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Cecil Terwilliger · 08-09-2010, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by photon

http://www.chud.com/articles/article...ION/Page1.html

Here's a summary I kind of liked, and pushes me more toward his view. I really like the whole movie making is the act of inception idea, the more skillful the movie the more the audience will think the idea is their own.

I do like that article but as I've posted already, several times, I prefer the other explanation. See post 209 for the link.

photon · 08-09-2010, 01:23 PM

Thanks I'll check it out, I haven't read this whole thread and I finally just got to see the movie yesterday.

Swarly · 08-09-2010, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

But you bought, Keeanu Reeves?

He knows Kung Fu

Flames Draft Watcher · 08-09-2010, 06:43 PM

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Went back for a 2nd viewing, even more convinced that the whole thing is Cobbe's dream and Mal may or may not be a manifestation of Cobbe's concious.

Mol in the hotel room - well, the reason I think it is because there are very few inconsistancies, but this just doesn't fit. So Mol trashed the honeymoon room, then took the elevator downstairs, crossed the street, rented another hotel room, went to the other building and got up on the window ledge there? You notice the honeymoon suite is trashed, but the room across the street Mol was on is untouched.

Running through (India?) shot. 15 min before this one, Cobbe talks about the the physical architecture being able to change within a dream. Watching it again, I can't tell if he was worming his way through the walls, or if he was actually stuck and the physical architecture of the walls changed on him. Also, the company hunting him down (forgot name) and the chase, it was almost like projections attacking him - similar to a dream.

My assumption when watching the movie was that she simply went to another room she had rented in the same hotel. The architecture of the building was such that rooms might face each other. Why is the other room not being trashed any sort of issue at all?

I agree with the other poster who said Cobb is trying to go through the narrow opening without turning at first but when he becomes stuck he twists to go through sideways. I didn't find that part in any way questionable.

Inferno · 08-09-2010, 10:37 PM

I saw it this weekend. There were some good parts but for the most part I found myself dozing off many times.

Sidney Crosby's Hat · 08-09-2010, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Inferno

I saw it this weekend. There were some good parts but for the most part I found myself dozing off many times.

At least you didn't end up in limbo.

Yeah_Baby · 08-10-2010, 12:03 AM

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At least you didn't end up in limbo.

Then he'd never get out. Or would he?

Hack&Lube · 08-10-2010, 12:36 AM

Wonderful concept and I reallly like Nolan but the movie was far too simplistic and had disappointing execution. With literally the stuff of dreams to play with, we are reduced to a car chase, gunfight thriller with a silly James Bond skiing gun shoot out and big explosions?

There is so much more depth to be pried out of the material. I would have rather watched DiCaprio's perception-relative years long journey and search through mystical and fantastical limbo to find Saito (that would have been a much better film in and off itself) than the actual film as delivered.

Yeah_Baby · 08-10-2010, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

Wonderful concept and I reallly like Nolan but the movie was far too simplistic and had disappointing execution. With literally the stuff of dreams to play with, we are reduced to a car chase, gunfight thriller with a silly James Bond skiing gun shoot out and big explosions?

Are you frelling kidding me?

Hack&Lube · 08-10-2010, 12:41 AM

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Are you frelling kidding me?

Absolutely not, the movie was disappointingly shallow for myself. Not that it didn't keep me on the edge of my seat and not that it wasn't a great film, but it was more thriller than thinking man's movie which is what I had hoped it to be. Far too much screen time devoted to silly action chases and huge overdone gunfights where nobody gets shot (unless the plot calls for it) despite being outnumbered and outgunned over and over again. Those always break my sense of immersion, instantly disturb my vicarious enjoyment of any film. The film would have been much better without any gunfights or action movie cliches. Things like that would wake me up from any dream.

I kept hoping for more clues and mysteries, I kept hoping for DiCaprio's madness to keep interrupting it's way into the dreams in fantastic ways (like the train plowing through downtown). I wanted glimpses of his wife and children in his reality to make you really want to take a second look when the moment had already passed. I wanted to walk away from that film confused and thinking about it over and over again. Instead we get the ambiguous trope ending where it's obvious that it could both be reality and a dream but in a very simplistic manner.

This movie is a 10/10 as an action thriller but as a smart movie, it was full of disappointments because of the wasted potential with the material.

Make me a sequel that was Dicaprio's journey and search for Saito through dream limbo. That would be a film I would love. They completely glossed over what could have been the best part. How did he find him? How did he not lose himself? How long in his relative perception did it take?

Spoiler!

