Wow. PP is the bestest xmas present the Libs could ever ask for.
Genius move by Carney not to delay the deplorable from re-entering Parliament after the by-election.
The best was that he took a question about his confidence about the upcoming leadership review and answered with his smug response. hahahaha Of course that aged pretty well! lol
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LOL. Michael Ma being introduced to rock star applause at the Liberal Xmas party right now! hahaha
Carney just roasting the Cons right now. Calling out the 2 former Cons saying they are going to have a much better Xmas with us, than Xmas with the Kranks! lol
hmmm Carney kind of suggesting that there might be more floor crossings.
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PP and the Cons just completely falling apart at this point. Ya love to see it. These dips***s deserve all of this for continuing to cater to the deplorable Maple MAGA lunatics.
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We’re also around the year anniversary of Con supporters strutting around talking about hilarious things like the Liberals losing party status while people warned them a leadership change could ruin their heir to the throne fantasy.
And here we are, many of those same people rightly gone quiet or pulling the “I don’t even know her” Mean Girl schtick as they awkwardly stuff their MAGA hat in their backpack and go back to saying “Me? Socially Liberal, fiscally Conservative, actually” while the Cons slowly bleed out.
It’s just generally very funny and satisfying.
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Pierre posting saying that Ma was elected as a Conservative so crossing is betraying the voters is ####ing rich as the voters also picked Damien Kurek to represent them
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Pierre posting saying that he was elected as a Conservative so crossing is betraying the voters is ####ing rich as the voters also picked Damien Kurek to represent them
Quite frankly, and without much hyperbole, this iteration of the Liberals essentially are the Conservatives.
Your Grand-Pappy's Conservatives have lost their collective minds and gone coocoo for cocoa puffs.
Its sort of the same shift we're seeing in Alberta where the NDP used to be the hardcore lunatic fringe lefties are now more or less in the middle and the 'slightly right' Conservatives have gone full Wile E. Coyote with rockets strapped to their asses.
And now I must shower because I loathe using the linear political spectrum. Its just so unrealistically simplistic.
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Quite frankly, and without much hyperbole, this iteration of the Liberals essentially are the Conservatives.
Maybe, but if the Liberals are essentially Conservatives, then they are at the very least Conservatives without the crazies, which is something A LOT of Canadians can get behind.
As a centre-left person, I am totally okay with a tack to the political centre. I find some of the excesses of progressivism irksome, so I have no problem with this development.
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Right now, I am happy.
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Quite frankly, and without much hyperbole, this iteration of the Liberals essentially are the Conservatives.
I'd say they're more approaching unicorn status, being fiscal conservatives and social liberals. Virtually everyone I've talked to over the last 20 years have said that's the platform they'd want from any federal government, so if Carney can follow through on it he might be looking at some record approval levels. If he can somehow get rid of that stupid gun buyback money pit he'll be nearly untouchable
I'd say they're more approaching unicorn status, being fiscal conservatives and social liberals. Virtually everyone I've talked to over the last 20 years have said that's the platform they'd want from any federal government, so if Carney can follow through on it he might be looking at some record approval levels. If he can somehow get rid of that stupid gun buyback money pit he'll be nearly untouchable
Apparently we are told by some of the more fringe posters here that fiscal conservatives while socially liberal cannot exist. That the radical center is a myth. People wishing for such to occur (from any party) are really just MAGA hat wearers because they didn't accept the trainwreck from a Trudeau-Singh led coalition.
A year ago we had a finance minister quit due to a PM that wouldn't listen (while herself claiming Canadians are experiencing a "vibecession" no less and it's all in their heads), a GST holiday while running crippling deficits, a carbon tax that was set to rise to 95$ per tonne despite a cost of living crisis.
Yet here we are, a year after, and you have activist lunatics like Guillbault ragequit over a memorandum signed with Alberta. Carbon tax is gone. Provinces singing harmoniously together where a PM is actively listening versus telling them how to run their province. Bill C-69 may be significantly altered or removed. Infrastructure spending plan (versus being told we no longer need new roads). Austerity measures with a budget that doesn't treat Canadians like children. Significant cutting of public service. All of this without ideologically pandering and preaching while doing it and telling Canadians how they should feel.
If you were to ask me that we get all of this a year ago in the future, especially considering what's happening down south, I'd be ecstatic. And I am ecstatic today.
That we ended up getting it from Carney / Liberals instead of the CPC doesn't matter to me, especially knowing that had the CPC win under Poilievre, we would have gotten some really boneheaded grifts along with several of these. Heck, Carney seems to be disenchanted with the waste that is the ideotic gun buyback program, and I expect it will die a quiet death sometime soon.
And that folks come in the thread to point and laugh about this frankly salvaged situation for most Canadians while their own party that best matches their views and support is down to 6% in the polls and fall into complete obscurity and relevance is the icing on the cake.
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Apparently we are told by some of the more fringe posters here that fiscal conservatives while socially liberal cannot exist. That the radical center is a myth. People wishing for such to occur (from any party) are really just MAGA hat wearers because they didn't accept the trainwreck from a Trudeau-Singh led coalition.
A year ago we had a finance minister quit due to a PM that wouldn't listen to Canadians plea, a GST holiday while running crippling deficits, a carbon tax that was set to rise to 95$ per tonne despite a cost of living crisis.
Yet here we are, a year after, and you have activist lunatics like Guillbault ragequit over a memorandum signed with Alberta. Carbon tax is gone. Provinces singing harmoniously together where a PM is actively listening versus telling them how to run their province. Bill C-69 may be significantly altered or removed. Infrastructure spending plan (versus being told we no longer need new roads). Austerity measures with a budget that doesn't treat Canadians like children. Significant cutting of public service. All of this without ideologically pandering and preaching while doing it and telling Canadians how they should feel.
