03-11-2009, 07:16 PM
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#261
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Originally Posted by Tiger
They made V a better character in the movie more moving, more thought provoking.
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He wasn't supposed to be a hero, he wasn't supposed to be moving.. He was the other side of the spectrum.
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03-11-2009, 10:32 PM
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#262
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Never read the graphic novel. And a lot of people seem to hate the movie for being so different. Which is the same case for another movie I really enjoy which I will not mention for the sake of the draft. But I LOVED the movie. I dont think it was anti-bush, I just thought that it made people think and show them how dangerous allowing our government too much control can be. Love the line on the poster too
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03-12-2009, 08:38 AM
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#263
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Slightly right of left of center
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Originally Posted by Blaster86
He wasn't supposed to be a hero, he wasn't supposed to be moving.. He was the other side of the spectrum.
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He wasn't really the opposite end of the spectrum, They say it is about facist vs anarchist, but V was more of a social anarchist (the land of do as you please, not take what you want). In that way I don't think the movie was much of a change.
A good work by them to adapt a movie to the times and make it more meaningful.
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03-12-2009, 09:11 AM
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#264
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: @robdashjamieson
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Is SportsJunky AK'd?
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03-12-2009, 09:14 AM
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Uncle Chester
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Oops, I think so. Stand by - pick coming up.
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03-12-2009, 09:16 AM
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#266
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Tiger
People may argue my movie adaptation pick, but I say the movie was actually better than the graphic novel.
V for Vendetta

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Laugh. Not even close to being better than the graphic novel.
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03-12-2009, 09:49 AM
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#267
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Uncle Chester
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In the Alternate Reality category I pick Black Bolt from the Ulimate universe.
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Ultimate Universe (Earth-1610)
In this reality, Black Bolt used his voice to destroy Attilan, that was being infiltrated by the Fantastic Four.
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http://www.comicvine.com/black-bolt/29-4329/
Black Bolt has the ability to unleash great destructive power through the use of his voice, but even the slightest whisper will release his power. Therefore, for the most part, he remains silent. This "quasi-sonic" scream is powered by electron energy that he draws in from the environment. At maximum the force is equal to that caused by the detonation of a nuclear weapon. Other possible manifestations of this harnessed electron energy include electron energy blasts, flight, enhanced strength (the "Master Blow" being a superhuman punch), ability to survive in space, and the ability to analyze and manipulate matter. The fork-shaped antenna that Black Bolt has worn upon his brow since childhood enable him to channel his powers in more directed, less destructive ways. Due to the fear of speaking while sleeping, Black Bolt practices a form of meditation, which may also help to enhance his abilities.
Like all Inhumans, Black Bolt is physically superior to normal human beings due to generations of eugenics. Attributes in which Inhumans excel over human include reaction time, stamina, strength, resistance to injury, and speed.
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03-12-2009, 10:00 AM
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#268
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Slightly right of left of center
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Originally Posted by Ronald Pagan
Laugh. Not even close to being better than the graphic novel.
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I will agree to disagree! I did say people will argue my choice.
but I will say good pick on Marv.
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03-12-2009, 10:55 AM
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#269
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiger
He wasn't really the opposite end of the spectrum, They say it is about facist vs anarchist, but V was more of a social anarchist (the land of do as you please, not take what you want). In that way I don't think the movie was much of a change.
A good work by them to adapt a movie to the times and make it more meaningful.
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No, see that was the problem. V was no longer a "do as you please" (as you put it) anarchist. He became a freedom fighter, he wasn't fighting because he wanted too, because he thought his way was better. He was fighting because there was oppression. It changes the character entirely, which in turn changed the plot entirely.
It was no longer two, equally bad forces, who didn't have the moderation to do what was needed, fighting each other. It became a story of Good Vs. Evil, which was not what the book was supposed to be.
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03-12-2009, 01:52 PM
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#270
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Slightly right of left of center
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heres better words then I can come up with
"I don't know. What is Moore posing here as the only options for political ideology? He paints a world in which one can ONLY be EITHER a ethnocentric homophobic racist fascist or an 'anarchist'. All right. What does he mean by this? Returning to a state of nature? Gradual and spontaneous shift to democracy? End of the modern mechanized world? Spontaneous national adoption of a sort of leaderless socialist state? Hmm. Moore handles his material childishly. For me, the political-apocalypse stories that WORK show the protagonists yearning after a state of leave-me-alone-let's-all-be-friends sort of political neutralism-- a state of 'let's have universal human rights and that's all please' joy. A utopia of 'being a normal person'. Children of Men is like this. Even Watchmen is less heavy on the socialism and focuses more on the 'let's stop being persecutors and start being nice to everyone else again' mentality. Readers can therefore identify with the protagonists-- they aren't radicals. They're just normal people trying to be normal again. But in V for Vendetta, the only way peace can be achieved is if every individual person is a politically-radical crowd member willing to use mob violence.
Not inspirational.
I don't care what you think about the degree to which individuals must be political to preserve their rights. This book makes no coherent political point and the messages it DOES articulate are comprised solely of platitudes. It fails to rpesent any realistic view of any political spectrum whatsoever. Instead of focusing on human rights/the dignity of man/the right to be free, it sours the whole batch by presenting some shallowly-conceived idea of anarchism as the solution to all modern political crises. The fact is that this book reads like a poorly-contrived piece of anti-Thatcher propaganda.