Hack&Lube · 08-10-2010, 12:51 AM

As for the soundtrack, I liked it more than much of Hans Zimmer's other work. I find him to be a bit generic in a lot of his material but the deep synths and horns and brasses really fit this film well. It gave it a depth and atmosphere fitting the sureality of the film. Reminded me of Blade Runner Blues for some reason.

Phanuthier · 08-10-2010, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

Wonderful concept and I reallly like Nolan but the movie was far too simplistic and had disappointing execution. With literally the stuff of dreams to play with, we are reduced to a car chase, gunfight thriller with a silly James Bond skiing gun shoot out and big explosions?

There is so much more depth to be pried out of the material. I would have rather watched DiCaprio's perception-relative years long journey and search through mystical and fantastical limbo to find Saito (that would have been a much better film in and off itself) than the actual film as delivered.

I think we watched different movies. My first initial reaction was "I get it, 10/10, damn why did Ellen Page make the 3rd scene at Fortress Mountain, this is why interns don't get architecture design jobs."

I didn't need a 2nd viewing (though it was nice to absorb) but there are a billion angles you can look at this movie. Its so versatile and comprehensive. I don't think its shallow at all.

Yeah_Baby · 08-10-2010, 12:53 AM

I guess the fact that I like things since 1995 makes me a simpleton then eh?

MrMastodonFarm · 08-10-2010, 12:56 AM

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Are you frelling kidding me?

Dude, it's Hack&Lube, if it's not something from the 80's or it wasn't exactly what he expected, it's crap.

Hack&Lube · 08-10-2010, 01:26 AM

Inception to me is like a burger that still tastes great but where the meat to bun ratio is slightly off. There's too much bun (gunfights, boring generic action scenes) and not enough meat (magic, dreams, mysteries, foreboding, fear, awe).

It also looks great at the beginning (Page's early lessons, the train running through downtown, DiCaprio's dream that Page snuck into) but once you bite into it and have finished it, you realize that it didn't taste as good as it looked.

Like Cliche said, it was a real A to B movie. I wished it had a bit more B to A or it went sideways a bit. I wanted more plot twists. I wanted more mysteries. I wanted more clues. I wanted the dream world to really transform in frightening and existentialist ways, to create some real fear in me. I wanted the world to consume the characters...not that it would just bring up generic thugs with guns to punch and shoot at them every 10 minutes.

Flames Draft Watcher · 08-10-2010, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by photon

http://www.chud.com/articles/article...ION/Page1.html

Here's a summary I kind of liked, and pushes me more toward his view. I really like the whole movie making is the act of inception idea, the more skillful the movie the more the audience will think the idea is their own.

I didn't really like that interpretation at all. Kind of like seeing the Christ story in the Matrix story or something. Some people really try to be creative with their analysis but I don't particularly buy it. The whole analysis is based on reading something very deep into one comment Dicaprio made on a publicity tour. I don't think the movie really supports his idea well.

Probably the hokiest interpretation I've read yet.

Human Torch · 08-10-2010, 10:13 AM

Old? http://disneycomics.free.fr/Ducks/Ro...002-033&s=date

speede5 · 08-10-2010, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by photon

http://www.chud.com/articles/article...ION/Page1.html

Here's a summary I kind of liked, and pushes me more toward his view. I really like the whole movie making is the act of inception idea, the more skillful the movie the more the audience will think the idea is their own.

I don't buy it. I think the movie is actually quite simple, what is portrayed to be real is real and dream is dream. I have now seen it a third time and the more I try to find an aha moment the more simple it appears. I still have some questions, but they aren't really anything that would affect whether or not any of it was a dream (can someone please explain how they are linked together in dream state?). It's actuallly kind of disappointing that they didn't go all out in the dream worlds, if the dreamer can change architecture, etc. they could have had a lot more fun. They should have exploited the lack of boundries just like The Matrix did.

Flames89 · 08-18-2010, 10:47 AM

This movie was completely worthy of my full ticket price. It has been a while since I thought this.

Cecil Terwilliger · 08-18-2010, 10:51 AM

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I didn't really like that interpretation at all. Kind of like seeing the Christ story in the Matrix story or something. Some people really try to be creative with their analysis but I don't particularly buy it. The whole analysis is based on reading something very deep into one comment Dicaprio made on a publicity tour. I don't think the movie really supports his idea well.

Probably the hokiest interpretation I've read yet.

If you didn't notice the Christ story in the Matix you weren't paying attention. Granted the Watchowski brothers had numerous different ideologies and religious messages in their movies Neo was definitely Christ like. Neo rearranged is one, he dies in a christ like pose, he performs miracles, he is the saviour, he dates a chick named Trinity etc etc.