06-16-2025, 07:55 PM
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#2821
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Singapore
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cral12
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He's got Cootes-Kindel-Reschny at 15, 16, 17. There's not much separating those three centres in terms of size.
You do wonder if the Flames would favour Kindel given their familiarity and number of viewings? Probably most of the Flames scouts have seen him play in person, when they've been in Calgary for meetings and whatnot. And the Hanlon promotion might suggest Conroy prefers the known and familiar to the unknown.
Then again, Flames haven't drafted a Hitman in a decade (Karnaukhov), and before that it had been 15 years, back when the draft was last in Calgary (Kraun, Davis). Edmonton and Vancouver have each drafted as many Hitmen as the Flames have.
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06-16-2025, 08:28 PM
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#2822
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by icarus
He's got Cootes-Kindel-Reschny at 15, 16, 17. There's not much separating those three centres in terms of size.
You do wonder if the Flames would favour Kindel given their familiarity and number of viewings? Probably most of the Flames scouts have seen him play in person, when they've been in Calgary for meetings and whatnot. And the Hanlon promotion might suggest Conroy prefers the known and familiar to the unknown.
Then again, Flames haven't drafted a Hitman in a decade (Karnaukhov), and before that it had been 15 years, back when the draft was last in Calgary (Kraun, Davis). Edmonton and Vancouver have each drafted as many Hitmen as the Flames have.
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I would be so disappointed if we lost out on all 3 of those players at our pick.
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06-16-2025, 09:41 PM
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#2823
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
I would be so disappointed if we lost out on all 3 of those players at our pick.
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I would not be shocked if all 3 are available at our pick and if all 3 are still available after our pick.
PTSD maybe but these guys read a lot like Morgan klimchuk did. Tweener centers that do a lot of things well but nothing exceptionally well.
I did hear an interview that said cootes plays like his hair is on fire which hit my attention. But I hope we draft a player with a more projectable frame than any of these 3. If upside is middle six you are probably looking at 3rd line. Need to do better than that with our first.
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06-16-2025, 11:30 PM
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#2824
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Had a lot of fun talking to Byron Bader tonight about the 2025 draft. Had some weird tech issues early on so don't mind the flashing in the first few minutes, it does go away. Enjoy (especially if you're a huge nerd)
https://www.youtube.com/live/2AQDRXV...w3Fl6uXMnzbGwx
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06-17-2025, 03:29 AM
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#2825
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Had a lot of fun talking to Byron Bader tonight about the 2025 draft. Had some weird tech issues early on so don't mind the flashing in the first few minutes, it does go away. Enjoy (especially if you're a huge nerd)
https://www.youtube.com/live/2AQDRXV...w3Fl6uXMnzbGwx
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Excellent work, Scorp! Very entertaining!
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06-17-2025, 03:50 AM
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#2826
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cral12
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Bukala loves to stir it and try to stand out, Desnoyers to #2, Frondell to #6
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06-17-2025, 04:11 AM
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#2827
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Desnoyers at 2 obviously an outlier, but Frondell at 6 doesn't really stand out, no? Wheeler has him at 6, Pronman has him at 6, FC has him at 7. From what I've seen, there seems to be a somewhat consensus second tier with Hagens, Desnoyers, Frondell and Martone from 3 to 6, in whatever order (probably have seen every possible iteration by now lol).
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06-17-2025, 07:09 AM
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#2828
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iloveicedhockey
I'm might have missed it (either in this thread or in the 2024 one) but did you ever compare the consensus you had last year to the actual position picked, Bingo? I did do a quick search but could only see a flames specific comparison, not first round for all.
I'm just trying to find some hope that someone will drop and we'll all be impressed with who we got at 18.
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Just had a look at the 2024 version.
Consensus had Parekh as the first player in their first pick range, Basha in the 2nd 1st range, and both Mews and Gridin in the first 2nd round pick range.
Code:
1 M Celebrini C 1.00
2 Ivan Demidov RW 2.59
3 A Levshunov D 4.59
4 Zeev Buium D 5.91
5 C Lindstrom C 7.05
6 Sam Dickinson D 7.64
7 Zayne Parekh D 7.77
8 Berkly Catton C 8.00
9 Tij Iginla C 8.50
10 Anton Silayev D 9.50
11 Konsta Helenius C 10.82
12 Cole Eiserman LW 11.41
13 C Yakemchuk D 13.36
14 Brand-Nygard RW 14.86
15 B Sennecke RW 15.45
16 Liam Greentree RW 17.64
17 I Chernyshov LW 18.57
18 Trevor Connelly LW 18.64
19 Michael Hage C 18.82
20 Adam Jiricek D 19.60
21 Sacha Boisvert C 24.71
22 N Artamonov LW 27.16
23 Stian Solberg D 27.38
24 Emil Hemming F 27.44
25 Jett Luchanko C 27.48
26 Andrew Basha LW 27.60
27 Ryder Ritchie RW 29.36
28 Terik Parascak RW 29.70
29 E.J. Emery D 30.71
30 Alfons Freij D 34.06
31 Teddy Stiga F 34.53
32 Yegor Surin F 35.33
33 Cole Beaudoin C 36.06
34 L Pettersson 36.87
35 S Wallenius 38.78
36 M Vanacker 39.17
37 Charlie Elick D 39.47
38 Dom Badinka 40.00
39 Henry Mews D 40.27
40 Aron Kiviharju D 41.06
41 J Miettinen 41.67
42 Matvei Gridin F 41.75
43 Linus Eriksson F 41.88
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06-17-2025, 07:30 AM
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#2829
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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2025 update ...
