iPhone 4 Super Thread: iOS 4.2 Released. Find my iPhone now free

[Temporary_User]

Originally Posted by Flames0910

Edit: Read through some of the drama above. Honestly, I think Fanin80 has a point. Apple's products really go under the microscope online where people expose and react to small flaws that would be par for the course from another manufacturer.

Apple wouldn't be where they are today if people would have taken your philosophy and applied it to Microsoft.

It's almost a case of a company growing too quick. Apple used to be able to make very good products when there wasn't much demand for them. As demand is increasing, quality seems to be going down.

[Flames0910]

Originally Posted by Temporary_User

Apple wouldn't be where they are today if people would have taken your philosophy and applied it to Microsoft.

It's almost a case of a company growing too quick. Apple used to be able to make very good products when there wasn't much demand for them. As demand is increasing, quality seems to be going down.

Err, not trying to nitpick but I was just making an observation. I'm not trying to espouse a philosophy or anything like that.

[Temporary_User]

I guess I mis-understood your observation.
I thought you were stating that because Apple is a top company in their industry that flaws in their product are looked upon harsher than what you believe they should be.
If they weren't at the top, their flaws wouldn't be criticized as much.

I took a competitor of Apple's (because it's easier to relate, but any industry would work) and stated that if consumers didn't criticize all the minor flaws in their products, then their competitors (which in this case would be Apple) wouldn't have moved up in the "rankings" like they did.

Or maybe the mis-understanding comes where you believe this should only apply to Apple and not other companies?

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Temporary_User

It's almost a case of a company growing too quick. Apple used to be able to make very good products when there wasn't much demand for them. As demand is increasing, quality seems to be going down.

I don't know about all the other stuff, but I think this is a pretty valid point.

[Tron_fdc]

I was wondering if someone can help me with running an app on my ipod touch.

I bought a simple app from the apple store to track my workouts, and every time I sync my ipod it still doesn't show up. I updated all my software, tried syncing it in different ways, but I still can't seem to get it on my ipod.

Am I doing something wrong?

Edit, I think I'm in the wrong thread....or is this the Apple super thread? WTF man.

[burn_this_city]

So I read through most of the thread. Is it worthwhile for me to update my Gen 2 touch to OS4? From what I gather its not really worth it.

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

So I read through most of the thread. Is it worthwhile for me to update my Gen 2 touch to OS4? From what I gather its not really worth it.

I also asked earlier if my 3GS should be updated to OS4 from 3.1?

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

So I read through most of the thread. Is it worthwhile for me to update my Gen 2 touch to OS4? From what I gather its not really worth it.

That I don't know about.

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

I also asked earlier if my 3GS should be updated to OS4 from 3.1?

Yes. Just be aware that there isn't a jailbreak for 4.0 3GS yet (that I am aware of, anyway).

[Flames0910]

Or maybe the mis-understanding comes where you believe this should only apply to Apple and not other companies?

I'm saying that everything Apple does is dissected and rehashed a million times per day on the Internet. Yes - this has been the experience for many organizations online - but not to the same extent, I think.

Samsung, HP and Hitachi don't receive the same popular attention that Apple does.

Sometimes this can cause a small flaw to look more widespread than it truly is. For good or bad, something that effects .1% of users becomes a big deal on the Internet.

To be clear, I'm not saying this in blind defense of Apple. What I'm definitely not saying is that people should avoid picking on Apple because I think they should take it. But I think we do need to keep some perspective because Apple is (and probably always will be) an inflammatory topic.

Last Edit: People can be quick to polarize the debate when Apple comes into play. Talking PC vs Mac is like bringing up politics or religion on a first date. I'm not a blind Apple supporter. I don't even own an iPhone.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Tron_fdc

I was wondering if someone can help me with running an app on my ipod touch.

I bought a simple app from the apple store to track my workouts, and every time I sync my ipod it still doesn't show up. I updated all my software, tried syncing it in different ways, but I still can't seem to get it on my ipod.

Am I doing something wrong?

Which app is it? A lot of those apps require some kind of client running on your computer to receive the sync data.

Also, you might want to check out the Nike+ system. All the current iPhones and iPod touches have it built-in. All you need is a $20 transmitter for your shoe (although it doesn't work for all workouts, since it only tracks steps and distance).

http://www.apple.com/ca/ipod/nike/

Edit: That Nike thing is really only for running. I've tested it on some of the stuff at the gym, and it's pretty useless on bikes or ellipticals, etc.

[mykalberta]

Originally Posted by kermitology

Never ever ever be an early adopter. Let things get sorted out first.

What version of an electronic device is safe then if not the 4th? This isnt someone buying iphone v1 or ipad v1. This is a cell phone (hundreds of them have been made before and hundreds of them have good signal strength) and yet this one has these problems.

