08-01-2014, 11:17 PM
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#261
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Originally Posted by MarchHare
That's really the crux of this entire discussion.
Apparently the "car guys" are all aware of this unwritten rule and all the "non-car guys" are not.
Dinging somebody's car is bad. I'm sure all us "non-car guys" agree with that point. Dinging somebody's car and then not leaving a note is even worse. What I don't understand is why the "car guys" think it's a problem if I happen to park next to them in the unwritten "car guy zone" at the back of the lot. If I ding your door, I'm an a-hole. If I don't ding your door but you still get annoyed because I parked next to you, you're an a-hole.
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Because if it's an empty lot, why would you need to park there, if not to antagonize them?
Obviously you can do it all you want, but why?
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k im just not going to respond to your #### anymore because i have better things to do like #### my model girlfriend rather then try to convince people like you of commonly held hockey knowledge.
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08-01-2014, 11:20 PM
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#262
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Originally Posted by pylon
BS.
Everyone has dinged a door at one time or another.
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No, not everyone has. I assure you that I most certainly have never dinged another car. Then again, I often go weeks at a time without driving anywhere, so I suppose I've had fewer opportunities. Maybe your bad luck just hasn't caught up with me yet.
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08-01-2014, 11:22 PM
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#263
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Originally Posted by Mass_nerder
Because if it's an empty lot, why would you need to park there, if not to antagonize them?
Obviously you can do it all you want, but why?
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That's already been addressed by several different posters earlier in this thread. Rather than drive around the lot for several minutes looking for an open space near the front, we park in the first available spot we see, and that's frequently near the back of the lot in what I've recently learned from this thread is apparently the "car guy zone".
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08-01-2014, 11:31 PM
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#264
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Barthelona
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Originally Posted by MarchHare
That's already been addressed by several different posters earlier in this thread. Rather than drive around the lot for several minutes looking for an open space near the front, we park in the first available spot we see, and that's frequently near the back of the lot in what I've recently learned from this thread is apparently the "car guy zone".
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And so if that first available spot you see is directly next to another car, you can't look one spot further and leave an empty spot between you?
Are you that worried about automobile efficiency?
I get what you're saying. There's no rule, and no one has the right to get upset about you doing it, but it usually pretty obvious that they parked back there to isolate themselves. Why do it?
Would you walk into an empty stadium washroom and use the urinal directly next to someone else because it was the first urinal you saw?
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Originally Posted by snipetype
k im just not going to respond to your #### anymore because i have better things to do like #### my model girlfriend rather then try to convince people like you of commonly held hockey knowledge.
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08-01-2014, 11:36 PM
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#265
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Originally Posted by MarchHare
That's really the crux of this entire discussion.
Apparently the "car guys" are all aware of this unwritten rule and all the "non-car guys" are not.
Dinging somebody's car is bad. I'm sure all us "non-car guys" agree with that point. Dinging somebody's car and then not leaving a note is even worse. What I don't understand is why the "car guys" think it's a problem if I happen to park next to them in the unwritten "car guy zone" at the back of the lot. If I ding your door, I'm an a-hole. If I don't ding your door but you still get annoyed because I parked next to you, you're an a-hole.
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That's not really the point at all.
None of us are saying you cannot park next to us, it is a public lot, you can park anywhere. And none of are saying it is the exclusive right of a particular make or model either.
What we are saying is, we understand why someone would want to minimize their risk of damage, and will extend that courtesy to others. What 'I wish' others would do, I do myself. If there is a bunch of cars sardined together, and there is one car all alone at the back of the lot. I will still park at that back of the lot, but I will still respect the space of the other guy and have a couple stall buffer zone. Nobody has to abide by these rules, as they are not formal rules. But there is other things in society that aren't formal rules either, but we all seem to follow.
Urinal rules.
Farting in elevators.
Close talking.
Nose picking in public.
Clipping fingernails at work.
Ripping a donut in half and putting it back in the box.
Taking the last cup of coffee and not making another pot.
Standing over someones shoulder at an ATM.
Checking 50 lotto tickets at a 7-11 at 7:00 am when coffee guy is trying to get to work.
If you do any of the above, you are an inconsiderate a-hole. They are all unwritten rules that most reasonable people abide by, but do not have to. This parking thing is the same.
The guy parking his car far away is doing nothing wrong, or isn't doing anything to pump his ego. He is just peacefully trying to mind his own business, and prevent damage to something he cares about. You can call him out as having a small dick, being an egotistical a-hole.. whatever you want. But all I am trying to do is protect my property from damage, and minimize my risk, that is the entire thought process, nothing more. The original post I made in this thread was more an ironic tongue and cheek post. I had just paid 400 dollars getting my car babied and brought back to snuff. And the first time I come out, there is the exact scenario looking me in the face, when I went out of my way to try and preserve that new car feel for just a few days.
