I would like to see that Rey is really the last jedi. centered between Darkness and Like, a new representation of a balance in the force like the Father, the Daughter and the Son. When she dies there are no more trained force users.
I would actually like this a lot. Let the force be something people have but don't really know what it is, and can't leverage into showy powers like Jedi or Sith did. My mind goes to how some Legends characters were force sensitive but didn't really know it, and it gave them a 6th sense. They'd have a "feeling" and know something wasn't right, or something was about to happen.
I would actually like this a lot. Let the force be something people have but don't really know what it is, and can't leverage into showy powers like Jedi or Sith did. My mind goes to how some Legends characters were force sensitive but didn't really know it, and it gave them a 6th sense. They'd have a "feeling" and know something wasn't right, or something was about to happen.
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But could the galaxy afford to have NO trained force users?
The force is something that isn't necessarily hereditary correct? So people will continue to be born with the ability to touch it. Over time with so many different variables such as upbringing, morals, location, environment etc.. there will be a multitude of different 'force users' and not all will be good. Isn't history just doomed to repeat itself if there isn't someone there to guide it that has learned from the mistakes?
If I was Rey I would be reforming a Jedi Council, and then making 3 movies intensely talking about the interworkings of all the politics.
When you have a galaxy of trillions and you have 10,000 jedi and 2 Sith running around. You create a entitled elitist class with all of the power.
The Sith never made it a secret that the strong should rule and the weak should serve, that was the natural order of things. The Sith also believed that those with the Force should rule to protect all of the ordinary beings from lawlessness and chaos.
The Jedi pretended not to be interested in power. But lets look at their past and even present. They were a rich and entitled monastic group that influenced and supported corrupt government all in the way of right minded thinking. They eagerly signed up in the clone wars not as soldiers but as Generals and Commanders. Not because of a threat to ordinary people, but because of a threat to the republic government which allowed slavery and exploitation of the outer ring. Also for the corporate alliances and banking clans to run the government.
Obi-Wan never said that his allegiance was to the Force, but it was an allegiance to the Republic and Democracy. But clearly democracy didn't exist and either the Jedi were ignorant or ignored it.
There really dosen't need to be a jedi council or Jedi organization. Snoke said it best "The Darkness rises and the Light with it". The combative nature of the force would mean that Ray would found a council and begin training Jedi and the Dark Side of the Force would rise against it. Then the Jedi would go to war to support their stiff dogma.
Ideally Rey should be the dark and the light. Be willing to break the rules of the Jedi but pull herself back from the edge of total darkness. Not aspire to power, but to justice and equality.
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enjoy a good CC analysis, though they always sound like they're from Palpatine's graduate thesis. if I were your professor I'd be tempted to strike you down before you had a chance to put your ideas into action.
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Isnt force gripping a whole group of sentient beings, such as families of frogs, against their will, a dark side trait?
Isnt Asoka supposed to be after Grand Admiral Thrawn after she learned of his location from that beskar spear wielding warlord? Seems like she's just bored if she's hanging out with Luke and Grogu
Isnt Luke being a bit hypocritical here by making Grogu choose between his ways of the force and his attachments to a loved one (the Mandalorian)? I mean the guy abandoned his training with Yoda to save his friendship attachments, Han and Leia. Now he's pushing this on Grogu? No wonder why Luke failed teaching Ben Skywalker and exiled himself to a secluded planet
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Pretty sure the show creators are aware of those things, like the hypocrisy of asking Grogu to choose. It probably just turns out to be a test, or Luke revises his approach afterwards when reflecting on his own decisions. Maybe Luke is going to get some character growth through the course of these shows, too.
The frog family thing, I'm not sure. Over the course of the franchise there's probably been a few instances by Jedi/light side users.
Anakin and Luke didn't receive permission or approval from their masters when they ran off to help their loved ones. at least Luke is giving what appears to be a legit choice. the answer should be pretty easy if you've got 850 years left, but babies have been known to make suboptimal decisions from time to time.
Episode 6 was incredible, hiring Shamook from YouTube and letting him run the deepfake division at LucasFilm has already paid off huge, and this technology is only going to get better! So many ways they can take this tech..
As for the Cad Bane entrance, DAMN he looks mean in live-action. He was always a badass in clone wars but with all the jedi/sith drama in the animated series he always felt to me like a bit of a lesser threat overall.. I think that's changed now.