I think its now safe for users in the US to finally start to think that maybe its not just that ATT has a terrible network, maybe there is something to do with the design of the cell phone as well. Apple wouldnt have made this change if it was just an ATT problem (I dont think).

I am really glad I ddint buy one off ebay like I was going to do. This was the version of this phone I was going to get and now I am not so sure as I need this to work as a phone as well The North Hill Rogers store said I am good to go for the upgrade when the phone is available so that side of the equation is done.

[burn_this_city]

I think I'll wait until I read about someone doing it. Sounds like its difficult to reverse once its done.

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by mykalberta

What version of an electronic device is safe then if not the 4th? This isnt someone buying iphone v1 or ipad v1. This is a cell phone (hundreds of them have been made before and hundreds of them have good signal strength) and yet this one has these problems.

I think its now safe for users in the US to finally start to think that maybe its not just that ATT has a terrible network, maybe there is something to do with the design of the cell phone as well. Apple wouldnt have made this change if it was just an ATT problem (I dont think).

I am really glad I ddint buy one off ebay like I was going to do. This was the version of this phone I was going to get and now I am not so sure as I need this to work as a phone as well The North Hill Rogers store said I am good to go for the upgrade when the phone is available so that side of the equation is done.

I always buy the last version of the last generation Usually that's when the most features have been implemented and most bugs have been worked out and you get the best of both worlds. Then when the newest thing is announced, demand drops for the old one and prices drop like a rock. The 3GS is great so far for me.

This is my philosophy for almost all hardware.

[Tron_fdc]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Which app is it? A lot of those apps require some kind of client running on your computer to receive the sync data.

Also, you might want to check out the Nike+ system. All the current iPhones and iPod touches have it built-in. All you need is a $20 transmitter for your shoe (although it doesn't work for all workouts, since it only tracks steps and distance).

http://www.apple.com/ca/ipod/nike/

Edit: That Nike thing is really only for running. I've tested it on some of the stuff at the gym, and it's pretty useless on bikes or ellipticals, etc.

Work-out by Steve Lanopollo

It's a simple app that tracks weight lifted, reps and exercise.

So far I've deduced I need to jailbreak my ipod, which makes no sense to me. Why do I have to go through all this rigamaroll to run something on my ipod I just bought on itunes?

grrrrrr

[HotHotHeat]

Originally Posted by Flames0910

this is funny:

good way to let people try a new feature though

I'd keep hanging up until I got a cute CSR. Then I'd questions. Lots of questions.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Tron_fdc

So far I've deduced I need to jailbreak my ipod, which makes no sense to me. Why do I have to go through all this rigamaroll to run something on my ipod I just bought on itunes?

grrrrrr

That doesn't make any sense to me either... lemme take a look at it.

Edit: Whoa. I just did a google search for "Work-out by Steve Lanopollo" and the first hit on the page was this thread. That's some crazy-assed spidering.

[kermitology]

Tron, what OS is your Touch?

[sclitheroe]

Originally Posted by Temporary_User

Apple wouldn't be where they are today if people would have taken your philosophy and applied it to Microsoft.

It's almost a case of a company growing too quick. Apple used to be able to make very good products when there wasn't much demand for them. As demand is increasing, quality seems to be going down.

I heartily disagree with this one. Apple’s products have always been rife with quality control and engineering issues.

How far back do you want to go? Puffing batteries and poor thermal paste applications on Macbook Pro’s? Cracking cases and yellowing wrist rests on Macbooks? The near certainty that the power supply in your eMac will blow? G5’s leaking coolant all over the floor?

Even recently, how about all those machines with defective hard drives that literally detached their heads while in use. Video chips frying. Video chips frying again! Macbook Air rev1’s overheating looking at a YouTube vid. Magsafe connectors fraying and sparking. Yellow tint on top of the line iMac screens. Multiple video card issues on ATI equipped iMac’s. etc,etc,etc

The list is as endless for Apple as any other manufacturer out there. The only difference in my experience has been that Apple has better customer support to help when these kinds of issues do occur. Not many companies will identify these mistakes and engineering issues, and continue to repair and replace well outside their regular warranty period. Whether its an admission of guilt or not, I don’t know, but its definitely good for the consumer.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by kermitology

Tron, what OS is your Touch?

Oh wow. I was reading that completely wrong. I thought Tron was talking about syncing his workout data to his computer, not the actual app itself.

All I can see is that it requires OS 3.1.2 at least.

[Tron_fdc]

Originally Posted by kermitology

Tron, what OS is your Touch?

How do I figure that out?

I'm running version 1.15 (4B1), but I don't think that's what you're asking, is it?