11-01-2016, 03:55 PM
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#261
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Originally Posted by northcrunk
Anyone know what happened in practice between Wideman and GG? Seems like they were yelling at each other according to rodger millions.
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GG: Move your legs!
DW: No.
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11-01-2016, 04:08 PM
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#262
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Bandwagon In Flames
I didn't realize Brodie was some prospect who is still fine tuning his game... You guys are talking about him like he wasn't the best player on the team last year.
This experiment is costing us points and Giordano goals. It might be early but Gio is on pace for less than half his goal total and Brodie less than half his point total.
Brodie playing with Giordano let's Giordano play his game. That's not happening and as a result neither player is looking elite this year.
Yeah it might sound like a great plan to have players work on their weaknesses. It would be super if none of our players had ANY weaknesses. But I like to live in reality.
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Johnny says hi.
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11-01-2016, 04:53 PM
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#263
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
GG: Move your legs!
DW: No.
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GG: Move your legs!
DW: I am
GG: Dear God
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11-01-2016, 06:12 PM
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#264
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Originally Posted by Bandwagon In Flames
Yeah it might sound like a great plan to have players work on their weaknesses. It would be super if none of our players had ANY weaknesses. But I like to live in reality.
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Yeah, why try?
26 year old defencemen are past their prime anyway. Couldn't possibly improve between ages 27 and 30.
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11-01-2016, 09:35 PM
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#265
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sector 7-G
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Dave Cameron, how much longer do you give him to work with the special teams? Its been a momentum killer and ultimately a deciding factor in the flames losses.
Gotta think Treliving is feeling a bit of heat with his hires floundering to start the season.
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11-01-2016, 09:37 PM
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#266
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Lifetime Suspension
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I liked the 4 forwards on a powerplay systems.
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11-01-2016, 09:37 PM
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#267
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Otto-matic
Dave Cameron, how much longer do you give him to work with the special teams? Its been a momentum killer and ultimately a deciding factor in the flames losses.
Gotta think Treliving is feeling a bit of heat with his hires floundering to start the season.
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I feel bad for Treliving. He usually makes the right moves on paper, including some pretty big blockbusters. The GMs job is to put the best team possible on paper and then the team is supposed to execute from there on in. But the special teams has been brutal. And the sad thing is that other then a couple seasons here and there, it's been like that for years. ####ty special teams is all I know as a Flames' fan. And it sucks.
Imagine how nice it must feel to cheer for a team that when it gets a PP, you just know it will get it's chances and strikes fear in the oppositions heart. Or when a big PK is needed in the dying minutes, you have faith it will come through.
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11-01-2016, 09:40 PM
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#268
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Grew up in Calgary now living in USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Otto-matic
Dave Cameron, how much longer do you give him to work with the special teams? Its been a momentum killer and ultimately a deciding factor in the flames losses.
Gotta think Treliving is feeling a bit of heat with his hires floundering to start the season.
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Some folks have to learn the hard way. I know communication is important but maybe more focus should have been on "winning" coaches and assistants. You need guys that have been there before and know how to get results. So far this season has been a process of many failed experiments. I think having one good communicator is good but the rest of the hires should have been guys with winning track records.
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11-01-2016, 09:55 PM
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#269
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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I hate how Gulutzen feels the need to reinvent every wheel. We've hired Dallas Eakins everybody
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11-01-2016, 10:25 PM
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#270
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: The toilet of Alberta : Edmonton
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It's painful to think what we might look like if we had brought in Boudreau. Minny has looked real good and outside of elite goaltending, on paper, this roster looks comparable.
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11-01-2016, 10:50 PM
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#271
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Originally Posted by MisterJoji
It's painful to think what we might look like if we had brought in Boudreau. Minny has looked real good and outside of elite goaltending, on paper, this roster looks comparable.
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I think Tre & Burkie want a coach they can control and who is not established and can take orders.
Hence the Gully hiring.
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11-01-2016, 11:09 PM
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#272
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Vancouver
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The three minutes to go goalie pulling is the one that gets me. I know it worked for Roy a couple times a few years back, but good lord. In that stretch of time the opposition is guaranteed to get the puck at some point.
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11-01-2016, 11:19 PM
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#273
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by The Professor
The three minutes to go goalie pulling is the one that gets me. I know it worked for Roy a couple times a few years back, but good lord. In that stretch of time the opposition is guaranteed to get the puck at some point.
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You're 2 goals down. You need 2 goals just to tie it.
Statistically speaking, that is the best time to pull the goaltender if you are trying to win hockey games.
If you just want the loss to look less embarrassing, by all means pull the goalie at 1:30.
Of course, with the way the Flames are handling the puck with an extra man on the ice, it wouldn't matter much.
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11-01-2016, 11:22 PM
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#274
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Why do people get upset about an empty net goal. Might as well try to win. Odd thing to get worked up about
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11-01-2016, 11:27 PM
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#275
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
Why do people get upset about an empty net goal. Might as well try to win. Odd thing to get worked up about
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This is the only thing that doesn't bother me. You need 2 goals and 2 minutes is not likely to get it done. Scientifically, 3+ minutes is the right call. Shortening the time limits the chance you get scored on, but also limits your chance of scoring too.
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11-02-2016, 07:13 AM
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#276
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterJoji
It's painful to think what we might look like if we had brought in Boudreau. Minny has looked real good and outside of elite goaltending, on paper, this roster looks comparable.
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Boudreau was never going to take the Flames job. The last think he would want to be on is this coaching carousel. The guy had his pick of teams.
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11-02-2016, 07:26 AM
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#277
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Boudreau was never going to take the Flames job. The last think he would want to be on is this coaching carousel. The guy had his pick of teams.
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Why not? He stated that he had not been contacted by the Flames so all we know is that one party wasn't interested and was the Flames. He ultimately would have had to choose between the Flames and Wild so it would probably had been 50/50 had the Flames been interested. Regardless we will never know but it could end up regrettable for the Flames franchise that they didn't even bother exploring the possibility. All time top 5 winning percentage head coaches don't come around often and I think that's a tire any organization looking for a head coach has to kick if only to pick his brain in an interview.
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11-02-2016, 07:40 AM
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#278
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Franchise Player
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I know we all love the +/- stat but it's been over 10 games now. GAudrea, Monahan, brodie are tied for the second worst in the entire league at -8, while the remainder of the team is quite good in this stat (even or better) it's telling that these players are individually not right.
Your could put that on coaching, but most others on the roster seem to doing fine.
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11-02-2016, 07:47 AM
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#279
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bubbsy
I know we all love the +/- stat but it's been over 10 games now. GAudrea, Monahan, brodie are tied for the second worst in the entire league at -8, while the remainder of the team is quite good in this stat (even or better) it's telling that these players are individually not right.
Your could put that on coaching, but most others on the roster seem to doing fine.
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Could be that old habits die hard. Iginla always felt he had to play a certain way to be effective and had trouble buying into concepts that infringed his ability to generate offense. It's possible that right now Gaudreau, Monahan, Brodie and Gio are the square pegs that are struggling to grasp that the team success doesn't hinge entirely on their offensive prowess.
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11-02-2016, 09:27 AM
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#280
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Alpine Fisher
I think Tre & Burkie want a coach they can control and who is not established and can take orders.
Hence the Gully hiring.
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I would hope not. That is exactly the system that Edmonton had in place for about 10 years and we all saw and laughed at the results it generated. I would hope that our management team isn't as stupid as Edmonton's.
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