What is Mark Jankowski?

[Karl]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Is Janko unlucky when he doesn't even have 20 shots on goal all year?

Exactly. That's not really unlucky, that's generally not good enough. In fact, in many cases that's pressbox worthy type of play.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by drewtastic

Darren Haynes is savage.


https://twitter.com/darrenwhaynes/st...034982912?s=21

We were all thinking it

[Dion]

Janko is an excellent penalty killer.

[ForeverFlameFan]

I think the thread should now be switched to Where than What.

[sempuki]

When does Weisbrod give us a 2nd for him?

[TheScorpion]

The thing that's just super weird about Jankowski is that he's basically stopped shooting the puck at all.

He had 99 shots last year and 118 the year before.

This year, through half the season... he has 19 shots. And it's not like his ice time has been cut in half or anything... he's down from 12:42 to 10:51. A definite reduction but not that significant.

What is different is that his offensive zone starts are down from 52% to 41%. His possession results have been much improved this year. He's a defensive gem -- his results in his own zone are superb, according to HockeyViz's shot visualizations. He clearly has an area of strength.

But his number one offensive quality is his shot. And it's just not working for him this year. He's not getting into any dangerous scoring positions. Not at all. And I just don't understand why.

It's astounding to me. He doesn't give the puck away much, he has almost double as many takeaways as giveaways, he's fine at faceoffs, he doesn't take bad penalties... but he also just doesn't shoot the puck anymore. Is it because of his linemates? His deployment?

Part of me wonders if he needs more offensive zone starts to succeed, but he needs to do more first with what he's given to get those opportunities. Who knows if that will happen if he only generates one shot every other night.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by drewtastic

Darren Haynes is savage.


https://twitter.com/darrenwhaynes/st...034982912?s=21

Link broken or tweet removed, what’d it say?

[activeStick]

Poor Jankowski. Rinne scores a goal and it's Jankowski who gets torpedoed on social media

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Link broken or tweet removed, what’d it say?

Pekka Rinne just passed Mark Jankowski in goals

Darren tweeted it pretty much right when Rinne scored... Obviously felt bad about it afterwards and deleted it since

[transplant99]

I don't get why Haynes would feel bad about an actual factually correct statement. Weird.

The guy has to be upgraded on though. Yeah he had a couple good PK shifts but that is not good enough to keep an NHL roster spot.

Other guys on the team have to be wondering why he is still with them as well. I know they are all pulling for him but at some point things have to be dealt with. Two guys on the farm, minimum, deserve a look in his spot.

Hard to fathom how he got to this point so quickly and out of no where, but here we are.

[Eric Vail]

Jankowski sure gets a lot of sympathy from some members of CalgaryPuck.

[Firebot]

Originally Posted by Eric Vail

Jankowski sure gets a lot of sympathy from some members of CalgaryPuck.

I don't get the love for one player. I would love for him to match what he did last year or better, but he clearly has made 5 steps back in every part of his game. It's like he really doesn't care to play right now.

Jankowski is butter soft, the only two players who have less hits are Gaudreau and Ryan (one less). Jankowski has 11 hits to his name. He is 6'4 and his size should be one of his advantages.

Mangiapane has 46 at 5'10, Dube has 26 and is 5'11.

https://www.hockey-reference.com/tea...l_stats_adv_rs

Jankowski has 1 point in 37 games (Rinne has triple the points), and literally dead 2nd last in the NHL for point per games played (a defenceman).

He has a 46.6 FO percentage.

He has 20 (!) shots on goal for the year. Alan Quine is the closest other player to him at 12 and he played 9 games.

These type of stats shouldn't even be possible for a regular NHLer, especially one playing over 10 min a game average. There are 20 goalies with the same amount of points or more than Jankowski and they save pucks.

So he can kill penalties? He's good in putting his long reach to have a stick in the passing zone. That makes him an NHLer?

The guy is atrocious right now and a negative on the team. He needs to go back to the AHL to regain his confidence if anything, but the total lack of effort is what really annoys me; players can contribute in other ways if struggling and he is not. He is not an NHL player this year and he needs to be demoted.

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by Firebot

I don't get the love for one player. I would love for him to match what he did last year or better, but he clearly has made 5 steps back in every part of his game. It's like he really doesn't care to play right now.

Jankowski is butter soft, the only two players who have less hits are Gaudreau and Ryan (one less). Jankowski has 11 hits to his name. He is 6'4 and his size should be one of his advantages.