A lot of force abilities are influenced by your emotions, Jedi of sufficient skill can use force lighting(electric justice is the name they use I think). So Luke lifting a dozen frogs or so is very much an acceptable display of power.
And I think Luke knows that letting Grogu live with Mando is the right move, he knows Grogu will live for a very long time and that we humans are almost mayflies in comparison.
I wonder if Luke or Ahsoka train Mando to use the dark Saber. There's an opportunity to write that in. Perhaps to give Grogu the best of both worlds for a period of time.
Also plenty of Opportunity for Boba to find out Mando knows where Luke's chilling out and have that little gem of a potential story line to manifest as well.
So much potential in how they're shaping up the SW universe.
All the way to maybe a trilogy in between 456 and 789. They're building up the timeline it seems.
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Darth Plagueis quotes
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“Evil? What is that? ...You said you were death itself. Are you evil, then, or are you simply stronger and more awake than others? Who gives more shape to sentient history: the good, who adhere to the tried and true, or those who seek to rouse beings from their stupor and lead them to glory? A storm you are, but a much needed one, to wash away the old and complacent and prune the galaxy of deadweight."
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“To say that the Force works in mysterious ways is to admit one’s ignorance, for any mystery can be solved through the application of knowledge and unrelenting effort.”
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“Tenebrous had told him from the start that the Republic, with help from the Sith, would continue to descend into corruption and disorder, and that a time would come when it would have to rely on the strengths of an enlightened leader, capable of saving the lesser masses from being ruled by their unruly passions, jealousies, and desires. In the face of a common enemy, real or manufactured, they would set aside all their differences and embrace the leadership of anyone who promised a brighter future. Could this Palpatine, with Plagueis’s help, be the one to bring about such a”
Sidious quotes from Dark Lord
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“For the moment it was enough that his advisers and minions respected him–for reestablishing peace, for eliminating the group that had posed the greatest threat to continued stability–but eventually those same advisers would need to fear him. To understand the great power he wielded, as both Emperor and Dark Lord of the Sith. And to that end, Sidious needed Vader. For if someone as potent as Vader answered to the Emperor, then how powerful must the Emperor be!”
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"Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…"―Darth Plagueis[src]
At the end of the day, you could argue that the death of the Jedi was the will of the force. The Jedi by taking up arms in a war around a corrupt government was their doom. If they had refused to fight, Sidious' plans wouldn't have come to fruition. We know that the Jedi's ability to use the force was compromised. They said so themselves. Meanwhile Sidious was still able to see the future and execute his plan. the Jedi dying out was the will of force, the Sith was right the Jedi had to die.
The problem with Sidious was as brilliant as he was, as powerful in the Force as he was. He had severe personality disorders. He liked to kill, he never learned that lesson from Plageius that the Sith were not mere murders, they were willing to kill for the proper reasons though.
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I'm thinking Thrawn will be a Mando season 3 finale entrance.
Spoiler!
I'm excited to see how well Shamook & co de-age our favorite scruffy lookin' Nerfherder next week.
And sounds like Emilia Clarke has been busy of late from her social media. I suspect she pops by too.
I think they're going to leave that for the Ashoka series where she goes off with Sabine to find Ezra in the unknown regions. I also think they stumble across the fledging first order out there and they can retcon it so Thrawn is one of the founders.
I was also thinking about Grogu and his fate.
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Rey: Something inside me has always been there. But now it's awake. And I'm afraid. I don't know what it is or what to do with it. And I need help. Luke Skywalker: You need a teacher. I cannot teach you. Rey: Why not? I've seen your daily routine. You're not busy. Luke Skywalker: I will never train another generation of Jedi. I came to this island to die. It's time for the Jedi to end.
That last sentence is pretty emphatic. There are no more trained Jedi, Luke is the last, when he dies they die.
I expect that Grogu is going to choose the Force, and he's going to die.
Either that or he's in one of the knights of Ren outfits. They never answered the question around Kylo, when Luke basically said that Kylo fled with some of his students and burned the temple. Does that mean they were knights, or something else.
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If only the prequels were adapted from the novels rather than the other way around, we might have gotten a universally well regarded trilogy out of it. It's probably why you get more enjoyment out of those films, because your brain is filling in all the missing details that George wasn't interested in fleshing out himself.
You're right. The funny thing is that there was a trilogy of novels based around the events leading up to the end of the republic that were fantastic.
