03-15-2020, 10:16 AM
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#261
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Aarongavey
This has nothing to do with the players. The owners are unwilling to put up the money for their employees, despite the fact that 50 percent of anything the owners put up would come out of the players pockets anyways.
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The last part is not accurate. Players and teams split revenue, not profits. Whatever is contributed by either party comes out of only their share.
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03-15-2020, 10:17 AM
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#262
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aarongavey
This has nothing to do with the players. The owners are unwilling to put up the money for their employees, despite the fact that 50 percent of anything the owners put up would come out of the players pockets anyways.
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Sorry, how is 50% of this coming from the players?
The players are getting paid in full.
As of Thursday CSEC employees are receiving zero. If ownership contributes more, it’s beyond HRR.
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03-15-2020, 10:25 AM
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#263
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Scoring Winger
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Calgary flames won’t pay their hourly staff during Covid-19
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Originally Posted by cam_wmh
Sorry, how is 50% of this coming from the players?
The players are getting paid in full.
As of Thursday CSEC employees are receiving zero. If ownership contributes more, it’s beyond HRR.
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The players will see a larger amount withheld from escrow due to the list revenues... ultimately they will be losing a lot of their paycheque because of this.
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03-15-2020, 10:29 AM
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#264
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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edit oops wrong thread
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03-15-2020, 10:37 AM
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#265
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL
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It would be a great troll job for Kassian to donate
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03-15-2020, 10:41 AM
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#266
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Funkhouser
It would be a great troll job for Kassian to donate
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He needs to save his money cause he's probably going to continue losing it to suspensions.
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03-15-2020, 10:42 AM
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#267
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by troutman
Mike Bell never minces words:
Crickets from the usual suspects. Lil’ #14. Millionaire prick with oily perm and floral shirts. And ####ing shill with a keyboard #flames #payyouremployees
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Who is referring to other than fleury?
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03-15-2020, 10:52 AM
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#268
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: In the whites
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Brett Wilson and Francis I assume.
Without any context seems sort of random.
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03-15-2020, 10:52 AM
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#269
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Vox
The last part is not accurate. Players and teams split revenue, not profits. Whatever is contributed by either party comes out of only their share.
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Clubs are allowed to subtract direct costs from HRR for employees that contribute to a revenue activity. That would be the vast majority of these employees. They cannot include the coaches, scouts, accountants, doctors, physics but they can include the concession workers, the ushers, etc. As they contribute to a revenue generating activity.
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03-15-2020, 10:57 AM
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#270
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by hixxes
Brett Wilson and Francis I assume.
Without any context seems sort of random.
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Right. Perm with the floral shirts... that makes more sense. Oh wait I misread. Also calling out fleury? Weird.
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03-15-2020, 10:58 AM
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#271
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Matt Reeeeead
The players will see a larger amount withheld from escrow due to the list revenues... ultimately they will be losing a lot of their paycheque because of this.
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Revenues are not the same thing as Net Income.
None of this would come out of the players pockets.
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03-15-2020, 11:01 AM
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#272
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Guy in Vegas Golden Knights jersey at the flames game in the dome doesnt look so dumb now I guess
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03-15-2020, 11:02 AM
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#273
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: MOD EDIT: NO
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The Edmonton Oilers and the Vancouver Canucks have donated to the gofundme ahahahaha!!
#shametheflames
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03-15-2020, 11:03 AM
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#274
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In Your MCP
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Watching Hot Dog Hans
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03-15-2020, 11:04 AM
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#275
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Deep South
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I see my Flames account Rep Aaron Vilaca has contributed to the fund.
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03-15-2020, 11:04 AM
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#276
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by #-3
Revenues are not the same thing as Net Income.
None of this would come out of the players pockets.
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Yes it would because owners are allowed to deduct direct costs. For parking under the cba owners are allowed to deduct salaries related to the running of the parking lot. For concessions they are allowed to deduct salaries of vendors and food preparers, novelty sales they are allowed to deduct labour and other indirect costs, publications like the in game magazine they are allowed to deduct labour costs, club internet they are allowed to deduct salaries. For most of these wages the players would be paying 50 percent of them.
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03-15-2020, 11:07 AM
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#277
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Ray you’re famous. I hope you get mentioned in Sid’s (of Tim and Sid, not the Kid) inevitable raging rant.
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A Calgary Flames fan is raising money for hourly and event staff at the Scotiabank Saddledome whom the team's ownership group won't be compensating during the hiatus resulting from the coronavirus pandemic.
Raymond Lau, a longtime season-ticket holder and former hourly employee at the arena, started a GoFundMe on Saturday night after learning that Calgary Sports and Entertainment Corporation was choosing not to pay relevant workers for the lost shifts.
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https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1964902
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03-15-2020, 11:08 AM
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#278
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Scoring Winger
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Calgary flames won’t pay their hourly staff during Covid-19
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Originally Posted by #-3
Revenues are not the same thing as Net Income.
None of this would come out of the players pockets.
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I literally do the accounting for the Flames for this and am trying to explain (factually) how it works. I’m not going to get into specific details, but the players absolutely are going to see a higher escrow rate, and therefore reduced salaries if the games and especially playoffs are missed. Net HRR is split between owners and players, and net HRR will go down significantly with a month of games and entire playoffs missed.
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03-15-2020, 11:09 AM
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#279
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hixxes
Brett Wilson and Francis I assume.
Without any context seems sort of random.
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Oh, I thought the last one might have been Rick Bell.
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03-15-2020, 11:11 AM
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#280
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt Reeeeead
I literally do the accounting for the Flames for this and am trying to explain (factually) how it works. I’m not going to get into specific details, but the players absolutely are going to see a higher escrow rate, and therefore reduced salaries if the games and especially playoffs are missed. Net HRR is split between owners and players, and net HRR will go down significantly with a month of games and entire playoffs missed.
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No wonder you hated Neal so much! 
(Unless I’m misremembering)
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