Code:
1 M Schaefer D 1.17
2 Michael Misa C 2.11
3 James Hagens C 4.00
4 Porter Martone RW 4.39
5 Anton Frondell C 5.33
6 C Desnoyers C 6.17
7 Victor Eklund LW 8.50
8 Jake O'Brien C 9.39
9 Radim Mrtka D 11.28
10 Jackson Smith D 11.61
11 Brady Martin C 11.67
12 Roger McQueen C 11.83
13 Carter Bear C 14.11
14 K Aitcheson D 16.94
15 Braeden Cootes C 17.82
16 J Carbonneau RW 18.00
17 Lynden Lakovic LW 18.11
18 Cole Reschny C 20.22
19 Malcolm Spence LW 20.71
20 Logan Hensler D 20.78
21 Cameron Reid D 21.12
22 Benjamin Kindel RW 21.83
23 Cullen Potter C 23.06
24 J Ravensbergen G 26.33
25 Jack Nesbitt C 26.94
26 Cam Schmidt RW 27.38
27 Bill Zonnon Lw 27.76
28 Blake Fiddler D 27.88
29 S Boumedienne D 28.67
30 Ivan Ryabkin C 30.20
31 Milton Gästrin C 30.41
32 Jack Murtagh C 32.94
33 William Moore C 33.15
34 J Ihs-Wozniak RW 34.07
35 Cole McKinney C 35.93
36 H Brzustewicz D 36.25
37 Shane Vansaghi C 37.27
38 Ryker Lee RW 37.85
39 Eric Nilson C 38.62
40 Jack Ivankovic G 40.17
41 William Horcoff C 41.08
42 Adam Benák C 41.10
43 Kurban Limatov D 43.18
44 Eddie Genborg LW 45.42
45 A Zharovsky RW 46.00
46 Haoxi Wang D 49.75
47 Nathan Behm LW 49.82
48 Ethan Czata C 52.60
49 Luca Romano C 52.91
50 V Nestrasil RW 53.46
51 C Trethewey D 56.31
52 Conrad Fondrk C 57.67
53 Benjamin Kevan RW 57.69
54 Owen Conrad D 58.13
55 Vojtech Cihar LW 58.67
56 Matthew Gard C 59.55
57 P Andreyanov G 59.78
58 L.J. Mooney RW 60.30
59 K Epperson LW 60.89
60 Michal Pradel G 63.86
61 Carter Amico D 65.33
62 A Medvedev G 65.89
63 Alex Huang D 65.89
64 D Prokhorov RW 65.91
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06-17-2025, 08:10 AM
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#2830
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Franchise Player
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New full draft mock from Pronman.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/642...ounds-pronman/
Flames get:
18- Reschny
31 - Gastrin
54 - Schmidt
80 - Liam Pettersson (D)
144 - Tinus Luc Koblar (great pick if only for the name!)
175 - Owen Griffin
208 - Andreas Straka
I'd be pretty happy with that.
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06-17-2025, 08:14 AM
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#2831
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Franchise Player
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If the Flames end up with one of Kindel or Reschny in this draft, I would be very happy.
Both would be unreal.
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06-17-2025, 08:19 AM
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#2832
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: In my office...is it 5:00 yet???
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Had the opportunity to play a summer league game against Nathan Behn last week. I can tell you one thing, he’s really really good………compared to me lol.
Anyone have a better scouting report on this Calgary kid?
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06-17-2025, 08:30 AM
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#2833
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
New full draft mock from Pronman.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/642...ounds-pronman/
Flames get:
18- Reschny
31 - Gastrin
54 - Schmidt
80 - Liam Pettersson (D)
144 - Tinus Luc Koblar (great pick if only for the name!)
175 - Owen Griffin
208 - Andreas Straka
I'd be pretty happy with that.
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Available when he has the Flames taking Reschny ...
