Making the playoffs or keeping our top-10 first round pick 2025?

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I don't disagree with the over strategy but what has Pelletier done to show he's a $3.5M player? Do you see that much improvement coming such that will be a good contract?

For me it would be based on the assumption that he continues to be a solid NHLer for the rest of the year. Maybe the number should be lower but it is more about just the idea of using their excess cap room now to buy years on the backend of the deal. If he looks like he is a 30-40 point player he would be a 3.5 million dollar guy imo.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

No rhe attendance.

People in Winnipeg don’t have any money.

[Paulie Walnuts]

We have Wolf to sign as well. He probably comes in at at 8AAV.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Explain Winnipeg

What do birds say when they fly over Wpg?

Answer: "cheap, cheap"


Also, bringing up Wpg doesn't make the argument you think it does

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

If I was Conroy I would be trying to sign the young RFAs to long term contracts. I would be doing this because he probably needs to spend about 20 million to reach the cap floor and even if the contracts end up being an overpay the rising cap will probably make the overpay somewhat meaningless in the future. I would be trying to sign the following types of contracts

Zary - 8 years 7.1 million a year (basically the Cozens contract)
Coronato - 8 years 6.5 million
Pelletier - 5 years 3.5 million

If the guys hit they will be value contracts when the Flames are ready to possibly sign UFAs and if they don’t they are likely still decent contracts in a 110 million dollar cap world.

I would then look and see if there was a UFA center that could be signed for 3 years or less. And a dman assuming they trade Rasmus.

Ooooooofff. Everyone complains about the Cozens contract and now want to hand it to Zary…. Zary hasn’t done anything close to what Cozens has and like it or not Cozens is a far superior player.

You are going to hand a 5 x $3.5MM deal to a player we passed through waivers and that has done nothing to show he has any staying power.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

Ooooooofff. Everyone complains about the Cozens contract and now want to hand it to Zary…. Zary hasn’t done anything close to what Cozens has and like it or not Cozens is a far superior player.

You are going to hand a 5 x $3.5MM deal to a player we passed through waivers and that has done nothing to show he has any staying power.

Or we could go sign some UFAs to reach the cap floor and then pay the young players we have bigger bucks when they prove what they can do and the Flames have less cap space. Either approach works.

The Bruins signed Marchand to an 8 year deal for basically the equivalent of about 8 million in today’s dollars after seasons of 61, 42 and 53 points. Each team approaches the cap differently.
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[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

Ooooooofff. Everyone complains about the Cozens contract and now want to hand it to Zary…. Zary hasn’t done anything close to what Cozens has and like it or not Cozens is a far superior player.

You are going to hand a 5 x $3.5MM deal to a player we passed through waivers and that has done nothing to show he has any staying power.

Yeah, 3.5M for Pelletier is insane

I wouldn’t even offer 1.5M

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Yeah, 3.5M for Pelletier is insane

I wouldn’t even offer 1.5M

Pelletier might not be in the league. Let alone a 5 year deal.

[Sylvanfan]

If you offer Pelletier 2 million a year and 5 years, is he really going to say no?

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

If you offer Pelletier 2 million a year and 5 years, is he really going to say no?

Probably - why would the Flames want that?

Pelletier needs to show he can stay healthy - he should be signing a Martin Pospisil special 2-year $1M AAV that makes it easy for him to stay on the NHL roster.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

If you offer Pelletier 2 million a year and 5 years, is he really going to say no?

Probably not, I did not put a tonne of thought into the 3.5 number. All Ibcare about is signing the young guys to term, using your excess of cap space now to save cap space later when you have less of it. Short term show me contracts would be the worst type of contracts to sign imo.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Probably - why would the Flames want that?

Pelletier needs to show he can stay healthy - he should be signing a Martin Pospisil special 2-year $1M AAV that makes it easy for him to stay on the NHL roster.

It was a response to the 3.5 thrown out before.

For a Pelletier type...shorter term for one or two more years is fine. If he pops and looks like a guy who's demanding 5 and can get it in two years..I think I'm okay with that.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Probably not, I did not put a tonne of thought into the 3.5 number. All Ibcare about is signing the young guys to term, using your excess of cap space now to save cap space later when you have less of it. Short term show me contracts would be the worst type of contracts to sign imo.

To me it depends on the player. I'm okay to do a 8 year deal for players 25 and under if they profile as sure top 4 type forwards. But for a guy like Pelletier...if he really pops after a 2 year show me...that's great. Better than needing to buyout 3 years.

[Enoch Root]

There is still half a season for him to get something going, but as it stands right now, Pelletier is looking at a Pachal-type contract: 2 years at $1 - 1.1M.

It isn't a certainty that he stays on the roster, so you don't want to be paying him more than the amount that is fully slidable to the AHL - which is what, $1.25M or so these days?

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Probably not, I did not put a tonne of thought into the 3.5 number. All Ibcare about is signing the young guys to term, using your excess of cap space now to save cap space later when you have less of it. Short term show me contracts would be the worst type of contracts to sign imo.

Signing young guys is good.

Signing young guys to long term contracts who may not be viable NHL players is bad.

You sign young guys to show me contracts when they need to show you they belong.

[NewFan]

I had high hope that Pelletier become one of the valuable member for our future team. But now he looks like to become a support player at his top. I think he is too small/weak to play bottom 2 line and not skilled to play top 2 line. May be he can become a player like Coleman but he needs to start to play better than now.
For now I would like to see Klapka instead of him. Klapka may help Zary and Sharky more than Pelletier.

[McG]

I can’t cheer for losses but recognize the upside.

I cheer for wins but recognize the downside.

Tankathon is an open tab in my browser; it’s better for the franchise to finish lower and retain the top 10 pick.

Lottery luck aside, this isn’t a bottom dweller top 3 pick team. Good.

A one time lower finish and the benefits of every round’s higher pick is the better franchise result.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by NewFan

I had high hope that Pelletier become one of the valuable member for our future team. But now he looks like to become a support player at his top. I think he is too small/weak to play bottom 2 line and not skilled to play top 2 line. May be he can become a player like Coleman but he needs to start to play better than now.
For now I would like to see Klapka instead of him. Klapka may help Zary and Sharky more than Pelletier.

I get the feeling Huska doesn’t like Klapka. Every time he comes up he gets minimal ice time and is quickly sent back down. I personally don’t think they use him properly. It seems Huska wants him to be a pseudo goon. But I get the feeling that’s not in his nature. He has half decent hands. I think he should be utilized as a power forward. Stick him in front of the net on the powerplay ect

[Paulie Walnuts]

I will sacrifice our 1st if they can please please please get rid of these freaking ads taking over my screen like some Russian spy bot.

[UnitedFlames]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

This has been discussed to death all season.

Wolf is the main reason we are winning more than expected. And that’s a very good thing.

I’m not sure what you expect the players to do.

I don't think Vladar is getting enough credit for his play this year. He's been a big part of it too.