If you were to ask me that we get all of this a year ago in the future, especially considering what's happening down south, I'd be ecstatic. And I am ecstatic today.
That we ended up getting it from Carney / Liberals instead of the CPC doesn't matter to me, especially knowing that had the CPC win under Poilievre, we would have gotten some really boneheaded grifts along with several of these. Heck, Carney seems to be disenchanted with the waste that is the ideotic gun buyback program, and I expect it will die a quiet death sometime soon.
And that folks come in the thread to point and laugh about this frankly salvaged situation for most Canadians while their own party that best matches their views and support is down to 6% in the polls and fall into complete obscurity and relevance is the icing on the cake.
Thanks for the Friday morning laugh, that was a good one you hid in there.
Thanks for the Friday morning laugh, that was a good one you hid in there.
Refering to this. We actually have a PM who listens now (let's not pretend that the past grifts under Trudeau didn't happen). .
So maybe Eby and Smith aren't going to be that chummy right now, but it's the best we've had in a long time. It was obviously a little hyperbole that we are at the level of singing at a campfire but Ford did refer to Carney as Santa Claus .
Apparently we are told by some of the more fringe posters here that fiscal conservatives while socially liberal cannot exist. That the radical center is a myth. People wishing for such to occur (from any party) are really just MAGA hat wearers because they didn't accept the trainwreck from a Trudeau-Singh led coalition.
A year ago we had a finance minister quit due to a PM that wouldn't listen (while herself claiming Canadians are experiencing a "vibecession" no less and it's all in their heads), a GST holiday while running crippling deficits, a carbon tax that was set to rise to 95$ per tonne despite a cost of living crisis.
Yet here we are, a year after, and you have activist lunatics like Guillbault ragequit over a memorandum signed with Alberta. Carbon tax is gone. Provinces singing harmoniously together where a PM is actively listening versus telling them how to run their province. Bill C-69 may be significantly altered or removed. Infrastructure spending plan (versus being told we no longer need new roads). Austerity measures with a budget that doesn't treat Canadians like children. Significant cutting of public service. All of this without ideologically pandering and preaching while doing it and telling Canadians how they should feel.
If you were to ask me that we get all of this a year ago in the future, especially considering what's happening down south, I'd be ecstatic. And I am ecstatic today.
That we ended up getting it from Carney / Liberals instead of the CPC doesn't matter to me, especially knowing that had the CPC win under Poilievre, we would have gotten some really boneheaded grifts along with several of these. Heck, Carney seems to be disenchanted with the waste that is the ideotic gun buyback program, and I expect it will die a quiet death sometime soon.
And that folks come in the thread to point and laugh about this frankly salvaged situation for most Canadians while their own party that best matches their views and support is down to 6% in the polls and fall into complete obscurity and relevance is the icing on the cake.
Weren’t you calling people delusional and all sorts of other names and accusing them of pushing a made up narrative a year ago when those people accurately predicted a Trudeau resignation and Carney takeover would severely hurt the Cons with an outside chance of putting a Liberal minority back on the table?
I wouldn’t want to play the “some people said” game if I were you lol.
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Apparently we are told by some of the more fringe posters here that fiscal conservatives while socially liberal cannot exist. That the radical center is a myth. People wishing for such to occur (from any party) are really just MAGA hat wearers because they didn't accept the trainwreck from a Trudeau-Singh led coalition.
A year ago we had a finance minister quit due to a PM that wouldn't listen (while herself claiming Canadians are experiencing a "vibecession" no less and it's all in their heads), a GST holiday while running crippling deficits, a carbon tax that was set to rise to 95$ per tonne despite a cost of living crisis.
Yet here we are, a year after, and you have activist lunatics like Guillbault ragequit over a memorandum signed with Alberta. Carbon tax is gone. Provinces singing harmoniously together where a PM is actively listening versus telling them how to run their province. Bill C-69 may be significantly altered or removed. Infrastructure spending plan (versus being told we no longer need new roads). Austerity measures with a budget that doesn't treat Canadians like children. Significant cutting of public service. All of this without ideologically pandering and preaching while doing it and telling Canadians how they should feel.
If you were to ask me that we get all of this a year ago in the future, especially considering what's happening down south, I'd be ecstatic. And I am ecstatic today.
That we ended up getting it from Carney / Liberals instead of the CPC doesn't matter to me, especially knowing that had the CPC win under Poilievre, we would have gotten some really boneheaded grifts along with several of these. Heck, Carney seems to be disenchanted with the waste that is the ideotic gun buyback program, and I expect it will die a quiet death sometime soon.
And that folks come in the thread to point and laugh about this frankly salvaged situation for most Canadians while their own party that best matches their views and support is down to 6% in the polls and fall into complete obscurity and relevance is the icing on the cake.
The funny thing is, polling would suggest that you're dead wrong. What you're saying might be true for you, but it doesn't seem to hold true for many other people.
Carney is basically giving moderate Conservatives everything they could hope for in a government: fiscal conservatism without falling into culture war crap. So if what you're saying is correct, I would expect to see movement towards the Liberals from the Conservatives as the more moderate Conservatives realize that Carney's Liberals are far more in line with their beliefs than Poilievre's Conservatives are.
But that hasn't happened at all. Conservative support is basically the same as it was in the election and the Liberals are only leading because traditional NDP voters have shifted to them, likely out of distaste for a potential Conservative government.
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