the Flames spending some draft capital to get a player. I've said it since the Lindholm trade.

Hypothetically, if they targeted and could acquire a player of Zegras ilk, young, cost controlled center (we all know by now what conny wants) then why not.

If we knew zegras wouod stay longterm I'd do it.

He's trending to be nylander. We could really use a nylander, especially if we're not committing to a rebuild

[Paulie Walnuts]

Or just lock Maloney in the basement and take away his phone.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Ryan Leslie was on 960 this morning saying that all the draft picks the Flames have acquired in the last 2 months are like currency and that the Flames could use them to acquire a player.

It's absolutely the last thing I want to see because you aren't getting any serious long-term piece that can help you win now for a group of late 1st round picks.

I’m fine if that player is Tij Iginla.

[memphusk]

Huh. Who would think that a 34 year old goalie who couldn't stop the beachball last year is worth so much. Just sell him for whatever. Let Wolf and Vladar run the pipes.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Southern_Canuck

Well... I thought the exact same way when the Canucks traded Bo Horvat, and then subsequently gave up that acquired NYI 1st plus their own 2nd for Hronek.

But Hronek is still only 26, and has fit in very well - perhaps better (and more immediate) than the 1st and 2nd might ever have been?

S_C

How good would Hronek look if he wasn't playing with Quinn Hughes?

Beyond that, the Hronek trade worked for the Canucks because they already had a core of elite young pieces - Hughes, Pettersson, and Demko. Hronek supplements them.

If the Flames try to do that when they haven't even drafted their next star player, it will be a colossal mistake.

[bax]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Like, if they could acquire Cody Glass for a 2nd (NSH just claimed J-A-D so potentially Glass is available), I'm all for it.

A 2nd for a 25 year old with 10 points this year?

Oof I really hope Conroy isn’t thinking that way.

Guys, it’s never been more clear. The Flames need to build through the draft. No shortcuts. Especially not for dime a dozen players like Glass.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

I’m fine if that player is Tij Iginla.

He was talking about trading the 1st round picks.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

He was talking about trading the 1st round picks.

I know.

And I’m talking about trading up.

[Southside403]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Or just lock Maloney in the basement and take away his phone.

And bean

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

How good would Hronek look if he wasn't playing with Quinn Hughes?

Beyond that, the Hronek trade worked for the Canucks because they already had a core of elite young pieces - Hughes, Pettersson, and Demko. Hronek supplements them.

If the Flames try to do that when they haven't even drafted their next star player, it will be a colossal mistake.

It's even less likely they draft a star player with a late pick...If they can get a very good youngish player with a late 1st you do it. That asset becomes part of the organization and may even be traded at a future deadline or draft.

The Flames need some good players if they want to sell tickets, jerseys, hope, ect. This isn't the Southern US where you can just be terrible for years with 4000 fans and not be worried about the stability of the franchise.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by FlamesFan1000

Guess it means Servalli was right, or his flames source is legit. Maloney supposedly nixing the trade and now this? How delusional is our front office?

Yeah. Hopefully it isn’t true but fits Edwards MO

[Ferarri]

Originally Posted by Southside403

And bean

And Murray

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

I know.

And I’m talking about trading up.

People are overestimating where Iginla will go this year. If Calgary is top ten, to get Iginla they trade down.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by dino7c

It's even less likely they draft a star player with a late pick...If they can get a very good youngish player with a late 1st you do it. That asset becomes part of the organization and may even be traded at a future deadline or draft.

The Flames need some good players if they want to sell tickets, jerseys, hope, ect. This isn't the Southern US where you can just be terrible for years with 4000 fans and not have any issues.

Is it less likely? The Flames drafted the last two star players that played for this team.

If another team is giving up a youngish player with the potential to have an impact today and in the future, they must not think that highly of him.

The only consistent way to acquire elite talent, especially for Canadian hockey teams, is through the draft. That is unquestionable at this point. Maybe it's only a 5-10% chance that a late 1st round pick turns into a star, but that's exactly why the Flames need to make more draft picks and higher draft picks.

This team needs to draft more than any other team over the next three years. They need to lean into it.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Is it less likely? The Flames drafted the last two star players that played for this team.

If another team is giving up a youngish player with the potential to have an impact today and in the future, they must not think that highly of him.

The only consistent way to acquire elite talent, especially for Canadian hockey teams, is through the draft. That is unquestionable at this point. Maybe it's only a 5-10% chance that a late 1st round pick turns into a star, but that's exactly why the Flames need to make more draft picks and higher draft picks.

This team needs to draft more than any other team over the next three years. They need to lean into it.

TBF he said "with a late pick". So Gaudreau, sure (as late as they come) but not Tkachuk, who was 5th and should have been 2nd. And with Gaudreau, pretty much any team has those kind of miracle picks. The Flames have several.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

People are overestimating where Iginla will go this year. If Calgary is top ten, to get Iginla they trade down.

I mean based on quite a few rankings now he’s pretty safely top 12. Flames picking him at 8 or 9 isn’t really a reach at this point. And if they reach a couple spots rather than adding a 4th to
move down with the risk of him being gone, I wouldn’t be upset. I’m sure the red wings could’ve dropped a couple and still got Seider but they didn’t mess around. Just took their guy and said screw the “consensus rankings”

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

I mean based on quite a few rankings now he’s pretty safely top 12. Flames picking him at 8 or 9 isn’t really a reach at this point

I've seen one outlier at 9 and the rest 13 or higher.