Which is essentially what it is. "
I thought the movie plot was entirely different, I agree 100%. What I believe is because the movie actually had a message and good characters, and was moving made it better than the book, which I thought had no heart
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03-12-2009, 04:56 PM
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#271
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: @robdashjamieson
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I have no idea which way I'm going yet... feel free to carry on...
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03-12-2009, 06:58 PM
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I am proud to select as my Male Hero, a person that I have already picked as the owner of the greatest costume, The Norse God of Thunder, Thor
Thor's father Odin decides his son needs to be taught humility and consequently places Thor (without memories of godhood) into the body and memories of an existing, partially disabled human medical student, Donald Blake. After becoming a doctor and thoroughly believing himself to be the young surgeon Blake, he later discovers Thor's disguised hammer and learns to change back and forth into the Thunder God. The real Blake's persona remains elsewhere until many years later, after Odin becomes satisfied of Thor's humility and lifts the spell, thereby removing the need for a mortal alter ego. The mortal experience, however, shapes Thor into an honorable and courteous individual, who is loyal to all comrades.
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03-12-2009, 07:13 PM
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#273
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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^^^ Thor hasbeen picked already if I'm not mistaken
EDIT: DUDE!! lol you picked Thor already! You can't pick someone twice hahaha
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03-12-2009, 09:15 PM
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#274
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: @robdashjamieson
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Female Hero
Black Cat
Felicia Hardy was born in Queens, New York. Her father Walter was a world-renowned cat burglar who, before his arrest, encouraged her to never settle for second best. If she loved basketball, she should work to become a basketball player and not just a cheerleader.
During her freshman year in college, Felicia was date raped by her boyfriend Ryan. Hating the idea of being a victim, she decided that despite the consequences she would murder her rapist. She put aside her studies and began training in various fighting styles and acrobatics. Finally, after months of preparing, she set out for revenge, but before she could find him, Ryan was killed in a drunk-driving accident.
Furious that she was denied the chance to steal the life of the man who had stolen hers, and feeling reckless, Hardy decided to utilize her new skills to follow in the footsteps of her father. After amassing a fortune in stolen items, Felicia adopted her costumed identity.
She first donned the Black Cat costume in order to break her father out of prison. On the same night, she met Spider-Man. Unfortunately for Felicia, her father died, and she then faked her own death. Despite her antipathy towards men, Felicia felt a kinship with this lone hero; Spider-Man was the first man she felt she could trust and she grew to believe herself in love with him. Felicia looked for a way to earn his trust and continued with the Black Cat persona as a misguided attempt to attract his affection. Seeing the good in Felicia, Spider-Man made every attempt to have her criminal record expunged.
Felicia had been placed in a mental institution, but escaped. She joined forces with Spider-Man against the Maggia. She was granted conditional amnesty, and again convinced Spider-Man that she had died.
The Black Cat finally found the opportunity to prove herself after learning the Kingpin controlled an incredibly powerful detonator. The Owl planned to use the weapon to hold New York City hostage. Meanwhile, Doctor Octopus planned to use the weapon to destroy the city altogether. However, the Black Cat was able to use her abilities to steal the item first and protect it from all parties. She gave the detonator to Spider-Man and became the target of Doctor Octopus's revenge. Although Spider-Man was able to tear off his mechanical appendages, Octopus was still able to mentally control them and hold the Black Cat still while his men opened fire. Spider-Man barely got her to the hospital in time and as they operated on the dozens of bullet and knife wounds, Peter realized just how much he cared for Felicia.
After she recovered, they began a relationship and soon Peter revealed his identity to her. Felicia had great difficulty accepting the fact that Peter was just a man beneath the mask and couldn't understand his need for a civilian life. Peter was hurt, but continued the relationship since it was the first time he didn't need to hide his life as Spider-Man from someone.
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03-12-2009, 09:17 PM
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#275
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cowtown
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After the win tonight, I'm wonderin' if Kipper could be selected, as he truly falls into the category of "Superhero"...
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03-12-2009, 09:43 PM
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#276
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Originally Posted by MattyC
^^^ Thor hasbeen picked already if I'm not mistaken
EDIT: DUDE!! lol you picked Thor already! You can't pick someone twice hahaha
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Yeah but I only picked him as best costume before, does that take him off the board for everything else?
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03-12-2009, 09:53 PM
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#277
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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Originally Posted by MattyC
^^^ Thor hasbeen picked already if I'm not mistaken
EDIT: DUDE!! lol you picked Thor already! You can't pick someone twice hahaha
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He could take Beta Ray Bill or Thor Girl.
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03-12-2009, 10:35 PM
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#278
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Superflyer
Yeah but I only picked him as best costume before, does that take him off the board for everything else?
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lol yes. You cant pick a hero more than once. You can pick their gadgets. Forexample picking him after his hammer had been picked was fine. Captain America has been picked for his suit, he is not open for Male Hero
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03-12-2009, 11:37 PM
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#279
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Lifetime In Suspension
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Damn you SJ for picking Black Bolt. Well played.
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03-13-2009, 07:41 AM
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#280
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Originally Posted by MattyC
lol yes. You cant pick a hero more than once. You can pick their gadgets. Forexample picking him after his hammer had been picked was fine. Captain America has been picked for his suit, he is not open for Male Hero
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OK I figured costume would fall under the same category as gadgets. I will leave Thor as my male hero and pick a new costume then.
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