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Old 10-14-2013, 07:33 AM   #261
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Are you really? Are you prepared to do something about it and not reward their bad behavior by voting them back into office? I hear a lot of people talk about how broken Washington is, and how these politicians are greedy jerks looking out for themselves, but when election time comes around they vote their greedy jerk back in to represent them again. The problem isn't their greedy jerk, its all the others! The only way this stuff changes is if people get educated on the issues and vote based on issues rather than ideological hot issues that have no impact in the big picture.
It would be interesting if we just didn't show up instead of voting for "the lesser of two evils".
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No it wouldn't. There would be a 5 minute story about decreasing voter turnout and the rest of the hour would be spent talking about who got more votes than the other guy.

The only thing that would change the system is if there was a legitimate 3rd party. And people are very scared of 3rd parties right now after seeing Ross Perot giving the election to Clinton and Ralph Nader giving the election to Bush. Even on a local or state level, people are afraid that a vote for a third party will result in their least desireable candidate being elected.
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Well, I was talking about NOBODY showing up. Millions not showing up....
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:57 AM   #264
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In other words, the story of out-of-control debts and deficits is just plain wrong. Less polite people would call it a lie, but it stands at the center of the public debate because the media consider it rude to point out a truth that would embarrass so many important politicians.
CNN, I'm looking at you.
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Well, I was talking about NOBODY showing up. Millions not showing up....
So the US right wing is completely in disarray and delusional, and you think a good strategy is to stop voting, for anyone? Check.
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It would be interesting if we just didn't show up instead of voting for "the lesser of two evils".
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Old 10-15-2013, 11:03 AM   #268
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The media needs to be much stronger, get rid of pundits and party recomendations and go all Newsroom on everybody. Point out Hypocracy and Idiocy and outright lies and every turn. Go to war with lies and half truths.

The real driver of any change though will be the republican party primaries for the House seats. If the republicans decide that more reasonable members need to be elected then that will dirve change. In fact in Gerrymandered districts all democrats should really join the republican party so that they have a meaningful vote and vote for the most liberal candidate. Kind of like how I join the PC's in alberta for each leadership race.
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The media needs to be much stronger, get rid of pundits and party recomendations and go all Newsroom on everybody. Point out Hypocracy and Idiocy and outright lies and every turn. Go to war with lies and half truths.

The real driver of any change though will be the republican party primaries for the House seats. If the republicans decide that more reasonable members need to be elected then that will dirve change. In fact in Gerrymandered districts all democrats should really join the republican party so that they have a meaningful vote and vote for the most liberal candidate. Kind of like how I join the PC's in alberta for each leadership race.
You can't have journalism in for-profit media. The two are mutually exclusive.

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The media needs to be much stronger, get rid of pundits and party recomendations and go all Newsroom on everybody. Point out Hypocracy and Idiocy and outright lies and every turn. Go to war with lies and half truths.

The real driver of any change though will be the republican party primaries for the House seats. If the republicans decide that more reasonable members need to be elected then that will dirve change. In fact in Gerrymandered districts all democrats should really join the republican party so that they have a meaningful vote and vote for the most liberal candidate. Kind of like how I join the PC's in alberta for each leadership race.
So go Will McAvoy on their asses?
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Old 10-15-2013, 04:14 PM   #273
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Did I see CaptainCrunch in that crowd eating a donut?
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Aww look. Ted Cruz borrowed Rick Perry's "Aw shucks, I'm just a simple southern country boy who believes in faith, the flag, the American way, and I just finished mucking out mah barn" jacket. Isn't that sweet? They're borrowing outfits from each other now.
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Awesome. House GOP leaders cancel vote on reopening government and raising debt ceiling. Back to the drawing board senate.

I swear the tea party wants a default.
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Old 10-15-2013, 05:11 PM   #276
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OK, its last resort time! This is terrific!

http://drunkdialcongress.org/

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CALL & YELL AT A RANDOM MEMBER OF CONGRESS
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She's also pretty cute too!
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CALL & YELL AT A RANDOM MEMBER OF CONGRESS
Stupid. People should be calling and yelling only at the Tea Party morons who are the cause of this, not a random rational, sane member of Congress.
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Old 10-15-2013, 05:28 PM   #278
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Stupid. People should be calling and yelling only at the Tea Party morons who are the cause of this, not a random rational, sane member of Congress.
Oh come on, you don't think it's funny to have any senate or congress members voicemail full of drunk angry messages? As I completely blame the republicans for this current s***storm we see today, the entire system is broken, every senator and congressman is bought. May as well have some fun with it.
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:21 PM   #279
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So go Will McAvoy on their asses?
A man can dream, and hopefully they can do it with less relationship drama and more news.
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Americans have gone bizarro. At one time they took the lead in social justice and progressiveness, now they are to be pitied.
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