[News] Cammalleri has NOT been traded. Upd: Cammalleri likely heading to free agency

[flamesfan1297]

As much as I wanted Cammy to be traded for picks, i am kind of okay with him staying. IF he resigns here in the summer we can try and flip him at the next deadline, and he is a good vet to have around the kids.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by GGG

To me if a second round pick was offered for Cammy then we should have taken it. But I would say that a 3rd and a 5th is not worth enough if you believe you have a reasonable chance at resigning him.

His rights are worth at least a 4th or 5th at the deadline. So the differnce in what we could have got today and now is about a 3rd round pick. Also as Colorado showed uninspired veterans are the key to tanking properly.

I think Hemsky is the closest comparison..... and BB did say offers for Cammalleri were worse than Moulson/Vanek (2nd rounder)....... so a 3rd or 4th seems to be it. Probably better than nothing, but I'm not going to cry about it.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Honestly, I was fine with Cammy staying if Stempniak left. I think all of us were too focused on Cammy being traded that we kind of forgot about Stempniak being a possibility as well. The fact that Burke was able to move one of them is good, it's not a trade deadline fail after all.

Burke did his job, he didn't get crap for Cammy. Too bad that 3-way trade didn't fall through. I think Cammy resigning here is a 65% chance.

[Stupid]

Here's how I look at it.

Forget for a second that we didn't trade cammi, who people thought would fetch the higher return. A consensus of people were hoping to get a 2nd or maybe a 1st+ for Cammy, and a 3rd for Stemp or Butler. Did we get that? not quite but almost; we got a 2nd and a 3rd.

And we still have Cammalleri! Not for long, I know, but we do. There's value and potential in that.

Given opportunity we might have gotten flashier and better returns. If the opportunity isn't there, there's not much you can do.
We came away with almost what we hoped for - by giving up lesser assets.

I'm alright with that.

[Fire]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

The irony is, if we had flipped Cammallerri for a 3rd, (and stempniak not traded) most of us would have been ok with it. However because it is the other way, most of us are ticked off.

I think the majority of people who are bitching about not trading him would be bitching about only getting a 3rd rounder. I'm disappointed but I respect the reasons why Burke didn't trade Cammalleri.

[Itse]

I'm with Stupid here, I think people are getting too stuck in the speculation over Cammalleris value. In the long term it will not matter who we traded to get these picks, it only matters that we got them without giving up anything we'll really miss. (Besides Yogi's accent.)

A 2nd and a 3rd are okay results IMO, considering the market and what we had up for sale.

As to Burke, I don't think that the Cammy deals failed because of some specific failing on Burke's part. Essentially, I accept the reasons he gave for the deals not happening as valid, not as excuses. Stuff happens.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

I would be shocked if Cammy resigns, why would he want to they asked to trade him and now it didn't happen.
Why would he want to stay and why would he be willing to do a extension so they the Flames can flip him to a team he wants to go to.
Cammy can accomplish that with his agent without the Flames come FA day.
Burke pooped the bed on this one unless by some way he pulls off a rights deal trade which i doubt will surface.

The Flames will need to hit the cap floor and will probably offer him twice as much as most other teams as a result. That, and he and his family already know the Calgary area, the team, and the organization.

Sure he was asked to be traded, but at the end of the day, his options this summer will be to sign a one year $5-6 mil contract with the Flames with a virtual guarantee of being traded to a contender at the deadline (with the Flames eating half his salary), or a $2-3 mil contract for that same contender. Which would you choose?

[Matty81]

Echoing a lot of previous posts but Cammy should have been dealt for almost anything unless he is definitively going to be re-signed. To turn down a deal for anything better than a 5th to send a message that you won't give players away is hard headed to the point of stupidity.

If he is re-signed, the next time Burke complains about the team having too many small players who don't fight someone should kick him in the junk.

Also, worst part of the whole day was talk about resigning butters. Him and macdonald are the two guys I don't want anywhere near this team, doesn't play physical, not great offensively, minimal heart for this logo in his years here and no more upside.

He's just a useless player who adds no value at all. Pitch him overboard ASAP. Just put a big pylon out there and it can be 3rd in blocked shots next year at less cost.

[Itse]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Sure he was asked to be traded, but at the end of the day, his options this summer will be to sign a one year $5-6 mil contract with the Flames with a virtual guarantee of being traded to a contender at the deadline (with the Flames eating half his salary), or a $2-3 mil contract for that same contender. Which would you choose?

After this trade deadline I don't think Cammalleri will put much stock in "virtual guarantees". I think he'll sign with a contender, and the best we can hope to get is something for his negotiating rights.

[Caged Great]

Another thing to consider is that we are going to be extremely hard pressed to hit the floor next year. If we re-sign Cammy to a 1 year 6-6.5 million that'll help us at least hit the floor and give us a chance at moving him to a cup contender next year.

[Matty81]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

Another thing to consider is that we are going to be extremely hard pressed to hit the floor next year. If we re-sign Cammy to a 1 year 6-6.5 million that'll help us at least hit the floor and give us a chance at moving him to a cup contender next year.

The thing is, you don't need to reach the floor - the penalty is you pay the difference between your payroll and the floor and it gets divvied up by the players.

Might not sit well with ownership but no harm to the rebuild.

But ya I'd be all for a 1 year deal, I don't know why he'd do that or re-sign with the Flames though.

[trackercowe]

It's doubtful Cammy is going to re-sign for just one year. This is likely going to be his last long-term deal, and will probably be looking to sign for at least four years.

[DOOM]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

It's doubtful Cammy is going to re-sign for just one year. This is likely going to be his last long-term deal, and will probably be looking to sign for at least four years.

He has had a pretty bad year.

Maybe he wants to sign a one year deal and improve his long-term value.

The Flames could offer him stacks of money for a one year deal.

[sun]

Pretty disappointing, but I guess he was pretty much worthless or he would be dealt. Has his play convinced anyone otherwise? Rather awful year thus far.

Hope he doesn't re-sign.

[ForeverFlameFan]

2 years, 4-5 million per is fine.

[FBI]

Was pissed before but that was before I knew about the other trades. Now that I've had a few hours to stew, I am still unhappy about the Cammy situation but happy that Stempniak is gone and that we get more of Reinhart or knight because of it.

[AcGold]

My guess is he had multiple deals in the air and the other teams put such little stock in camalleri(less than a third) that Burke refocused on the deals he felt had potential. Twas better to get a second and a third than a fourth alone and look like a fool, if a third or better was offered you'd think he would have jumped on it immediately.

[dino7c]

They tried to trade the guy all summer with no takers...after his piss poor season I'm not suprised there are still no takers

[The Fonz]

Why on earth is anyone suggesting a salary in the neighborhood of 6M for Cammalleri?

He wouldn't even get that on the open market.

[The Fonz]

Recent contracts...

Horton @ 5.3
Weiss @ 4.9
Alfredsson @ 5.5
Elias @ 5.5
Clowe @ 4.85
MacArthur @ 3.25
Hartnell @ 4.75
Lecavalier @ 4.5
Ribeiro @ 5.5
Roy @ 4.0
Filppula @ 5


Cammalleri is likely to get around what Roy did last summer. Anything over 4.5 is an overpayment.