Mangiapane has 46 at 5'10, Dube has 26 and is 5'11.

https://www.hockey-reference.com/tea...l_stats_adv_rs

Jankowski has 1 point in 37 games (Rinne has triple the points), and literally dead 2nd last in the NHL for point per games played (a defenceman).

He has a 46.6 FO percentage.

He has 20 (!) shots on goal for the year. Alan Quine is the closest other player to him at 12 and he played 9 games.

These type of stats shouldn't even be possible for a regular NHLer, especially one playing over 10 min a game average. There are 20 goalies with the same amount of points or more than Jankowski and they save pucks.

So he can kill penalties? He's good in putting his long reach to have a stick in the passing zone. That makes him an NHLer?

The guy is atrocious right now and a negative on the team. He needs to go back to the AHL to regain his confidence if anything, but the total lack of effort is what really annoys me; players can contribute in other ways if struggling and he is not. He is not an NHL player this year and he needs to be demoted.

Yeah, when goalies are outscoring an NHL regular ( a forward at that) that is just embarrassing. You'd think just by virtue of being on the ice he'd have at least accumulated a few assists - it's mind boggling to me.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Eric Vail

Jankowski sure gets a lot of sympathy from some members of CalgaryPuck.

I think a lot of people still associate him with Feaster, and a lot of people didn't like that Feaster was fired. See also Sven as a Feaster proxy.

People used to say "yeah, he didn't get a lot of value for Iggy and Jaybo but his hands were tied" and "the ROR thing would have been decided in the Flames' favour". But moving from 14 to 21 and then picking Janko was a bad decision and could only be defended if Janko lived up to Feaster's prediction. As it turns out, all but maybe two of the six picks from 14-20 are better than Janko, and they are not just a little better - Wilson, Hertl, Teravainen, Vasilevsky. And the other two (Ceci and Zemgus) are probably more useful.

[Anduril]

He has looked like a player that just doesn't want to touch the puck. In the defensive zone, I rarely see him engaging in the boards. Some of it is being the 'centre' and covering the slot as would be his responsibility. The rest just seems to be watching what happens rather being a catalyst of creating opportunities, defensive or otherwise. Especially when you have other guys like Lindholm and Ryan who are smaller but still end up causing turnovers and breaking up plays, you end up wondering what Jankowski hopes to achieve when he does get to be put on the ice beyond 'not screwing up'.

[DeluxeMoustache]

It’s bizarre.

Last year was the first year of his two year contract, and basically a 4th line C with 32 points, +6, solid on the PK including 5 SHG and 8 SHP (!) That is pretty darn close to being able to be called excellent. That seems like a guy who was developing, really found a niche, and should have been playing for a raise after this year.

I know nearly everyone on the team has taken a step back, but this is very surprising.

His confidence is shot, for sure. His decision making in the O zone last night was terrible. Bad passes under little pressure and immediate loss of the zone.

I don’t get it. But it really raises questions of not only the player but also of the coaching staff. He is capable of more. Why are they getting nothing out of the guy?

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

Originally Posted by Hackey

Still waiting for him to be the best player from the 2012 draft.

At the very least, he is arguably better than the first, second and fourth overall picks (but that doesn't say much).

[Tyler]

Only one logical explanation - girl troubles

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I think a lot of people still associate him with Feaster, and a lot of people didn't like that Feaster was fired. See also Sven as a Feaster proxy.

People used to say "yeah, he didn't get a lot of value for Iggy and Jaybo but his hands were tied" and "the ROR thing would have been decided in the Flames' favour". But moving from 14 to 21 and then picking Janko was a bad decision and could only be defended if Janko lived up to Feaster's prediction. As it turns out, all but maybe two of the six picks from 14-20 are better than Janko, and they are not just a little better - Wilson, Hertl, Teravainen, Vasilevsky. And the other two (Ceci and Zemgus) are probably more useful.

Wait.

People liked Feaster?

The guy who made it embarrassing to be a flames fan for a few years... that Feaster?

Traded Iggy, Bouw and Robyn for a bunch of trash?

The guy that drafted Jankowski?

Mr. Intellectual honesty and other rubbish?

Probably a bottom 3 GM in team history and that's saying something.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

I was a defender of Janko, at least in respect of preaching patience, as I think it was fairly understood that he was a project and required time to mature. (Notwithstanding the dopey "best player" comment. If Feaster really meant that, wouldn't he have taken him at our original draft position?).

The pick seemed ok at least. Less games played than most, but in or around 45-50th in points. This year though, blech. He has one point and it isn't as if he is snakebitten. From what I have watched, he deserves to have about one point. He simply does not have enough other attributes to make him a worthwhile NHLer.