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Old 02-21-2021, 12:28 AM   #261
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Anyways.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9UFyISYVnfw

Enjoy. Great way to remember when flames cared about being outclassed
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Reading on Twitter and watching video. Apparently Gelinas came over to tkachuk as he was cheering on Bennett during the fight and tapped him on the shoulder to tell him to stop encouraging it. Also reported by Friedman.


If true... wtf fire everyone! If we can’t cheer for teammates fighting then I’m done with this team
If this is true, get rid of Gelinas too.
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Old 02-21-2021, 12:28 AM   #263
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Good take by the first overtime caller Mike. The Flames aren’t skilled enough to outskill the Lightning, they’re not tough enough to outlast the Blues, they’re not fast enough to keep up with the Habs, etc. What is the identity? Pick something and be the best at it. They’ve got 1 or 2 players that excel in each of these areas but as a whole they just end up mediocre.
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The team is fragile AND they (coaches and management and I guess radio guys) want the players to be the ones who kind of drive the bus. They want the players to take charge of it themselves but they can't currently. No one is stepping up.

Someone take control of this mess. No more talking. What's the Jordan quote?

- some want it to happen, some wish it to happen, others make it happen.

Nobody is making anything happen. No one is taking control. Everyone is looking for someone else to do something. Get up! Have some pride and purpose!!

This is awful.

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Old 02-21-2021, 12:34 AM   #265
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How does anyone know what Gelinas said though? Seems very TMZ

What if he said "do that next time you destroy someone with a hit"
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Ward might was well bring out the old adage “there’s no better springboard to success than failure.”
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Reading on Twitter and watching video. Apparently Gelinas came over to tkachuk as he was cheering on Bennett during the fight and tapped him on the shoulder to tell him to stop encouraging it. Also reported by Friedman.


If true... wtf fire everyone! If we can’t cheer for teammates fighting then I’m done with this team
If that's true then oh my God. I have no words
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Anyways.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9UFyISYVnfw

Enjoy. Great way to remember when flames cared about being outclassed
I was at that game!
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If that's true then oh my God. I have no words
Still trying to find clip. I’d imagine possible to find tomorrow. Was Friedman post game
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Old 02-21-2021, 12:38 AM   #270
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What has Gelinas accomplished all these years as an assistant anyway? What’s he known for? Do players love the guy? Is he a good liaison to Ward?

They all need to go.
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The team is fragile AND they (coaches and management and I guess radio guys) want the players to be the ones who kind of drive the bus. They want the players to take charge of it themselves but they can't currently. No one is stepping up.

Someone take control of this mess. No more talking. What's the Jordan quote?

- some want it to happen, some wish it to happen, others make it happen.

Nobody is making anything happen. No one is taking control. Everyone is looking for someone else to do something. Get up! Have some pride and purpose!!

This awful.


When some good leaders lead people, they listen to what their team members have to offer, figure out the game plan, lay it out to the team, and the leaders magically end up succeeding within the framework they structure

It’s not a coincidence. Delegating leadership is an art and involves the delegates executing against the vision

Players who step up and lead are doing the coach’s bidding. They are aligned to the vision and execute because they think it’s their idea and own it
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Anyways.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9UFyISYVnfw

Enjoy. Great way to remember when flames cared about being outclassed
I know were not supposed too but I miss fighting (I also miss fully juiced tour de France), I'm surely not fit for polite company
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Robert's calling in to 960 now.
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Still trying to find clip. I’d imagine possible to find tomorrow. Was Friedman post game
Is it a clip of Gelinas actually doing it or it's a clip of Friedman said Gelinas doing it. I have no confidence on anything Friedman say anymore, he seems to like to stir for the sake of stirring .
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Robert: You said this is about to snowball, Patty? The bus is on the cliff. It's about to go over.
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Old 02-21-2021, 12:44 AM   #276
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First of all thanks for these. Not shooting the messenger at all.

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Tried to capture some quotes from the Ward presser. Disclaimer - there are probably a lot of mistakes.

"It doesn't take talent to play away from the puck, it takes desire."
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"The effort is there, the detail is there."
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"We have to pay attention to those things and make sure we're taking charge of it. ... "The details need to be better"
So...which is it, Geoff? Ward is just going through the cliche Bingo card at this point.
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The team is fragile AND they (coaches and management and I guess radio guys) want the players to be the ones who kind of drive the bus. They want the players to take charge of it themselves but they can't currently. No one is stepping up.

Someone take control of this mess. No more talking. What's the Jordan quote?

- some want it to happen, some wish it to happen, others make it happen.

Nobody is making anything happen. No one is taking control. Everyone is looking for someone else to do something. Get up! Have some pride and purpose!!

This is awful.
The Flames have one leader on the team and he has apparently been told to tone down his emotion. Says everything about the makeup of the team.
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Old 02-21-2021, 12:45 AM   #278
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Robert's calling in to 960 now.

Lol this dude is upset.
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Lol this dude is upset.
Robert is pushing for the "blow-it-up" scenario. Saying - the Islanders lost Tavares to free agency, but won with a good coach. Do the Vegas model from the goaltender out.

Pat - If they're going to rebuild, need to make a significant trade from the core. How do you do that when the core isn't playing well? Can something be done during this COVID season? How do we get good value for our talent?
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Robert is everyone right now.
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