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Old 12-21-2021, 09:43 PM   #261
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I feel pretty bad about it. It's on the same level as Muppet and both should probably be banned from this forum because they are so terribly insulting and insensitive.
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My point is that these kinds of things are common. Getting development permits, building permits, occupancy, subdivisions - none of this is “set in stone” like some folks seem to think a contract implies.

As for the muppet comment, yeah, if you’re complaining about your taxes going up at the same time as wanting the city to foot the bill for what should be a 100% privately funded arena, you’re a muppet and you don’t understand the first thing about fiscal responsibility.

How many times will this ownership group threaten to leave before everyone just tunes them out? Leave or don’t, stop wasting everyone’s time. This deal was bad, it got worse, and it’ll continue to get worse. The city never should have agreed to it in the first place.

Please, this is an idle threat, and I was pissed with them back when they were all over Bill Smith, and I haven’t dropped a nickel in that building since and likely never will again.

Could you talk down to us some more please....you are really good at it.

You are so full of crap.

As to the second bold...see ya. Door on ass and all that.

You are not and have not been a fan of the hockey team for years now. So no loss for them or anyone that cares about NHL hockey in Calgary.

No idea what happened to you, but there is a lot of room for people that actually care about the club to be around......those that don't? Get lost.
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Why is this all being aired on social media.
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Old 12-21-2021, 09:48 PM   #264
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Why is this all being aired on social media.

This is the way. Politicians and billionaires are in love with Social Media and the court of public opinion.
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Old 12-21-2021, 09:49 PM   #265
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This board is hella toxic. Isn't the point of a forum to have discord and discussion?

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Now who’s condescending?
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Now who’s condescending?
Yeah but he didn't call you a Muppet so it's okay when he does it.
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What makes you say that?
Look at her reaction to Chu. Refused to swear him in, appealed to the Alberta government to remove him.
Her urgent motion to debate legislation in Quebec and asking council to pledge $100,000.
Her declaration of a state of climate emergency.
She did these things, publicly, apparently before consulting with those who would know if she has a case.
The Alberta government had to inform her removing Chu was not in their authority.
Donating to to oppose legislation in Quebec seems ill-conceived.
Declaring a state of climate emergency without consulting the very businesses she relies on(Oil and Gas).
These all seem very knee jerk and emotional.
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okay, pump the brakes and get back on topic.
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Old 12-21-2021, 09:52 PM   #270
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Why don't you just call her shrill while you're at it?
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Old 12-21-2021, 09:53 PM   #271
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Murray Edwards lives in Switzerland now, right? I believe this is the second time he has moved, primarily for tax purposes (first was to London).
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She's been pretty terrible to date IMO, but in this instance, I agree with her position.

Thank god CSEC's yes-man Davison didn't win.
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Old 12-21-2021, 09:55 PM   #273
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Now who’s condescending?
Not me.

I understand the finances quite well. Muppet and all.
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Old 12-21-2021, 09:56 PM   #274
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Might be the most condescending post in the history of this board...and I have been around for all of them.

Hope you feel better one day.

Muppets eh?

Wow.
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Disappointed it took three pages of vitriol for a mod to do anything.
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Old 12-21-2021, 09:57 PM   #275
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I’d just like to point out that Murray doesn’t have an arena in Houston. So I’d chill on the relo talk.

Does he want to sell? No clue.
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Disappointed it took three pages of vitriol for a mod to do anything.
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Old 12-21-2021, 09:57 PM   #277
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What this sounds like to me, is city administration coming up with new building permit fees relating to newer city policies in place, nothing to with the arena specifically, but something covering all new permits.

The city applied the policies to the building permit, and offered to even cover some of them.

A $650 million project has quite a few million dollars in various permit fees.

Perhaps it should have been budgeted for, but it sounds like these may be newer fees put in place by administration for all projects.

It isn’t the city trying to renegotiate the deal, it’s just applying it’s policies.
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Old 12-21-2021, 09:57 PM   #278
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When your partner is doing business in bad faith (changing the deal at the 11th hour), you shouldn’t be in business with that partner.

Gondek then coming out and saying the Flames are pulling out of the deal while she changes what that deal is reeks of politician garbage.

Is the City even a partner in this or just a bank account?
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Old 12-21-2021, 09:58 PM   #279
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Flames aren't going anywhere. A deal will be reached, but the taxpayers will end up being soaked.

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Look at her reaction to Chu. Refused to swear him in, appealed to the Alberta government to remove him.
Her urgent motion to debate legislation in Quebec and asking council to pledge $100,000.
Her declaration of a state of climate emergency.
She did these things, publicly, apparently before consulting with those who would know if she has a case.
The Alberta government had to inform her removing Chu was not in their authority.
Donating to to oppose legislation in Quebec seems ill-conceived.
Declaring a state of climate emergency without consulting the very businesses she relies on(Oil and Gas).
These all seem very knee jerk and emotional.
Woman does things man doesn’t agree with.
Man says woman is emotional and knee jerk.

Has man given any consideration to her reasoning or the timeframe over which she made those decisions?
Nope.
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