Labyrinth of Evil by James Lucerno was immediately before the kidnapping of Palpatine and follows Anakin and Kenobi on one side and Windu on the other side as they close in on Darth Sidious. Its a fantastic fast paced well written novel.
Revenge of the Sith by Mathew Stover - This is why Revenge of the Sith could have easily been two novels. The conversation between Anakin and Palpatine where Palpatine reveals he's the Sith Lord was fantastic and far beyond, I can save your wife. It addressed Anakin's flaws as a jedi and a person. The conversation after Anakin betrays the Jedi and is feeling the guilts and Palpatine explains why what he did was admirable. Also the segements called This is what it feels like, that drills into the heads of all the characters was great. Anyone that loves Star Wars but didn't like ROTS should read this book.
Dark Lord - Again by James Lucerno addresses the immediate after affect of not only Anakin's actions but Sidious. We see the rise of Vader from a guilt ridden unsure Anakin to an absolute monster. At the same time we see Sidious consolidating his power and justifying why he did what he did.
The New Disney EU books are frankly pretty bad, the sad thing is I've given up on the new EU stuff. Book like the Bane serious, Plageius book, and the Clone Commando books plus several other that filled in the blanks in the prequel era were all strong, and written by strong writers.
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I think they're going to leave that for the Ashoka series where she goes off with Sabine to find Ezra in the unknown regions. I also think they stumble across the fledging first order out there and they can retcon it so Thrawn is one of the founders.
I was also thinking about Grogu and his fate.
That last sentence is pretty emphatic. There are no more trained Jedi, Luke is the last, when he dies they die.
I expect that Grogu is going to choose the Force, and he's going to die.
Either that or he's in one of the knights of Ren outfits. They never answered the question around Kylo, when Luke basically said that Kylo fled with some of his students and burned the temple. Does that mean they were knights, or something else.
And Luke seems to be aware that Grogu could spend 50 years with Mando and have 800 plus to still master the force if he wants to.
It seems really somewhat off to me.
Mando felt that Grogu needed to 'be with his people' meaning the Jedi, but Grogu has never really exhibited any behaviour to indicate that he actually wants to learn how to use the Force much less 'become a Jedi.'
He is the Proverbial Football at the moment. They want to keep him out of the hands of Moff Gideon so they cant perform experiments or whatever on him and drain his blood, but that doesnt mean you can force Grogu to become a Jedi.
And...seeing as we basically know what happens however many years in the future and there is no sign of Grogu maybe he doesnt become a Jedi.
Grogu just doesnt want to be a Jedi.
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I've always wondered about how the Jedi would react to a untrained youngster wanting to leave the Jedi, and how Luke's school would deal with that.
fine there were a lost 20 all masters that left. We know at least 2 Darth Ruin and Darth Tyrannus were lost 20. But how do you handle a untrained youngling or padawan or even a knight that leaves. I mean that's equivalent to letting an atomic bomb out on the streets.
And Luke knows that his father left the Jedi becoming a monster and Dooku becoming a Sith. Later Ben Skywalker left the order and became far worse then a Sith. A pouty emotionally unstable Emo murderer.
So what happens if Grogu, decides not to become a Jedi, does Luke go, fine go and try not to become a generational level dark side out of control murderer. Or does he arrange a light saber training accident?
I mean its funny, a Jedi can excuse any horrible action, murder, mayham, killing a student that doesn't want to be a Jedi as the will of the Force.
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it's almost like the Jedi are a meta commentary on real life religions
They very much are based on the rigid unchanging doctrines or nearly every church.
I do think that they were really based on the Jesuits though.
As heroic as some of the individual Jedi were in the Republic era Jedi, as kind or good as some of the individuals might have been. The Jedi like the Catholic Church lives in a gold plated palace, awash in money, supporting a corrupt and unfeeling government.
The Jedi Order is the real villain of the GFFA and Luke was right, in their hubris they allowed evil to rise and were complicit in the suffering of trillions.
Anakin/Vader even said it in Dark Lord. He wanted to save Padme from death and Obi-Wan from ignorance. He wanted to reform the Jedi to rid the republic of corruption and war and suffering and people going through what he went through growing up.
Even in the Revenge of the Sith book during the duel, Anakin basically told Obi-Wan that he should flee, go and spend the rest of his life meditating. Anakin before he got what he felt was betrayed by his master didn't want to kill the only true father figure that he had in his life.
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