[Trade] Flames trade Tanev (double retention) to Dallas for 2nd, cond. 3rd, Grushnikov

[Locke]

I am thoroughly whelmed.

[Sandman]

This makes me worried about the return we will get for Hanifin.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Matt Reeeeead

Almost no Dmen become impactful players when they can’t put up any offense in juniors, especially in multiple post draft years. Even most defensive style guys that make NHL put up something.

He’s a very low ceiling guy at this point, and would be a 5th or later round pick in a redraft of his draft year.


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What are you basing that on?

Considering that he is playing in the AHL at 20, I would say that alone puts him a fair bit higher than 5th round in a redraft.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

I said it before, this alone makes Conroy one of the better GMs in franchise history. In my 20 years of watching this team they've never shown this amount of long term thinking

Yup
And he is doing what he said he would
He said he wouldn’t walk these guys to free agency and he isn’t

[Igottago]

Good trade. People are way overvaluing Tanev's value. Yeah he's a warrior and a great guy. Doesn't mean he was ever going to fetch a first as a rental.

Very happy with how Conroy is operating. Out with the expiring assets and keep stacking up those futures. It finally seems like we have a GM playing chess, not checkers.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by Sandman

This makes me worried about the return we will get for Hanifin.

Isn't Artem Grushnikov the type of prospect you normally like?
Curious to see if you have anything on him.

[Patek23]

Originally Posted by Jetfire

People see the low scoring numbers and that he's ranked 10th in the Stars system and they inherently think he sucks or will never become anything. Pure, low-scoring defensive defensemen never show well in prospect rankings, but it sounds like this guy at the very least plays a steady pro game and is defensively sound, the latter of which isn't something you can say many of our prospects specialize in. Initial impressions, I think he's a fine prospect.

Pospisil was ranked 18th on our own metrics. These listings mean jack ####.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by bigrangy

Because 30 games of defensemen as good as Tanev has been worth more than a 2nd and a nothing prospect.

Yes an extra second is good, but this is another good piece sold at 80% of it’s value, just like Lindholm and Zadorov.

Cam Whynot is a better prospect than Grushnikov and this team didn’t even sign him.

Based on what?

[DomeFoam]

If the Flames targeted him, and the Stars drafted him (probably the best scouting staff in the league right now), there is likely a lot of redeeming qualities to this player. I'd much prefer a guy that is already proficient in his defence than a guy who needs to be taught it from the ground up once they enter pros.

[keenan87]

Okay, next up is Hanifin and Markstrom. Stock up on picks, drop in standings, and start building the team's core again.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I had this thought too.

Seems like a weird team to be the broker

Either highly coincidental or there's a reason it's NJ, who they've been in talks with for weeks.

[Rejean31]

Thanks for everything Chris. Go win a Cup and come back anytime. You are a warrior!!!!

[butterfly]

Conroy on 960 now

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Sandman

This makes me worried about the return we will get for Hanifin.

Why?

[Hockey-and_stuff]

There seems to be a big blind spot in Calgarys scouting department in that they keep targeting the same type of defenseman in Kuznetsov, Boltmann, Jurmo and now Grushnikov, players who have next to no chance of becoming useful NHL players, and expecting different results.

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[Dan403]

Originally Posted by bigrangy

Because 30 games of defensemen as good as Tanev has been worth more than a 2nd and a nothing prospect.

Yes an extra second is good, but this is another good piece sold at 80% of it’s value, just like Lindholm and Zadorov.

Cam Whynot is a better prospect than Grushnikov and this team didn’t even sign him.

Funny, but I trust Conroy’s assessment more than some no-name on CP.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Actually sad about this players departure.

Good luck with the Stars, Chris. I've found my playoff team it looks like!

Circle back in July!

[bluejays]

Can’t undo what was done in the past so it should heed the warning of walking these guys to free agency and the minimum return it could get. Anyone who’s a vet and a ufa next year should be thrown out there in the next week or dealt this offseason. Maximize all values.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Conroy on 960 now

Recap?

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Grushnikov isn't a flashy prospect. But I guess maybe he turns into a Tanev type player in the future.