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Old 05-06-2025, 06:25 PM   #261
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Also if it wasn't Sam Bennett, a player who has consistently crossed the line with sneaky dirty plays with forearm shivers, head shots, and other dangerous hits. The Panthers this playoffs have been the dirtiest team I can recall in a long time with multiple hits that have been suspensions or could have easily been suspensions.
Well if it wasn’t Sam Bennett it would be crapweasel Perry.
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And that is why we can’t root for the Leafs. It’s round 2 game 2 and their fans are already insufferable.

Just imagine if they were successful
It's insane how much coverage this nothing play has gotten. All the slow mo angles disecting where Bennett places his hand and whatnot. It's a classic case where the result is what people judge and not the intent.
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Old 05-07-2025, 01:52 PM   #263
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This is why people hate Toronto and the way the media covers them.

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The netminder’s mask came off in the first period of Toronto’s 5-4 victory when he stopped a shot by Sam Reinhart. Stolarz appeared to shake his head before putting the mask back on and resuming play.

In the second period, he was elbowed in the head as Bennett - who was not penalized on the play - skated through the crease area. Stolarz immediately grabbed his head as he fell to the ice.

A few minutes later, during a television timeout, replays showed Stolarz leaning over the boards and vomiting into a bucket.
That’s an excerpt from a Canadian Press article, and there’s a few things worth noting:

~ “mask came off… while stopping a shot…”
- The mask was literally knocked off by a point blank shot that hit him square in the head. It didn’t just happen to coincidentally fall off while he was making a routine save. This is blatantly “including all the facts” but in a way that makes you only care about the ones that align with the point of the article.

~ “elbowed in the head… while skating through the crease…”
- The side of Bennett’s forearm made contact with the side of Stolarz’s head while Bennett was in the crease battling for puck possession with a Leaf defenceman… but line above makes it sound like Bennett just laid him out with an elbow out of nowhere while skating through the crease and not even doing anything connected to playing hockey. As before, this is how they make you care about what they want you to care about.

~ “A few minutes later…”
- The announcers at the time were saying it was 10 minutes later. I haven’t looked at the replays to corroborate, but 10 minutes is not “a few.” It could have been “a few” gametime minutes, which would likely be 10 realtime minutes… which would still make “a few minutes” totally misleading… but it could also be the announcers were talking about 10 gametime minutes, which could be anywhere from 15-20 realtime minutes.

The point to all this, though, is the media is so focused on trying to get a player suspended that they’re literally ignoring the real story… why was Stolarz never assessed for head trauma? Neither the point blank shot to the head nor the incidentally-on-purpose-but-only-hard-enough-to-be-annoying contact from Bennett triggered any protocol whatsoever. He had to puke in a bucket way more than “a few minutes later” before anyone did anything.

That’s the real story. The way some (most?) of the media is trying to use what happened to Stolarz solely to get an advantage to help the Leafs win is absolutely… I can’t even think of the right word… ridiculous? atrocious? abhorrent? It’s certainly a mixture of irresponsible and unbecoming at the very least.

Anyway… if anyone is ever wondering which media outlets to trust more than others, just look at the coverage of things like this. Who’s asking the right questions vs who’s just trying to capitalize (either for themselves via clicks or for a third party via twisting the truth and focusing on the wrong things).

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The Tkachuk "attempts" at the end of a game he was about to lose were 10x worse...nothing there with Bennett just a poor result with the injury.
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This is why people hate Toronto and the way the media covers them.



That’s an excerpt from a Canadian Press article, and there’s a few things worth noting:

~ “mask came off… while stopping a shot…”
- The mask was literally knocked off by a point blank shot that hit him square in the head. It didn’t just happen to coincidentally fall off while he was making a routine save. This is blatantly “including all the facts” but in a way that makes you only care about the ones that align with the point of the article.

~ “elbowed in the head… while skating through the crease…”
- The side of Bennett’s forearm made contact with the side of Stolarz’s head while Bennett was in the crease battling for puck possession with a Leaf defenceman… but line above makes it sound like Bennett just laid him out with an elbow out of nowhere while skating through the crease and not even doing anything connected to playing hockey. As before, this is how they make you care about what they want you to care about.

~ “A few minutes later…”
- The announcers at the time were saying it was 10 minutes later. I haven’t looked at the replays to corroborate, but 10 minutes is not “a few.” It could have been “a few” gametime minutes, which would likely be 10 realtime minutes… which would still make “a few minutes” totally misleading… but it could also be the announcers were talking about 10 gametime minutes, which could be anywhere from 15-20 realtime minutes.

The point to all this, though, is the media is so focused on trying to get a player suspended that they’re literally ignoring the real story… why was Stolarz never assessed for head trauma? Neither the point blank shot to the head nor the incidentally-on-purpose-but-only-hard-enough-to-be-annoying contact from Bennett triggered any protocol whatsoever. He had to puke in a bucket way more than “a few minutes later” before anyone did anything.

That’s the real story. The way some (most?) of the media is trying to use what happened to Stolarz solely to get an advantage to help the Leafs win is absolutely… I can’t even think of the right word… ridiculous? atrocious? abhorrent? It’s certainly a mixture of irresponsible and unbecoming at the very least.

Anyway… if anyone is ever wondering which media outlets to trust more than others, just look at the coverage of things like this. Who’s asking the right questions vs who’s just trying to capitalize (either for themselves via clicks or for a third party via twisting the truth and focusing on the wrong things).
The article is fine. All of the above is nothing more than your own biased view of things, and really stretching hard to find something wrong withe the article.

Everything thing they say is factually correct. You are then taking those words and twisting them to your view. For instance when you say this:

" but line above makes it sound like Bennett just laid him out with an elbow out of nowhere while skating through the crease and not even doing anything connected to playing hockey. As before, this is how they make you care about what they want you to care about."

No. That's not what they wrote. At all. They wrote this:
"In the second period, he was elbowed in the head as Bennett - who was not penalized on the play - skated through the crease area. Stolarz immediately grabbed his head as he fell to the ice."

All of which is a true account of what happened.
It was in the second period
He was elbowed
In the head
By Bennet
Who was not penalized
In the crease area

All facts.

There have been columns written with a more skewed of the events, but that's a column, meaning it's opinion. The CP articles, of which there have been several follow ups since, are just reporting the events in a factual way.

What of anything did they say is factually incorrect?

I assure you there is no agenda at the CP to get your boy Sammy suspended.
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McMann takes a penalty, Barkov scores.

1-0 Cats.
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McMann picks Boqvist's pocket, Bob says no way.
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Kulikov flings it over the glass. Another PP Leafs.
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Pacioretty with the tip. 1-1.
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Absolutely HUGE goal!
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That was an impressive tip.
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Nobody had Pacioretty and Reilly on their bingo cards for big factors for the Leafs
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3 power plays for the Leafs in the first. What are they, the Oilers?
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Imagine actually being fooled by Leafs and Oilers theatrics.
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I want the Leafs to win this series. I want a Caps Leafs ECF.

I want the Leafs to get to the SCF.

I want the Leafs to lose in 7 to the Jets.
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And that is why we can’t root for the Leafs. It’s round 2 game 2 and their fans are already insufferable.

Just imagine if they were successful
I tried to cheer for them, but oh man, enough of the Savy Meter
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3 power plays for the Leafs in the first. What are they, the Oilers?
The difference is that Coiler power plays are often manufactured by obvious dives, embellishment, or McTemperTantrum grabbing opponents’ sticks and intentionally falling to draw the penalty…
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Marchand has proven to be an excellent deadline pick up. A lot of people were saying he was done (myself included). Au contraire, mon ami.
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