Should Treliving Acquire Iginla by Mar 1?

[Moneyhands23]

Only if it costs a 6th rd pick

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by dustygoon

I don't bet on sports, but you make me want to. So let's ignore your pens and hawks. I'll take Ducks and Washington to be in finals. You take Columbus and Calgary if they make it since it's a crap shoot and all.

And why are the number of teams likely looking to bring him in small in number? There you go not making sense again. It's the cost to acquire him that matters. Not whether he is at top of his game or the final inning. If the asking price is a 6th rounder and Colorado keeps half of salary or takes salary back, you don't think he has several teams after him? Wake up

You are out to lunch and you have been since your first post in this thread.

This all started with your drive by post:

He wants to win a cup. Why are the flames a fit again?

I said (very simply) that he's already tried to pick the top teams in a given season favoured to win the cup and that hasn't worked because it's a crap shoot.

I then pointed out it's a smaller market now that he's an aged player.... followed by the fact I think you're under-selling Calgary's chances should they get in.

I'm not going to waste any further time with your deluded ramblings.

My point is a simple one: I think with Calgary in a playoff position, it's a good fit were there interest from the Flames side and that there won't be a lot of competition because a lot of playoff teams are up against he cap and or have already made a trade.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Table 5

Simply, this team doesn't have a Jonathan Quick (or Kipper) to gloss over mistakes.

That, and a Sutter to will them through to greatness.

Legitimately nothing to say that can't be Elliott and Gulutzan.

This team is improved under Gulutzan, and Elliott is trending in the exact right direction to make a huge performance in the playoffs possible.

I'm not saying that's what is going to happen, but to categorise this team as a Cinderella team and say the 2012 LA wasn't is nonsense. Maybe this team makes some noise, maybe they don't, but they're competitive and stand as good of a chance of making it past the second round as most of the teams in the West. They stack up very well against a few teams ahead of them. What happens after that? Who knows.

[troutman]

“Nostalgia, that’s why you’re here, You’re a tourist in your own youth.” - Sick Boy in T2

[FireGilbert]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

I totally understand why you'd hate it. any normal flames fan would.

but it would really ruin the love you've had for him as a player? just playing a handful of games at the end of his career?
I honestly don't understand that part of it.

Ference went from being one of my favourite players to one of my most hated after a few games in an Oilers jersey. It's not a stretch to say I would no longer be a huge Iggy fan if he waived to go to Edmonton.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Iggy can munch popcorn and yuck it up in the press box with his old pal Connie. Don't think he gets into the line-up.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by troutman

“Nostalgia, that’s why you’re here, You’re a tourist in your own youth.” - Sick Boy in T2

There is only one T2.

[Lanny'sDaMan]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

There is only one T2.

"I now know why you cry"

[mrdonkey]

Watching tonight's game, it really stuck out to me that since Wideman became essentially useless, we are missing a booming one-timer on the power play. I think Iggy at a low acquisition cost is looking more and more enticing to help that aspect of things, since it's the one part of his play that hasn't diminished with age.

Gio's shot is ok, and Brodie/Dougie are way better with backhanders and wristers, respectively. Another deadly one-timer is sorely needed.

[dammage79]

I think cammys shot is deadlier. And I feel he's more likely to find a Johnny pass on the rw. Besides, I think Gaudreau plays better to a LH/RW. I think what I am saying is, I'd prefer a cammy like trade than an Iggy trade still.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I think cammys shot is deadlier. And I feel he's more likely to find a Johnny pass on the rw. Besides, I think Gaudreau plays better to a LH/RW.

I'd love to see Cammy back, but with him - he has two years left on his deal after this season. We definitely can't take a 5M cap-hit on for those years (Backlund's extension), and I'm not sure New Jersey would retain 2.5M for each of the next two years, and if they did - I imagine it would cost the Flames a pretty penny to get them to do that.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I'd love to see Cammy back, but with him - he has two years left on his deal after this season. We definitely can't take a 5M cap-hit on for those years (Backlund's extension), and I'm not sure New Jersey would retain 2.5M for each of the next two years, and if they did - I imagine it would cost the Flames a pretty penny to get them to do that.

Very true.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I think cammys shot is deadlier. And I feel he's more likely to find a Johnny pass on the rw. Besides, I think Gaudreau plays better to a LH/RW. I think what I am saying is, I'd prefer a cammy like trade than an Iggy trade still.

Gaudreau and Wideman were good together when Wideman had that year two seasons ago. I don't think it mattered which hand though. Gaudreau was just good at the area pass to the right point side.

