Up to 2,300 Syrian refugees expected in Calgary over the next six to eight weeks

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...mid-ISIS-fears

Really? We're using the Express as a source now? What, you couldn't find an article from the National Inquirer?

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Really? We're using the Express as a source now? What, you couldn't find an article from the National Inquirer?

A quick google search suggests it maybe was originally posted in the Daily Mail and has run in a number of different places... I'm not sure if that helps in your view.

On a more general note, because I don't know anything about Express as a publication, I wish this practice of impugning sources rather than content would stop.

[GirlySports]

these anti-refugee arguments are so dumb

WHY WOULD A TERRORIST GO THROUGH ALL THAT TROUBLE!!!???

It's just so incredibly dumb. So, what, some guy is going to post up at a camp for months, hope to win the Canadian lottery, go through the vetting process, wait additional months and then get resettled "somewhere" and THEN they are going to, what, hook up with others that are located "somewhere" and begin carrying out a complex plan?

Or, you know, they just get a fake passport and ID and fly into Dulles, take an Uber to the Marriott near the Convention Center then go out the next day and bomb the place.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

A quick google search suggests it maybe was originally posted in the Daily Mail and has run in a number of different places... I'm not sure if that helps in your view.

On a more general note, because I don't know anything about Express as a publication, I wish this practice of impugning sources rather than content would stop.

The Daily Mail isn't much better. It's like the Sun on crack with boobs, except I think they got rid of the boobs this year.

[VictoryJuice]

We should put all the refugees in Nunavut

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

The Daily Mail isn't much better. It's like the Sun on crack with boobs, except I think they got rid of the boobs this year.

Happy to take your word on that, I just have no reason to doubt that the content of the story is invented or that 8 people weren't arrested or that the diagram wasn't seized from them, until someone confirms that it's a hoax or something.

Or, I guess, if someone points out that the publication in question is basically The Onion and I just wasn't aware of it.

[OMG!WTF!]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Really? We're using the Express as a source now? What, you couldn't find an article from the National Inquirer?

I was just grabbing the first article about the eight Daesh guys that were just arrested yesterday at the airport. That really did happen. If you need another source, try whatever news outlet you prefer.

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

these anti-refugee arguments are so dumb

WHY WOULD A TERRORIST GO THROUGH ALL THAT TROUBLE!!!???

It's just so incredibly dumb. So, what, some guy is going to post up at a camp for months, hope to win the Canadian lottery, go through the vetting process, wait additional months and then get resettled "somewhere" and THEN they are going to, what, hook up with others that are located "somewhere" and begin carrying out a complex plan?

Or, you know, they just get a fake passport and ID and fly into Dulles, take an Uber to the Marriott near the Convention Center then go out the next day and bomb the place.

The lack of critical thinking skills among our peers is scarier than ISIS.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Happy to take your word on that, I just have no reason to doubt that the content of the story is invented or that 8 people weren't arrested or that the diagram wasn't seized from them, until someone confirms that it's a hoax or something.

Or, I guess, if someone points out that the publication in question is basically The Onion and I just wasn't aware of it.

I have no doubt of the story, it is real and I have seen it on reputable sites. That said,

Spoiler!

Etc etc etc etc

[rehsifylf]

I think that 95% if the arguments for and against completely miss the real issue here.

This has nothing to do with Syrian immigrants. It has everything to do with whether you believe political expediency is the way to run your country.

For those worried about ISIS - congrats you are as easily duped as those that think this is about humanity. I can list 1000 things that our Country could do that would have far more benefit to humanity than accepting 25000 refugees from Syria. . You, and the government we elected, would never propose or support them, because they are not the popular thing to do, and most if you would be ignorant to the fact that they even exist.

Feel good if you must, but there are far more effective things Canada could do to help the world, and even Syria, than patting ourselves on the back for accepting 25000 refugees.

Of course, this is all just my opinion.

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[Looch City]

Originally Posted by rehsifylf

I think that 95% if the arguments for and against completely miss the real issue here.

This has nothing to do with Syrian immigrants. It has everything to do with whether you believe political expediency is the way to run your country.

For those worried about ISIS - congrats you are as easily duped as those that think this is about humanity. I can list 1000 things that our Country could do that would have far more benefit to humanity than accepting 25000 refugees from Syria. . You, and the government we elected, would never propose or support them, because they are not the popular thing to do, and most if you would be ignorant to the fact that they even exist.

