No; More Canada Day Fireworks!!

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by you&me

I haven't been following closely, so maybe someone can help me understand:

The fireworks have been cancelled because of reconciliation and the Chinese Exclusion Act... But the fireworks are being replaced by some sort of "light show"...

So the event isn't cancelled, just modified... To me, that seems like the worst of both worlds.

They've must have decided that the noise and visuals of fireworks causes stress in the knowledge that you know people are celebrating something that hurts. Causes trauma as you can see it and hear it from a distance and are reminded of past hurt.

But a laser show, you can only see and 'hear' it if you're actually in attendance watching it. So it won't sadden the people that it would sadden. It's respectful.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by Slava

Is there actually a connection between residential schools and fireworks? I’m willing to say that I might have missed something and I’m happy to be corrected on that front.

I was on the Canada Day committee (eons ago) in Lethbridge and I don’t recall any complaints. I also have no recollection that last year or the year before a fireworks show was racist or anything of the sort?

I’ve never really had an issue with Yoho, but posting something that I agree with Sean Chu is a pretty low blow!

What? I always thought the fireworks on July 1st were to celebrate residential schools and the suffering of indigenous people in Canada historically?

God everything sucks now.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

They're noisy, there's smoke that's bad for the environment, causes problems in the ecosystem, they're expensive etc...

There are alternatives now with lasers and drones.

The noise and smell are my favourite parts. Laser and drone shows are boring. Just my opinion of course, some people probably like them.

To be honest though, the crowds have become way to annoying anyway, so I stopped going a few years ago.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

Sean Chu may be a moron, but I think perhaps a bit more thought than just "Sean Chu likes this, therefore it must be awful" should be put into it.

....maybe.........

[you&me]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

They've must have decided that the noise and visuals of fireworks causes stress in the knowledge that you know people are celebrating something that hurts. Causes trauma as you can see it and hear it from a distance and are reminded of past hurt.

But a laser show, you can only see and 'hear' it if you're actually in attendance watching it. So it won't sadden the people that it would sadden. It's respectful.

That actually, almost, kinda, sorta, makes some sense... I don't agree, but I can almost, kinda, sorta understand how someone would think that's a good idea.

"We're still going to celebrate this event that supposedly causes pain to some people, but we're going to do it on mute". Got it.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

God everything sucks now.

only if you let it

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by you&me

Why the #### would you want to "destigmatize" the term?

Academically, the professor's argument makes some sense. Essentially, claiming the difference between someone who is attracted to children vs. someone who acts on that. The argument is that people cannot control who/what they are attracted to.

I suppose you could claim that we shouldn't call people who think about killing someone a murderer, but only people who actually kill someone.

Practically, though, its a can of worms (to say the least)

In any event, it didn't stop anti-woke supporters from latching onto the professor's argument to say that every progressive now supports pedophilia.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Cappy

Academically, the professor's argument makes some sense. Essentially, claiming the difference between someone who is attracted to children vs. someone who acts on that. The argument is that people cannot control who/what they are attracted to.

I suppose you could claim that we shouldn't call people who think about killing someone a murderer, but only people who actually kill someone.

Practically, though, its a can of worms (to say the least)

In any event, it didn't stop anti-woke supporters from latching onto the professor's argument to say that every progressive now supports pedophilia.

Surely you aren't insinuating that all nuance is gone from political discourse these days?!?

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

They've must have decided that the noise and visuals of fireworks causes stress in the knowledge that you know people are celebrating something that hurts. Causes trauma as you can see it and hear it from a distance and are reminded of past hurt.

But a laser show, you can only see and 'hear' it if you're actually in attendance watching it. So it won't sadden the people that it would sadden. It's respectful.

Seeing all these white people walking around on their lands every day has got to hurt as well.

I'm all for banning white people from being visible out walking out in public. Would instantly ease road and sidewalk congestion maybe even shortening Costco check out lines.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

Sean Chu may be a moron, but I think perhaps a bit more thought than just "Sean Chu likes this, therefore it must be awful" should be put into it.

That's why I said "be cautious," not outright reject.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by chemgear

Seeing all these white people walking around on their lands every day has got to hurt as well.

I'm all for banning white people from being visible out walking out in public. Would instantly ease road and sidewalk congestion maybe even shortening Costco check out lines.

Maybe we could all just paint our faces to be less offensive looking?

[BlackArcher101]

Lets face it, the main reason the fireworks were cancelled was NIMBY'ism. The rich neighborhoods overlooking the fireworks always complained about the cars parking everywhere and the people that came with them. But you can't say that was the reason, which is why they came up with these half baked excuses that don't make sense.

Calgary doesn't have a good location for that many people to watch I guess.

[undercoverbrother]

Our neighborhood does fireworks to mark the end of the summer, generally the 2nd weekend in Sept.

[Yoho]

Vancouver

https://twitter.com/user/status/1661756511981547520

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by BlackArcher101

Lets face it, the main reason the fireworks were cancelled was NIMBY'ism. The rich neighborhoods overlooking the fireworks always complained about the cars parking everywhere and the people that came with them. But you can't say that was the reason, which is why they came up with these half baked excuses that don't make sense.

Calgary doesn't have a good location for that many people to watch I guess.

I have a friend who works at the City. I'm going to keep things totally vague so as not to jeopardize her position, but we were riding her hard in our group chat about this. She said Canada Day celebrations are overseen by a racism committee who are offended by everything. Their motivation to cancel the fireworks really did stem from their obsession with historical injustices.

[BlackArcher101]

Originally Posted by Sliver

I have a friend who works at the City. I'm going to keep things totally vague so as not to jeopardize her position, but we were riding her hard in our group chat about this. She said Canada Day celebrations are overseen by a racism committee who are offended by everything. Their motivation to cancel the fireworks really did stem from their obsession with historical injustices.

Amazing that we have a racism committee overseeing celebration planning. That's like HR planning an engineering project.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Sliver

I have a friend who works at the City. I'm going to keep things totally vague so as not to jeopardize her position, but we were riding her hard in our group chat about this. She said Canada Day celebrations are overseen by a racism committee who are offended by everything. Their motivation to cancel the fireworks really did stem from their obsession with historical injustices.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by BlackArcher101

Amazing that we have a racism committee overseeing celebration planning. That's like HR planning an engineering project.

Yes, her thoughts as well. Long meetings focused on going over how bad we are to all cultures, and 5% of the time dedicated to planning fun. This is the result.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by BlackArcher101

Lets face it, the main reason the fireworks were cancelled was NIMBY'ism. The rich neighborhoods overlooking the fireworks always complained about the cars parking everywhere and the people that came with them. But you can't say that was the reason, which is why they came up with these half baked excuses that don't make sense.

Calgary doesn't have a good location for that many people to watch I guess.

The rich neighbourhoods around Fort Calgary? Or Olympic Plaza?

[you&me]

Originally Posted by Sliver

I have a friend who works at the City. I'm going to keep things totally vague so as not to jeopardize her position, but we were riding her hard in our group chat about this. She said Canada Day celebrations are overseen by a racism committee who are offended by everything. Their motivation to cancel the fireworks really did stem from their obsession with historical injustices.

So is it that fireworks are specifically racist / historically unjust?

Because it would seem that a racism committee offended by everything would be more likely to just cancel the event entirely and not just modify the way the event was marked, i.e. with a "light show".