[News] Bill Peters resigns as head coach. No longer part of Flames org. Ward interim HC

[Mccree]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Brad was very emotional in the press conference.


Brad got savaged by Jeff Merrick of the Hockey Central Panel. He basically wanted the Flames to accept full responsibility for the hire and that there needed to be a reckoning and that this whole thing was too lawyered up.



What an idiot.


The biggest thing to me is that Brad stated unequivocally that he considers the actions closed.


I would expect that the next step is between the league and Peters and we're looking at a long term ban for Peters and a requirement to apply for reinstatement.

Wouldn't Carolina need to share some of that too. What a bad take by Merrick.

[Scorch]

[MOD EDIT] Once again, over the line.

[taxbuster]

I thought Brad was quite emotional. He covered it well, but one could tell he was quite distraught by the entire set of events.

Questions from the media -- I guess we know why some of these guys work in media (the womens' questions were much better)...boneheaded and repetitive, and mostly nonsensical things to ask. Pinder particularly came off looking bad; that was simply a dumb thing to ask.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by Ark2

I remember a little while back, Bill Maher said the N-word during his show. He ended up getting some heat for it but it eventually subsided and he continued on with his career. If you lean left, your racist behaviour generally gets a pass. Since Bill Peters is in an apolitical profession (for the most part) there is no pass. If you are looking for a rule or a guideline as to who can get away with what, that's it.

That is an incredibly simplified overview of the Maher incident in comparison to this one to come to a very faulty conclusion.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Even if they could I don’t think the Flames want the headline to read “Flames GM calls out coach he hired as racist”.

There’s no reason for the flames to play into that headline.

Oh I agree, yet the media I suspect will use the word "racist".

[Flame On]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Part of the settlement is likely to be that the Flames are prohibited from making negative comments about peters publicly.

Agreed. Maybe that'll be punted on to the NHL to do the ground work on that. And they should.

[JJolg]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Brad was very emotional in the press conference.


Brad got savaged by Jeff Merrick of the Hockey Central Panel. He basically wanted the Flames to accept full responsibility for the hire and that there needed to be a reckoning and that this whole thing was too lawyered up.



What an idiot.


The biggest thing to me is that Brad stated unequivocally that he considers the actions closed.


I would expect that the next step is between the league and Peters and we're looking at a long term ban for Peters and a requirement to apply for reinstatement.

Is Merrick the plug that tried to break that Peter's was fired a few days ago?

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Ducay

...Obviously he'll work again, but this whole cancel culture is garbage. I certainly don't blame the Flames for firing him though, they literally have nothing to gain by taking his side and giving him a second chance and forgiveness (like they should). Hopefully this trend is over soon.

No. Just no.

There are some things that are not simply wiped away with an apology, and this is one of them. I am all for absolution, forgiveness and reconciliation, but there are times when the offending party must suffer severe consequences for his reprehensible actions, and need to then demonstrate contrition and a pattern of change and sincere improvement before all is forgiven and forgotten. This is one such instance. This should now be Bill Peters's focus. After having lost his job as a result of his totally unacceptable behaviour, he should now be expected to rehabilitate his own character before absolution occurs.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

So if Peters in the last 10 years reformed himself and never said another racist thing again he would keep his job today? I don't think so. He's paying the price today for something he did in a different decade.

A few things.

One, Peters had the chance to apologise to Aliu in his office in Rockford. He doubled down, and sent the kid to the ECHL and torpedoed his career. Had he said '####, Akim, I'm sorry. I crossed a line, and this is something that I will regret for the rest of my life. How can I make this right?' this isn't an issue.

Two, if Aliu goes public back in 2009, Bill Peters doesn't get hired in Detroit, Carolina or here. His NHL career over, he'd have spent the last decade in Russia.

I think Justin Trudeau is a limp-wristed phony, but I don't think going overboard at some costume parties is comparable. Robert Downey Jr got an Oscar nomination for playing an actor who overcommits to a role and dyes his skin brown, in 2008. I myself went to my freshman Halloween party in college as Jules Winnfield - I realized very quickly that I had ####ed up, and went home and changed.

What I didn't do, and what Trudeau didn't do, is scream the most volatile racial slur in the western world at a black man in front of his colleagues to demean him.

There are levels of unacceptable. What Peters did is a SSJ4 unacceptable.

[OmegaV4]

Originally Posted by Scorch

Is anyone else disappointed that it didn’t end with the Flames FIRING Cross Burning Bill? This was a moment for the Flames to make the statement that they won’t put up with this crap?

Settling for an X amount with a resignation just seems to harm the Flames organization than a Firing

I have a very strong feeling that they wanted to, but something legally in the background probably prevented that.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Flame On

Jesus can't believe the first thing I read in this thread is about Trudeau.

People talking about the rightness of Peters keeping his job? He resigned, probably the biggest cop-out for all parties. The Flames won't even say what he said was "racist". Not a very good wrap up.

They called it repulsive, that's a pretty strong condemnation to me.

[Jiri Hrdina]

The problem is when guys like Merrick, who are hockey experts try to offer commentary about subjects they aren't experts in (e.g. employment, how to terminate employees, contract law, etc). Instead they should be getting actual experts on air to evaluate how the Flames and Tree handled this.
That's the right way to cover this.
Then there's the lazy way.

[Torture]

Originally Posted by Scorch

Is anyone else disappointed that it didn’t end with the Flames FIRING Cross Burning Bill? This was a moment for the Flames to make the statement that they won’t put up with this crap? Settling for an X amount with a resignation just seems to harm the Flames organization than a Firing

Nope. Same result so who cares how you label it?
We all know it wasn't really a voluntary termination.

[sureLoss]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1200476088327127041

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Flame On

Jesus can't believe the first thing I read in this thread is about Trudeau.

People talking about the rightness of Peters keeping his job? He resigned, probably the biggest cop-out for all parties. The Flames won't even say what he said was "racist". Not a very good wrap up.

Cost Peters his career, what more do you want

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Nm

[Torture]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

The problem is when guys like Merrick, who are hockey experts try to offer commentary about subjects they aren't experts in (e.g. employment, how to terminate employees, contract law, etc). Instead they should be getting actual experts on air to evaluate how the Flames and Tree handled this.
That's the right way to cover this.
Then there's the lazy way.

Couldn't agree more.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by OmegaV4

I have a very strong feeling that they wanted to, but something legally in the background probably prevented that.

Yeah there was the inconsistencies of the story between the two parties. Peters stating he apologized immediately, AA saying he didn't.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Cost Peters his career, what more do you want

Blood!

[flambers]

Originally Posted by OmegaV4

I have a very strong feeling that they wanted to, but something legally in the background probably prevented that.

In my opinion i bet the resignation was also a move calculated by a lawyer.