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Old 02-22-2016, 05:01 PM   #261
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Well you didn't get one, so why move him.

Jim Benning is not very good at his job.
"Hey Brad, it's Jim Benning here. Do you have a defenceman that you would trade for Shinkaruk?"

"Um, I think Markus Granlund plays defence. How about him?"

"Done!"
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And well, Shinkaruk was bad last season and the year before. He's had a good season this year. Things change.

Though I've still heard he's a jerk.
I've known him since well pre-draft. Didn't think he'd last to us then. Hope he proves Van wrong now.
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If they were looking for a defensemen we should have give them Smid.
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Old 02-22-2016, 05:03 PM   #264
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Complete steal for Calgary. Grandlund was a depth forward at best and got us an actual prospect. Cool.

BUT....another small player that has been brought in during the Burke/Treliving regime.
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Old 02-22-2016, 05:03 PM   #265
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I'm pumped. I actually like his kid. He's got the right tools, and can finish. I hope he has a good camp, and makes the cut.
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Old 02-22-2016, 05:03 PM   #266
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Benning says Weisbrod knows the "character" of Baertschi and Granlund. Says he "relied on" him to supply info on Granlund's "intangibles."
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Old 02-22-2016, 05:04 PM   #267
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Complete steal for Calgary. Grandlund was a depth forward at best and got us an actual prospect. Cool.

BUT....another small player that has been brought in during the Burke/Treliving regime.
You're not gonna be happy until they trade Gaudreau for a 6'5 plug and call up Hunter Smith, are you?
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Old 02-22-2016, 05:04 PM   #268
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Nothing wrong with this trade. The Flames are trying to balance their talent pool, they're too natural center heavy, so they traded for a guy that's played both wings.

Hunter looks like he's trending up Granlund really looked like he was starting to stagnate here.

Plus the Flames get a player who's waiver eligible for longer.

I'm not blown away by Shinkaruk by any stretch, but this is a dice role trade, gambling from a position of strength to address a real weakness on this team.
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Old 02-22-2016, 05:04 PM   #269
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Treliving will be on Fan 960 in 10 minutes.
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Old 02-22-2016, 05:05 PM   #270
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Some highlights


Thanks for those.
Dude has an odd stride and shot in some of those. I don't know if it's genius edges and release or just horrible, but on occasion he looks sorta stiff legged and shoots like he's playing road hockey.
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Old 02-22-2016, 05:05 PM   #271
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Why? They just added a solid prospect to the pool.

It's bigger than trading a pending UFA for a 3rd round pick would have been.
Sure it is bigger than trading a pending UFA for a 3rd round (I don't consider that big either)

But for me a big trade is more along the lines of moving one of your main parts. A 1st or 2nd line player.

Neither of these two are that. We deepened our prospect pool.
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Granlund is not very good.
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Old 02-22-2016, 05:06 PM   #273
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Benning says Weisbrod knows the "character" of Baertschi and Granlund. Says he "relied on" him to supply info on Granlund's "intangibles."
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Old 02-22-2016, 05:06 PM   #274
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Nice to see Spencer is on the team.

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Old 02-22-2016, 05:06 PM   #275
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I get it from a Flames perspective.

If I hadn't watched Benning GM the Canucks for the last couple seasons I wouldn't get it from a Canuck perspective, but I have watched, so I do get it.

They are trying to fast track a rebuild by acquiring Baertschi/Etem/Granlund type players. I don't think it's going to work, and eventually they will have to blow it right up.

I wish I could wish Granlund all the best, but I really can't now that he's a dirty disgusting Canuck, so that sucks, but that's the way the cookie crumbles sometimes.

Hopefully Shrinky develops into a star for the Flames.
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I'm pumped. I actually like his kid. He's got the right tools, and can finish. I hope he has a good camp, and makes the cut.
He'll have an excellent chance. With the way things are shaping up, there are plenty of potential openings for next season.
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crumbles sometimes.

Hopefully Shrinky develops into a star for the Flames.
Hopefully this doesn't stick.
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Old 02-22-2016, 05:10 PM   #278
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I've always liked Granlund, but he's too small for bottom 6 and not skilled enough for top 6. Worth the gamble IMO.
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Old 02-22-2016, 05:10 PM   #279
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If Shinkaruk reaches his ceiling, he’ll develop into a Jeff Skinner type – undersized winger with superior edge control and offensive instincts.
Despite that potential, Shinkaruk hasn’t convinced some scouts he will be an impact point-getter in the NHL. “I see a kid with skill and quickness – the puck doesn’t slow him down – and I have no issues with his compete level, but he needs to add strength and win battles,” a scout said. “He can be pushed off pucks with ease and also has trouble getting inside. I see more of a future third-line guy than a top-six. Don’t think he has the elite skill to beat guys at the next level, so he is going to have to get stronger and use his speed to be a good two-way player.”
Shinkaruk’s elite skating ability and willingness to defend will eventually lead to a spot in the NHL. If he doesn’t develop as the Canucks hope, he’ll still be a useful third-liner who can score 30-plus points and forecheck with vigor.
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Hunter Shinkaruk, Calgary Flame: "Right now I’m just so excited. I’ll have a smile on my face, ear-to-ear, all day. It’s been great.”

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Shinkaruk (cont): "That chance to put on that jersey, that jersey that I watched and looked up to is pretty cool." #Flames

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First person Shinkaruk called after learning of the trade? His mom: "She was crying she was so excited." #Flames
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