I used to play that game, one of my personal favorites was Harpoon by 360 studios, which was a pretty deep game. The best part of the game was there was absolutely no unit balancing, the units whether ships or planes or subs matched their real world performances. So if you were Russian, you were at a pretty real disadvantage with the exception of long range missiles, but your sensors were pretty crappy. You really had to be good with your recon.
The sub portion of the game, you had to be incredibly patient, you couldn't go to flank speed, you had to keep an eye on how much noise you were radiating and have a smart patrol plan.
I also loved fleet command which at the time was just graphically cool as you could wathc your planes and ships in action and it also used the Janes series of books to define your unit capability.
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Yeah Fleet command is a sweet game, I loved how it demonstrated how chaotic things can get in a hurry. Like when 10 anti ship cruise missiles show up on your radar, and those Russian ones are fast, and suddenly you've got a dozen SAMs firing and other close in weapons systems going nuts. Great interface too.
Janes was such an awesome computer game developer, its too bad they stopped. WWII fighters was way ahead of its time graphics wise, also a favourite of mine:
even when you watch that video I posted you have 8 million radio messages and alerts happening at one time.
I still remember one mission where I had a carrier battle group and I had to escort it through a deep water strait and the only enemy was a Soviet Cruise Missile firing sub I think it was an Oscar. Anyways, the damn thing rippled off 10 shipwreck missiles at the heart of my formation going after my carrier. I sent a couple of helicopters out to search for the sub while I prayed that my frigates and destroyers could knock the missiles down. But and the systems AI was amazing. He dove under the layer and sprinted into the middle of my formation and fired a spread of torpedoes and badly damaged my carrier and sank a cruiser, then sprinted out and launched more missiles and instead of sprinting in to the formation he sprinted ahead, and went quiet under the layer and waited for my formation to come to him because I forgot to zig zag. Then he crippled my carrier and sank a destoyer before I got him.
All told the Soviets traded one missile boat for a cruiser a couple of destroyers and badly damaging a nuclear powered carrier to the point where I couldn't get enough speed to launch fighters safely for a strike on a Russian base.
I think I need to order the game off of Steam.
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New Zealand doesn't have any jet fighters, and its EEZ is only slightly smaller than Canada's. I think we could be spending the millions on more useful things, even in other areas of the military.
New Zealand doesn't have any jet fighters, and its EEZ is only slightly smaller than Canada's. I think we could be spending the millions on more useful things, even in other areas of the military.
That's nice, we're not New Zealand, the strategic situation isn't even close to the same.
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I wonder will this be the last manned fighter jet order for Canada (due to unmanned vehicles being cheaper and better performing over the coming decades)...or is that the same logic that killed the Avro Arrow (missiles would make fighters obsolete they said).
Time will tell...but with the current trajectory its hard to imagine manned fighters providing air superiority when compared to AI piloted drones in 15-20 years (or remotely piloted planes even sooner). Personally, I think we will see the end of the fighter pilot in our lifetime. The performance gains that a plane could realize if they didn't have to coddle the pilot would be astounding.
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New Zealand doesn't have any jet fighters, and its EEZ is only slightly smaller than Canada's. I think we could be spending the millions on more useful things, even in other areas of the military.
Remind me which border New Zealand shares with Russia again.
F-35 ‘ready to go,’ company says as U.S. Air Force prepares to declare stealth fighter combat-ready
The company behind the F-35 is pushing back against Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s assertion the stealth fighter “does not work,” even as the U.S. Air Force says the planes should be ready for war in the fall.
Retired lieutenant-general Charles Bouchard, chief executive of Lockheed Martin Canada, said it was “disheartening” to hear Trudeau’s comment on Tuesday, in which the prime minister blasted the F-35 as a plane that “does not work and is far from working.” http://news.nationalpost.com/news/ca...r-combat-ready
The military’s top weapons tester has been warning for months that the F-35 will not be ready for its final test phase until 2018 at the earliest. On Tuesday, the Pentagon officially acknowledged the schedule slip.
There's so much weird stuff floating around, mainly because of the three variants of the F-35. Canada is buying their own variant of the A and I think the main difference is the addition of landing chute and a change in the refueling probe.
Out of the three classes the A and the C are the closest. The reports of engine problems and issues with lightning pertain to the B which is the Marine variant. Most of the problems with the A revolve around the software of which there are two distinct pieces and I don't have the names memorized, but one is the software that reports on the planes health, and the other is the software that fights the planes. They were reporting some pretty what I feel are major issues with both pieces of software a couple of months ago. But who knows maybe they windows 10'd them.
I do think that Justin shot his mouth off with the don't work comment, and the whole alluding to not allowing Lockheed Martin to compete, it was just an all around dumb thing to say frankly, especially when your part of NATO and NORAD and your not pulling your weight everywhere else.
As far as the Super Hornet, its an old concept and if you were buying them strictly as a short term replacement then fine, go to it even though its a completely different aircraft and airframe from the traditional F/18. But its at the end of it technological life and not a smart move to go with in terms of a long term air force strategy. But if the Liberals politicize this like they did with the helicopters, this will be a crippling disaster for the Air Force.
As far as the use of Drones in the future, maybe, but I'm not seeing it unless you can replicate the human brain and allow it to operate separately from human control effectively. Also we've seen suspicion around hacks of US Drones that have lead to crashes and we know two things. IF you don't have an autonomous drone, strategy number one is to compromise the drone. Strategy number 2 is to jam the data links between drone and operator, strategy number 3 is to kill the operator base which is non mobile. I just don't buy that the concept of an all drone airforce is in the near future, and a computer is no substitute for a pilot on scene with maximum situational awareness.
Back to the F-35
Denmark ratifies purchase of F-35 fleet to replace their aging F-16's starting in 2021
That's nice, we're not New Zealand, the strategic situation isn't even close to the same.
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Remind me which border New Zealand shares with Russia again.
Canada's biggest threat is domestic terrorism, if Russia really wanted to invade or launch missile strikes (scoff) we'd be effed anyway. 20-30 Hornets or Super Hornets along the US border is all we really need. Anything else would be for status or for foreign missions.
^We have NATO and NORAD treaty obligations we are obligated to fulfill.
65 F-35s was supposed to be the minimum fleet to fill our obligations (edit -auditor general said up to 14 more were probably required as replacements).
We might order some F model (2 seat) Super Hornets and hopefully some Growlers, so the minimum numbers could differ. Sounds like they are contemplating a mixed Super and Classic fleet for the interim.
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^We have NATO and NORAD treaty obligations we are obligated to fulfill.
65 F-35s was supposed to be the minimum fleet to fill our obligations (edit -auditor general said up to 14 more were probably required as replacements).
We might order some F model (2 seat) Super Hornets and hopefully some Growlers, so the minimum numbers could differ. Sounds like they are contemplating a mixed Super and Classic fleet for the interim.
Whats wrong with a fleet of Cessna's with knives taped to them?
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Either that or let them have the place. Their Government is only slightly crazier than ours.
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Super Hornet was the last Jet I was hoping the country would buy. Even if I figured it would be the one they ended up with. why mess with something so familiar. The cost to retrain is non existent unlike the Grypon, Eurofighter , Rafale and F-35.