Braeden Cootes
Cole Reschny
Malcolm Spence
Logan Hensler
Cameron Reid
Benjamin Kindel
Cullen Potter
Joshua Ravensbergen
Cameron Schmidt
Bill Zonnon
Blake Fiddler
Sascha Boumedienne
Ivan Ryabkin
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06-17-2025, 09:04 AM
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#2834
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HitterD
Had the opportunity to play a summer league game against Nathan Behn last week. I can tell you one thing, he’s really really good………compared to me lol.
Anyone have a better scouting report on this Calgary kid?
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I'm no scout. Calgary kid played Glenlake 2007 Powerhouse with Jackson Smith. Grandpa is a very prominent Plastic Surgeon in Calgary, mom is a power skating instructor. Would train in Florida in the summers with Darryl Belfry. He is weirdly good. I remember evaluating him year after year and wondering what all the hype was about because he doesn't look amazing at anything but by the end of the game he'd have 8 points. Hands are ridiculous and smart player. Almost like a Luc Robitaille or Kristian Huselius.
I don't think he will put a team on his back like Mark Messier ever but he will put up points.
I'm usually terrible at predicting how good these players will be so take above with a grain assault.
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06-17-2025, 10:36 AM
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#2835
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First Line Centre
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From Twitter this am
Flyers GM Danny Briere on potential trade chatter leading into the NHL Draft: "It feels like everybody's trying to move up at the moment. We've said from the beginning we'd like to try to move up if it was possible. But right now, there's just not a lot of options there."
https://x.com/NHLAdamK/status/193501...7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Better hope something nice falls to 18 or we drop down further and take some wild swings. Trading up could be difficult (fortunately, imho).
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06-17-2025, 10:48 AM
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#2836
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Had a lot of fun talking to Byron Bader tonight about the 2025 draft. Had some weird tech issues early on so don't mind the flashing in the first few minutes, it does go away. Enjoy (especially if you're a huge nerd)
https://www.youtube.com/live/2AQDRXV...w3Fl6uXMnzbGwx
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Loved watching that, thanks Scorp.
I'm surprised with the size talk that Rossi didn't get briefly talked about. Also, with the "one in a million" chance of drafting 3 superstars in one draft by the same team being super low, I totally forgot about Duchene, ROR, and Barrie all being drafted in the same draft. I think it's safe to say that only happens once a decade, and the Stars got that done in 2017 with Heiskanen, Oettinger, and Robertson.
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06-17-2025, 10:55 AM
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#2837
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: In my office...is it 5:00 yet???
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
Loved watching that, thanks Scorp.
I'm surprised with the size talk that Rossi didn't get briefly talked about. Also, with the "one in a million" chance of drafting 3 superstars in one draft by the same team being super low, I totally forgot about Duchene, ROR, and Barrie all being drafted in the same draft. I think it's safe to say that only happens once a decade, and the Stars got that done in 2017 with Heiskanen, Oettinger, and Robertson.
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I agree that it’s rare, but it’s worth noting that the flames had a comparable haul in 2016 with Tkachuk (more consistent 100 point player than Robertson), Fox (won a Norris) and Dube, who was tracking to be a good 2C before you know what happened.
Dallas nearly did it again in 2021 with Johnston and Stankoven. I think it’s safe to say that the Flames and Stars are in the upper echelon of drafting/developing. Calgary's 2024 draft could be another beauty, and I think for teams that are very good in the drafting/developing department, more bullets in the chamber is key.
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06-17-2025, 10:59 AM
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#2838
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Calgary
Exp:  
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
New full draft mock from Pronman.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/642...ounds-pronman/
Flames get:
18- Reschny
31 - Gastrin
54 - Schmidt
80 - Liam Pettersson (D)
144 - Tinus Luc Koblar (great pick if only for the name!)
175 - Owen Griffin
208 - Andreas Straka
I'd be pretty happy with that.
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I'd take either Kindel or West at 31 over Gastrin. But the rest of the draft is pretty good.
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06-17-2025, 01:13 PM
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#2839
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fotze2
I'm no scout. Calgary kid played Glenlake 2007 Powerhouse with Jackson Smith. Grandpa is a very prominent Plastic Surgeon in Calgary, mom is a power skating instructor. Would train in Florida in the summers with Darryl Belfry. He is weirdly good. I remember evaluating him year after year and wondering what all the hype was about because he doesn't look amazing at anything but by the end of the game he'd have 8 points. Hands are ridiculous and smart player. Almost like a Luc Robitaille or Kristian Huselius.
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Not like it matters, but are we talking about Allan Beh m? He's a pimple popper MD (Dermatologist), not a breast inflator.
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06-17-2025, 01:48 PM
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#2840
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NuclearFart
Not like it matters, but are we talking about Allan Behm? He's a pimple popper MD (Dermatologist), not a breast inflator.
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Could be. I thought that was the same thing but I guess not.
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