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smiggy77 · 03-08-2019, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TBone290

Honestly, it was a hyperbole. I am capable of understanding where they are in the standings. I'm disappointed more than pissed off. But slumps don't feel good; it feels like doom and gloom. So I'm just expressing what came to mind.

Step away from the ledge big guy, it's gonna be okay.

Doom and gloom is not a way to live life. We're still first place lol

FlamesFanTrev · 03-08-2019, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Its less the PDO and more the shooting percentage that Bingo is talking about.

Flames have a shooting percentage of 8.4% on the year. Seems highly unlikely that this 4% shooting percentage (which would be 2.6% worse than every team in the league) is going to be an ongoing issue.

Yeah but if you are suddenly taking low quality chances more often, shooting percentage will drop. The problem isn't the shooting the percentage has dropped because they are unlucky, it's the quality of the shots that are being generated. They have also been unlucky, which is also compounding the problem.

I missed most of the game last night, but the three before that, the passing has been abysmal, pucks played into guys feet or behind them. It's hard to generate speed on the breakout when you're constantly having to stop moving your feet to take a pass. It hasn't been crisp at all, and that's why, in my opinion at least, why they have been getting so many perimeter shots. If can't enter the zone on the rush, and your opponent has 5 guys in the zone junking up the middle, then perimeter is all you get.

Itse · 03-08-2019, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bingo

A team shooting 4% five on five with a PDO of 93% is going to be fine.

PDO doesn't actually even out over time, at least in any consistent way.

If it's bad, it can easily stay bad.

It's not a measure of "luck".

The Cobra · 03-08-2019, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Itse

PDO doesn't actually even out over time, at least in any consistent way.

If it's bad, it can easily stay bad.

It's not a measure of "luck".

it's doesn't always even out completely, but you'll see as the season goes on, and you get a larger sample size, the difference from 100 become less.

From memory, most will fall between 98 and 100%. None ever stay at 93% for a season.

No one keeps getting a 4% shooting percentage.

Erick Estrada · 03-08-2019, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by The Cobra

No one keeps getting a 4% shooting percentage.

Tell that to James Neal. It's not impossible can last for a duration of a season. That said I do expect that over the coming weeks the Flames will get a bit more puck luck but the concern to me is not the lack of luck but the perimeter hockey of late that mirrors how they played under Gulutzan. That has nothing to do with luck or PDO. It's a team not willing to go into the dirty areas and score the greasy goals. It's players that don't have confidence in what they are doing so they overthink, overpass, attempt perfect shots, etc. They need to get past this if they are going to get back to the loose team that was lighting the lamp on a regular basis.

868904 · 03-08-2019, 10:09 AM

This Flames team scored some really nice goals throughout the season. Now that it's essentially playoff time, nice goals become less and less as time and space disappears.

Gaudreau isn't playing any worse, everyone is just checking and skating harder to defend. He isn't the only skill player to hit a wall when it comes to production.

Look around the league, a lot of smaller and soft skilled players aren't producing as well as they did earlier in the season. The small and skilled players with jam are having greater success, see guys like Zucker (Doh!).

This was the concern with the Flames all year long, is how will their game play in the playoffs. Gaudreau wasn't going to keep his production up and he's straw that stirs the drink for Mony and Lindy and to some extent Chucky on the powerplay.

The hope was that guys like Neal and Bennett would pick up the offensive production come playoff time, but Neal is injured and Bennett has been a huge disappointment during this stretch.

If Bennett isn't going to be a physical force during playoff time or when the game gets tight like it is now, then they might as well trade him, cause his production isn't going to be worth keeping around.

Toonage · 03-08-2019, 10:10 AM

The team performed up to a certain standard for the better part of 5 months. I have a hard time believing that was the outlier and this is the norm.

