BattleStar Galactica - SPOILER WARNING

[Wookie]

Well I kinda enjoyed the episode. Man does starbuck **** me off though..

Holy crap she's gotten herself in a lot better shape since season one! Wow she looks GREAT!!!

Although I do think she wouldn't have gotten up from Lee's first punch. I'm sorry, for a girl to take a hit like that from a guy that built and strong, and athletic and trained as a soldier... she's down/done, end of story.. but for the story I guess that couldn't have happened. I know Lee is a gnome.. but I think that's in real life.. not on BSG.

Regarding The old man not taking the prez's advice.. I think he wanted to get beaten up.. So to take it was pointless

I feel bad for Dee and the Starbucks husband.. Although the relationship that the two had (Lee and Starbuck) is one that would be hard to deal with regardless, best friend/almost sister/but not because you slept together.. any guy is going to have a hard time competing with that.

Hmmm.. looking forward to next weeks too!

[Wookie]

Originally Posted by @theCBE

I just started watching the show over the last month or so and its awesome. I am finally caught up... looking forward to watching this weekends episode.

On a semi-related note.. Admiral Adama makes a cameo in the latest snoop Dogg video... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY7iLyyrq70
Can't for the life of me figure out what he is doing, and the video is not good enough to watch a second time to figure it out.

"the rapper's newest music video 'Vato' will not only feature his gangsta side, but will also tackle the issue of racial conflict in Los Angeles between African-Americans and Hispanics and call for racial unity"

I assume he's like the Hispanic leader that snoop is meeting up with (James Edward Almos)

Snoop Reclaims His Old Doggystyle, Goes Gangsta For 'Vato' Video
B Real, Edward James Olmos guest in clip that calls for unity between blacks and Hispanics in L.A.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/153...oop_dogg.jhtml

"The influence of music on the human psyche is overwhelming," said Academy Award-nominated actor Edward James Olmos, who makes a cameo in the video. "You apply that to the fact that people use it to express themselves — even more impact. