Luongo To Start Against Germany

[CGY12]

No offense Canuck fans but the comparison to Iggy is a little far fetched. Iggy has got it done many times in big games. Anybody remember 2002 gold medal game? What about game 7 against the Canucks? Even game 6 against the Sharks. Whether the statistics are there or not Iggy usually brings his game and plays well in the big games. Unfortunately for Luongo the goaltending position is different in that if you don't play great in the big game your most likely going to be the goat.

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by subdude

If ya don't hate Lou than what's with the inflammatory sig?

It's the truth - he did have to use the crapper in a elimination playoff game during OT...

I do support Luongo not being the starter

what is wrong with that?

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

I don't hate Luongo either...And yes he is top 5ish for sure...and this whole best goaltender in the world label talk as finally died down..which was my biggest bone to pick..Cause he is not the best goalie in the world.

haha. Really Mel?
Well i really hate Luongo. hehe

Now show me some head snapping dives tonite!!!! everyone is watching!

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

haha. Really Mel?
Well i really hate Luongo. hehe

Now show me some head snapping dives tonite!!!! everyone is watching!

I don't hate him, I just don't think he is as good as some people say, and also I don't understand the justification for putting blind faith into someone who has proven jack squat. So i put more stock into winning in the playoffs then i do 3 consective shutouts in Nov...seem fair to me

[Smell My Finger]

Now that Babcock, Yzerman have made the deciosion i'm not going to be chanting Lou at ridiculously easy saves like Canuck fans have the propensity to do. But Win Canada win and if that has to include Greaser well so be it.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

I don't hate him, I just don't think he is as good as some people say, and also I don't understand the justification for putting blind faith into someone who has proven jack squat. So i put more stock into winning in the playoffs then i do 3 consective shutouts in Nov...seem fair to me

Thats fine and all but everyone knows you hate him. How can you not?

They mentioned this stat on the Fan 960 yesterday. In the past 2 years of playoffs Brodeur has 4 wins, Luongo has 6 wins and Fleury has 30 wins!

How can you not give Fleury a chance?

[Kesler17]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Thats fine and all but everyone knows you hate him. How can you not?

They mentioned this stat on the Fan 960 yesterday. In the past 2 years of playoffs Brodeur has 4 wins, Luongo has 6 wins and Fleury has 30 wins!

How can you not give Fleury a chance?

I was going to post a argument but I just looked at who it is I will be trying to explain it to, so why bother

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by Kesler17

I was going to post a argument but I just looked at who it is I will be trying to explain it to, so why bother

Well I would understand your argument alot better if you would stop diving every 2nd sentence. hehe

But i do agree with Canucks fans on one thing. Poor Burrows should definitely be on this team.

[Kesler17]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Well I would understand your argument alot better if you would stop diving every 2nd sentence. hehe

But i do agree with Canucks fans on one thing. Poor Burrows should definitely be on this team.

Just curious, how old are you?

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by Kesler17

Just curious, how old are you?

Old enough to know the Canucks is a franchise of fail.

Wave those white towels baby!

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by subdude

Yeah, exactly, I'm a diehard Canucks fan but I love Iggy and the passion he brings to the game - his fight with Willie Mitchell last year was awesome, and the last game against the Nucks he actually shoved Luongo out of his way with a "###### you" look on his face - love the guy. I predict another hat trick for him tonight.

I would argue that there is a pretty significant difference between Canucks fans' ability to jump on the Iginla bandwagon and for Flames fans to do likewise with Luongo. Rightly or wrongly, Iginla has established for himself an almost above reproach reputation within the hockey world. He is an extremely affable guy whose whole demeanor translates very well in the media, and this has a great deal to do with why he gets the endorsements that he does. Notice in these Olympics that both Nike and Bell have advertisements featuring Iginla; hell, not even Crosby has received the same sort of commercial endorsement that Iginla has for these games!

On the other hand, Luongo has a reputation of being arrogant; he has been frequently truculent with the media, and has been—again, rightly or wrongly—construed as having a tendency to throw his teammates under the bus after a loss. His widely publicized inability to come to terms with Florida did him no favours with regards to his public persona, and then his inaugural press conference in Vancouver—the immortal response to the question of why he wears #1: "I think it pretty much says it all"—rather firmly entrenched him with the perception among observers that he has an inflated sense of self-importance. People generally do not respond well to arrogance—especially when it appears to be premature or unfounded—and Luongo has developed something of a reputation for being inappropriately arrogant.

I suspect that the reason many Flames fans have difficulty embracing Luongo is in part connected to this public persona that has developed around him. For me, personally, it will be difficult to want the same type of success in this tournament as I do for Iginla, Crosby and company. I will cheer for Canada, and that means cheering every time Luongo stops the puck; I just can't help that that will leave a bit of a sour taste in my mouth, in large part because of how he has presented himself in the past.

[Kesler17]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Old enough to know the Canucks is a franchise of fail.

Wave those white towels baby!

Thank you I got my answer

[Kesler17]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I would argue that there is a pretty significant difference between Canucks fans' ability to jump on the Iginla bandwagon and for Flames fans to do likewise with Luongo. Rightly or wrongly, Iginla has established for himself an almost above reproach reputation within the hockey world. He is an extremely affable guy whose whole demeanor translates very well in the media, and this has a great deal to do with why he gets the endorsements that he does. Notice in these Olympics that both Nike and Bell have advertisements featuring Iginla; hell, not even Crosby has received the same sort of commercial endorsement that Iginla has for these games!