The guy who blatantly parks right beside you when there is 150 other closer stalls is the bigger egotistical a-hole in my books. I am going out of my way to avoid conflict, he is going out of his way to potentially create one if there is a gust of wind or he misjudges his distance.
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08-01-2014, 11:53 PM
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#267
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Originally Posted by Chill Cosby
I can't go to sleep unless a car guy admits that most people might not know about this rule.
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Sorry, I don't buy that. People aren't that stupid.
Nobody had to tell me not to stare at dongs in locker rooms when I was 8 or not to hop on the neighbours Knight Rider edition Big Wheel and do power slides down his driveway as much I was jealous of it. There are certain things in life you just know aren't right to do.
If you see a shiny brand new car of any make or model parked at the back of a lot surrounded by 30 empty stalls, and your natural instinct is to park in the immediate stall next to it... your the socially inept one, and probably the guy that clips your fingernails at your desk oblivious to everyone around you praying one jumps in your mouth and you choke to death on it.
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08-02-2014, 12:01 AM
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#268
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Originally Posted by pylon
Sorry, I don't buy that. People aren't that stupid.
Nobody had to tell me not to stare at dongs in locker rooms when I was 8 or not to hop on the neighbours Knight Rider edition Big Wheel and do power slides down his driveway as much I was jealous of it. There are certain things in life you just know aren't right to do.
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And yet how many posters in this very thread have claimed they had absolutely no idea that "car guy parking" was apparently a thing? Why do you disbelieve them? Why would anyone lie about not knowing that?
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08-02-2014, 12:02 AM
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#269
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Location: Barthelona
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You might not realize that a lot of people view it as an unwritten rule, but you shouldn't have to possess any prior knowledge to understand their purpose for doing so and why it's common courtesy to leave a spot or two between you.
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k im just not going to respond to your #### anymore because i have better things to do like #### my model girlfriend rather then try to convince people like you of commonly held hockey knowledge.
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08-02-2014, 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by MarchHare
And yet how many posters in this very thread have claimed they had absolutely no idea that "car guy parking" was apparently a thing? Why do you disbelieve them? Why would anyone lie about not knowing that?
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To take this to the extreme.
When you have pulled into a parking lot, and saw a Ferrari, a Porsche or some vintage Barrett Jackson Calibre Muscle Car parked hundreds of feet from anything else, what was your deductive reasoning for why that car was there? Because at some point in everyones driving life, they have seen that exact same scenario in one form or another.
What possible reason, would someone who has invested upwards hundreds of thousand of dollars on an automobile have to keep it away from other cars and objects?
Let's just focus on that obvious scenario first.
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08-02-2014, 12:07 AM
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#271
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08-02-2014, 12:12 AM
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#272
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Originally Posted by pylon
Sorry, I don't buy that. People aren't that stupid.
Nobody had to tell me not to stare at dongs in locker rooms when I was 8 or not to hop on the neighbours Knight Rider edition Big Wheel and do power slides down his driveway as much I was jealous of it. There are certain things in life you just know aren't right to do.
If you see a shiny brand new car of any make or model parked at the back of a lot surrounded by 30 empty stalls, and your natural instinct is to park in the immediate stall next to it... your the socially inept one, and probably the guy that clips your fingernails at your desk oblivious to everyone around you praying one jumps in your mouth and you choke to death on it.
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...or you're not from North America, where I assume this rule primarily exists albeit in a pretty minor way. Maybe they are from here but done really drive.
Your version of common courtesy is entirely subjective, and unfortunately you have to account for the fact that these things aren't universal, and you are going to run into people that haven't heard of these rules. That's life. It's ridiculous to think that every person of every upbringing and world experience comes equipped with the same version of "common courtesy." Very few are universal, and a few more translate well in similar cultures, but that's it.
Don't travel. Your definition of common courtesy would be terribly violated. If you act like you do here in some places, you'd be relentlessly mocked all the same by people similar to yourself.
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08-02-2014, 12:13 AM
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#273
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Originally Posted by Chill Cosby
...or you're not from North America, where this rule primarily exists albeit in a pretty minor way. Maybe they are from here but done really drive.
Your version of common courtesy is entirely subjective, and unfortunately you have to account for the fact that these things aren't universal, and you are going to run into people that haven't heard of these rules. That's life. It's ridiculous to think that every person of every upbringing and world experience comes equipped with the same version of "common courtesy." Very few are universal, and a few more translate well in similar cultures, but that's it.
Don't travel. Your definition of common courtesy would be terribly violated. If you act like you do here in some places, you'd be relentlessly mocked all the same by people similar to yourself.
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So your saying it's normal to stare at dongs in locker rooms where your from?