Feel good if you must, but there are far more effective things Canada could do to help the world, and even Syria, than patting ourselves on the back for accepting 25000 refugees.

Of course, this is all just my opinion.

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Please list those 1000 things.

[Bill Bumface]

1. Every freaking one of us is the beneficiary of someone fleeing a country to seek a better life. A giant chunk of those people "didn't stick around to fight" or fled famine, persecution, etc. Now we want to deny anyone else the same opportunity now that we are warm, safe, comfortable and fed?

2. Why do so many only value a human life if it is the same colour, religion and within the same imaginary lines that define their country? If we take in 25,000 people and save thousands of lives, it's not worth the risk that a smaller amount of people will die here instead of a larger amount dying and suffering there? They are still people. If Canada ever goes to hell I hope things have changed and we all have an easier time finding somewhere safe.

[Looch City]

Oh and btw:

French President Francois Hollande Welcomes Refugees Despite Paris Attack

“France should remain as it is. Our duty is to carry on our lives.”

In the same spirit, he added, “30,000 refugees will be welcomed over the next two years. Our country has the duty to respect this commitment,” explaining that they will undergo vigorous security checks.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ry?id=35274658

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by rehsifylf

I think that 95% if the arguments for and against completely miss the real issue here.

This has nothing to do with Syrian immigrants. It has everything to do with whether you believe political expediency is the way to run your country.

For those worried about ISIS - congrats you are as easily duped as those that think this is about humanity. I can list 1000 things that our Country could do that would have far more benefit to humanity than accepting 25000 refugees from Syria. . You, and the government we elected, would never propose or support them, because they are not the popular thing to do, and most if you would be ignorant to the fact that they even exist.

Feel good if you must, but there are far more effective things Canada could do to help the world, and even Syria, than patting ourselves on the back for accepting 25000 refugees.

Of course, this is all just my opinion.

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I haven't seen anyone that support bringing the refugees before the end of the year say that that it is all about benefiting humanity. Everyone knows there are political motives. It's just like not everyone that recycles does it only because it helps the environment. There are also social pressure that make people do it. Who cares, as long as the right thing is being done.

And so what if there are other things we "could" be doing, if we still aren't doing them.

Accepting refugees undermines ISIS more than any bombs do.

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by Iggy City

Oh and btw:

French President Francois Hollande Welcomes Refugees Despite Paris Attack

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ry?id=35274658

Why two years to screen them? We're roughly doing the same number in 1/20 the time.

Honest question about the screen/security check differences between the two of us here. Are they more thorough or have previously made some kind of timing commitment?

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I haven't seen anyone that support bringing the refugees before the end of the year say that that it is all about benefiting humanity. Everyone knows there are political motives. It's just like not everyone that recycles does it only because it helps the environment. There are also social pressure that make people do it. Who cares, as long as the right thing is being done.

See, I strongly disagree with this rationale as a general principle... but I could be persuaded to set that general principle aside in circumstances that directly involve a choice between fewer and more dead children. Which would apply here.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

One thing about the Paris attacks that has surprised me is how it exposed so many people I know as bigots, racists, xenophobes and fear mongers. Most of these people are just aquantences, so they are easy enough to cut out of my life. There are several others that will be tougher to deal with like my best friend's parents that I see at work weekly, a couple of my cousins, some colleagues and a few others I have to deal with semi regularly. Really interesting how one attack has 'awakened' so many a-holes.

My wife has deleted over 10 people off her FB because of things they've posted since the attacks.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by chemgear

Why two years to screen them? We're roughly doing the same number in 1/20 the time.

Honest question about the screen/security check differences between the two of us here. Are they more thorough or have previously made some kind of timing commitment?

Yip certainly that should be the main take away from that story

[Ashasx]

I've found it very easy in my life to never discuss my opinions on politics and religion with family and friends.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

I've found it very easy in my life to never discuss my opinions on politics and religion with family and friends.

Me too, but they are the ones who insist. It's like the racist who says racist things to you, thinking you'll agree because you're white. Then they get all offended when you don't agree.

What should I expect? I live amongst the banjo playing hillbillies of northern BC. Sigh...