Teams play a different way this time of year. More defensive. I get that. To suggest that its only the Flames who can't adjust to changes in opposition also seems far fetched.

zamler · 03-08-2019, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dino7c

Its the 7th of March...home ice in the playoffs is a lock. Saying "team is done" is beyond stupid

And if you actually believe that why watch or comment on the game. Its called a slump...playoffs are a month away

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Originally Posted by dino7c

I'm not some blind homer...I criticized the Flames most of last season and a lot over the lean years.

Its just mind bottling when people who thought they were a bubble team are freaking out over the first real slump of the entire season.

Anyway I am out, feel free to post whatever makes you feel better...I will do the same

I'm curious why you think the Flames have 1st place locked up? San Jose is 1 point back with a game in hand saying Calgary is a lock seems like homerism to me.

Enoch Root · 03-08-2019, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by zamler

I'm curious why you think the Flames have 1st place locked up? San Jose is 1 point back with a game in hand saying Calgary is a lock seems like homerism to me.

He said 'home ice'. First or second gives them home ice (in round one)

zamler · 03-08-2019, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

He said 'home ice'. First or second gives them home ice (in round one)

Still don't think the Flames have home ice locked up not the way they are trending. I'll feel much better if Calgary gets their mojo back, even if they lose I want to see the team that was humming along before the break. No advanced stats can convince me the team is playing good hockey right now.

djsFlames · 03-08-2019, 10:29 AM

I think the entire trip could have gone differently if that 1st period Vegas goal wasn't called off. I think getting screwed on that call seeped into the collective psyche of the team after the setbacks over the weekend had them a bit fragile mentally. Probably felt like they couldn't buy a break, and that ended up being exactly the case the rest of the way.

Ebbs and flows, but if the league weren't incompetent f###s I think the boys would've carried the momentum they had to start the trip and would've got points out of it.

Enoch Root · 03-08-2019, 10:31 AM

Vegas is 10 points back of them with 14 games to go. They'll be fine.

FlamesAreOne · 03-08-2019, 10:41 AM

At least the new episode of One Timer's with Gio and Smith will help cheer people up.

Erick Estrada · 03-08-2019, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Vegas is 10 points back of them with 14 games to go. They'll be fine.

I don't see the Knights catching the Flames but it would be nice to have them and the Sharks beat each other up while the Flames face a wild card team. The scenario of splitting the first two games in Calgary and heading to Vegas (an arena they haven't won in) would not be very appealing.

Flash Walken · 03-08-2019, 10:53 AM

anyone have a gif or clip of the bennett injury?

Robbob · 03-08-2019, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by zamler

Still don't think the Flames have home ice locked up not the way they are trending. I'll feel much better if Calgary gets their mojo back, even if they lose I want to see the team that was humming along before the break. No advanced stats can convince me the team is playing good hockey right now.

If Vegas goes 10-4-0 the Flames would still clinch home ice if they went 5-9-0 as long as 4 of those wins were in regulation. More than likely I would think.

dino7c · 03-08-2019, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by zamler

I'm curious why you think the Flames have 1st place locked up? San Jose is 1 point back with a game in hand saying Calgary is a lock seems like homerism to me.

I said home ice not first place....you should know considering you are quoting me multiple times

Split98 · 03-08-2019, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by flash walken

anyone have a gif or clip of the bennett injury?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1103876161489133569

Flash Walken · 03-08-2019, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Split98

https://twitter.com/user/status/1103876161489133569

Damn.

That looks like a concussion.

I hate that stupid cut-back move.

The Cobra · 03-08-2019, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Tell that to James Neal. It's not impossible can last for a duration of a season. That said I do expect that over the coming weeks the Flames will get a bit more puck luck but the concern to me is not the lack of luck but the perimeter hockey of late that mirrors how they played under Gulutzan. That has nothing to do with luck or PDO. It's a team not willing to go into the dirty areas and score the greasy goals. It's players that don't have confidence in what they are doing so they overthink, overpass, attempt perfect shots, etc. They need to get past this if they are going to get back to the loose team that was lighting the lamp on a regular basis.

I am, obviously, talking about a team, not a player.