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08-02-2014, 12:16 AM
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#274
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Originally Posted by pylon
If you see a shiny brand new car of any make or model parked at the back of a lot surrounded by 30 empty stalls, and your natural instinct is to park in the immediate stall next to it.
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How often has this happened to you?
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08-02-2014, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by pylon
So your saying it's normal to stare at dongs in locker rooms where your from?
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Well "it's rude to stare" happens to be a common one, that's more about staring in general, less about penises hanging out in a locker room, which is also a little more sensitive of an issue in NA.
But there are a few more I've never heard of (or don't understand the reasoning for):
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Originally Posted by pylon
Urinal rules.
Close talking.
Ripping a donut in half and putting it back in the box.
Taking the last cup of coffee and not making another pot.
Standing over someone's should at the ATM.
Checking 50 lotto tickets at a 7-11 at 7:00 am when coffee guy is trying to get to work.
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So chill out! Life is better when you get worked up less about silly things
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08-02-2014, 12:24 AM
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#277
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Originally Posted by Chill Cosby
Well "it's rude to stare" happens to be a common one, that's more about staring in general, less about penises hanging out in a locker room, which is also a little more sensitive of an issue in NA.
But there are a few more I've never heard of (or don't understand the reasoning for):
So chill out! Life is better when you get worked up less about silly things 
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Sorry Chill you have mentioned this a few times, but where are you from?
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08-02-2014, 12:28 AM
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#278
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Originally Posted by Chill Cosby
...or you're not from North America, where I assume this rule primarily exists albeit in a pretty minor way. Maybe they are from here but done really drive.
Your version of common courtesy is entirely subjective, and unfortunately you have to account for the fact that these things aren't universal, and you are going to run into people that haven't heard of these rules. That's life. It's ridiculous to think that every person of every upbringing and world experience comes equipped with the same version of "common courtesy." Very few are universal, and a few more translate well in similar cultures, but that's it.
Don't travel. Your definition of common courtesy would be terribly violated. If you act like you do here in some places, you'd be relentlessly mocked all the same by people similar to yourself.
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Or are you saying I would be mocked for being a courteous person?
I'm sorry, I have travelled, and the stranger in a strange land thing doesn't hold water. When you come to a new Country, part of the onus is on you to try and adapt to local customs and courtesies. People from India don't come here and poo on the sidewalk even though it is the norm there. People from Japan don't take off their shoes when they go to The Keg.
There is certainly some religious standards that carry over, and people are free to express. But when it comes to common courtesy, if you don't adapt to a new culture, and be respectful of others in that culture, your just a selfish a-hole then. No matter where you go.
I certainly wouldn't go to Iran, crack a beer, and crank Motley Crue with my windows down with a topless hooker in the passenger seat. I would respect the local customs.
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08-02-2014, 12:37 AM
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#279
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Originally Posted by pylon
Or are you saying I would be mocked for being a courteous person?
I'm sorry, I have travelled, and the stranger in a strange land thing doesn't hold water. When you come to a new Country, part of the onus is on you to try and adapt to local customs and courtesies. People from India don't come here and poo on the sidewalk even though it is the norm there. People from Japan don't take off their shoes when they go to The Keg.
There is certainly some religious standards that carry over, and people are free to express. But when it comes to common courtesy, if you don't adapt to a new culture, and be respectful of others in that culture, your just a selfish a-hole then. No matter where you go.
I certainly wouldn't go to Iran, crack a beer, and crank Motley Crue with my windows down with a topless hooker in the passenger seat. I would respect the local customs.
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Yeah, you might. If the people are about as understanding as you are. Some things that are considered courteous here is actually considered rude in other countries.
My point is not that people shouldn't try to get used to the customs of the place they're living, but this close parking thing, I'm telling you, it barely seems to be a thing. I've truly never heard of it before, not because I'm socially inept or a selfish a-hole, I've just.. never... heard of it. And you know what? It'll probably pop into my head now and then when I see it, and I'll think "Hey, maybe I shouldn't park there."
All I'm saying is give some sort of value to the fact instead of being disrespectful, some people just don't know about this minor unwritten rule. You know it, so to you it is obvious. But like how I will now likely consider the need for space when seeing a line vehicle in the parking lot, I'd like you to just think that "hey, maybe they just didn't know" instead of assuming they're bad people. That's all! I don't think it's ridiculous, but maybe I'm just naive.
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08-02-2014, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Chill Cosby
My point is not that people shouldn't try to get used to the customs of the place they're living, but this close parking thing, I'm telling you, it barely seems to be a thing. I've truly never heard of it before, not because I'm socially inept or a selfish a-hole, I've just.. never... heard of it. And you know what? It'll probably pop into my head now and then when I see it, and I'll think "Hey, maybe I shouldn't park there."
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