On the other hand, Luongo has a reputation of being arrogant; he has been frequently truculent with the media, and has been—again, rightly or wrongly—construed as having a tendency to throw his teammates under the bus after a loss. His widely publicized inability to come to terms with Florida did him no favours with regards to his public persona, and then his inaugural press conference in Vancouver—the immortal response to the question of why he wears #1: "I think it pretty much says it all"—rather firmly entrenched him with the perception among observers that he has an inflated sense of self-importance. People generally do not respond well to arrogance—especially when it appears to be premature or unfounded—and Luongo has developed something of a reputation for being inappropriately arrogant.

I suspect that the reason many Flames fans have difficulty embracing Luongo is in part connected to this public persona that has developed around him. For me, personally, it will be difficult to want the same type of success in this tournament as I do for Iginla, Crosby and company. I will cheer for Canada, and that means cheering every time Luongo stops the puck; I just can't help that that will leave a bit of a sour taste in my mouth, in large part because of how he has presented himself in the past.

Is there sour taste in your mouth after cheering for Danny Heatley? Would there be sour taste cheering for Broduer if he was to play again after making those games after last game? I think not. It just has to do with the fact he plays for the canucks, you put Luongo on the flames and there is no mention of anything that you have pointed out above.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by Kesler17

Is there sour taste in your mouth after cheering for Danny Heatley?

A little bit.

Would there be sour taste cheering for Broduer if he was to play again after making those games after last game?

No. Brodeur is a proven champion, and very humble by comparison to Luongo. He wasn't good in the last game, and for the record I think asking Luongo to carry the mail for the rest of the tournament is the right move... but Textcritic is right: Luongo doesn't seem like nearly as nice a guy.

I think not. It just has to do with the fact he plays for the canucks, you put Luongo on the flames and there is no mention of anything that you have pointed out above.

This is such a stupid argument--because it's just as applicable the other way: you're blind to Luongo's flaws because he's a Canuck.

In the end, the only thing that matters is that Luongo is a very good shot blocker. He's a big body, and when he's on his game he's a very technically sound goaltender that can keep a team in a lot of games.

But he can't hold Martin Brodeur's jockstrap. And this tournament won't change that fact.

[Kesler17]

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

A little bit.



No. Brodeur is a proven champion, and very humble by comparison to Luongo. He wasn't good in the last game, and for the record I think asking Luongo to carry the mail for the rest of the tournament is the right move... but Textcritic is right: Luongo doesn't seem like nearly as nice a guy.



This is such a stupid argument--because it's just as applicable the other way: you're blind to Luongo's flaws because he's a Canuck.

In the end, the only thing that matters is that Luongo is a very good shot blocker. He's a big body, and when he's on his game he's a very technically sound goaltender that can keep a team in a lot of games.

But he can't hold Martin Brodeur's jockstrap. And this tournament won't change that fact.

Very humble eh, Broduer's post game comments:

I made the saves. It was a tough game. They got some bounces and scored some goals, one goes off my player. I made some key saves I thought in the game to turn it around and we just didn’t take advantage of it. After the two breakaway saves I made in the second I thought maybe something as going to happen and we went on to take three penalties in a row and they score that fourth goal that was important for them.

A very team oriented humble guy indeed

[Infamous1]

For everyone that says Luongo always sucks under pressure or blows the big game....yes last year's game 6 was not pretty against the Hawks. He probably should have had 3 of the 7 goals. The others were nice shots/chances.

The other game people always talk about is the one where he had an equipment malfunction AKA had to take a crap in the OT intermission against Anaheim in the decisive game 5. I almost never hear anyone EVER mention how in that game, yes the winning goal was lame because he was looking at the referee after Hansen got destroyed by a questionable hit but that was probably his best game of the entire season. He made 56 saves and lost 2-1. Yeah talk about choking.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by Kesler17

Very humble eh, Broduer's post game comments:

A very team oriented humble guy indeed

Yep. Not to mention a guy who tells the truth.

I don't really know what you're arguing here: you're saying that Brodeur's not a champion? Or that Luongo is?

Both of those are objectively untrue. So lean on whatever rhetoric you want--you're on the wrong side of this one.

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by Infamous1

For everyone that says Luongo always sucks under pressure or blows the big game....yes last year's game 6 was not pretty against the Hawks. He probably should have had 3 of the 7 goals. The others were nice shots/chances.

The other game people always talk about is the one where he had an equipment malfunction AKA had to take a crap in the OT intermission against Anaheim in the decisive game 5. I almost never hear anyone EVER mention how in that game, yes the winning goal was lame because he was looking at the referee after Hansen got destroyed by a questionable hit but that was probably his best game of the entire season. He made 56 saves and lost 2-1. Yeah talk about choking.

Well Brodeur gets crucified for his at bat play, which should be the only thing he gets crucified for, at least it was a "hockey" play...Luongo gets caught being ref/captain in OT in an elimination game is much much worse...much worse, that and he shat himself

[Kesler17]

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

Yep. Not to mention a guy who tells the truth.

I don't really know what you're arguing here: you're saying that Brodeur's not a champion? Or that Luongo is?

Both of those are objectively untrue. So lean on whatever rhetoric you want--you're on the wrong side of this one.

Did I say he wasn't? And so your saying he's telling the truth, if Luongo does that its him throwin his team under the bus. And Marty has to admit he messed up he didn't make the saves he needed to but instead he blames it on his team. Brodeur is a champion but his time is over in this tournament. Your clearly on the wrong side when you say that Brodeur is correct in saying that he wasn't at all fault. I just posted that statement because you said Marty is very humble.

[Kesler17]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

Well Brodeur gets crucified for his at bat play, which should be the only thing he gets crucified for, at least it was a "hockey" play...Luongo gets caught being ref/captain in OT in an elimination game is much much worse...much worse, that and he shat himself

Swinging at a puck which is in mid air like a Sosa swing is a hockey play? come on

Talking about his fault, how about the third goal where he went for that stupid poke check.