[Dajazz]

Iginla is about as done as it gets - physically or mentally doesn't matter, but he's a shell of himself.

This is a very costly and emotion based experiment only to satisfy the most nostalgic fans.

He he'll be cheap to acquire but there's this thing called opportunity cost. It's what you could do with that roster spot/cap space/draft pick instead.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by Dajazz

Iginla is about as done as it gets - physically or mentally doesn't matter, but he's a shell of himself.

This is a very costly and emotion based experiment only to satisfy the most nostalgic fans.

He he'll be cheap to acquire but there's this thing called opportunity cost. It's what you could do with that roster spot/cap space/draft pick instead.

"very" costly? a 5th or a 6th round pick isn't costly imo...we're talking about a rental for a roll of the dice at that #

zero impact on roster spots (unless sitting one of bouma/chiasson/hathaway counts as long term damage). Same with cap.

its a gamble, like any trade is... characterizing as 'very costly' is assuming the acquisition costs are north of the 5th round pick...and if it goes that way, then i would agree...but less than a 5th? I wouldn't consider it as costly at all

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

"very" costly? a 5th or a 6th round pick isn't costly imo...we're talking about a rental for a roll of the dice at that #

You mean you've confirmed that Colorado isn't asking any more than that, and won't trade him to a higher bidder? Bring him on!

zero impact on roster spots (unless sitting one of bouma/chiasson/hathaway counts as long term damage). Same with cap.

You mean Iginla isn't being paid any money for the rest of the season? Bring him on!

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

You mean you've confirmed that Colorado isn't asking any more than that, and won't trade him to a higher bidder? Bring him on!



You mean Iginla isn't being paid any money for the rest of the season? Bring him on!

like i said, if its more than a 5, then i agree that it is too much to pay...

as for the salary, sorry, didn't realize you were paying it? if there are no other acquisition made, then why does it matter?

"Bring him on"? LOL

What are you? 12?

you have your opinion, others have theirs. acting like an ass doesn't help your argument

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

like i said, if its more than a 5, then i agree that it is too much to pay...

as for the salary, sorry, didn't realize you were paying it?

There's this thing called the salary cap. Perhaps you've heard of it.

if there are no other acquisition made, then why does it matter?

That's the problem. Other acquisitions need to be made. If getting Iginla interferes with that, it's a bad move.

"Bring it"? LOL

What are you? 12?

I said ‘bring him on’. What are you? Illiterate?

you have your opinion, others have theirs. acting like an ass doesn't help you argument

Making up your own facts doesn't help yours. The ideas that (a) he will only cost a 5th-round pick, (b) adding him will have no cap implications, and (c) the team has no desire to make any other deadline moves, are all your own assumptions and you have done nothing to support them. In fact, (b) is provably false and there are multiple press reports contradicting (c).

[oldschoolcalgary]

except that the poll is "Should Treliving Acquire Iginla by Mar .1 if the price is reasonable"

that presumes that posters provide a guess at what they deem as being 'reasonable'...

so, plenty of people have provided an example of what they consider as a reasonable cost of acquisition. I said 5th round, others have said 6... others have suggested something else.

if the flames do acquire Iggy, by definition, it means that management has deemed it a move they feel is necessary above other moves

just because you don't agree, being patronizing towards someone's opinion is not necessary... especially on a speculative thread that probably has no chance of happening

[Dajazz]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

"very" costly? a 5th or a 6th round pick isn't costly imo...we're talking about a rental for a roll of the dice at that #

zero impact on roster spots (unless sitting one of bouma/chiasson/hathaway counts as long term damage). Same with cap.

its a gamble, like any trade is... characterizing as 'very costly' is assuming the acquisition costs are north of the 5th round pick...and if it goes that way, then i would agree...but less than a 5th? I wouldn't consider it as costly at all

A roster spot is a roster spot is a roster spot.

Same with cap space.

Same with picks.


I'd rather spend picks and space on a player that will contribute. I can't find any hockey reason to do this trade, none.

I don't buy a broken car because it's cheap. It doesn't work, I don't need it, it's pointless. Even for two dollars it would still take up space on my drive way.

Bringing in Iginla is not a hockey trade, just admit it. I understand the nostalgia and "hey let's win the cup for him" thing, but he ain't Bourque on a stacked Avs team. He's a guy that has scored 8 goals this year playing butter soft minutes and PP costing 5.5M...

It's ok, I understand you, but running a business or a hockey team based on emotion is probably not the best thing.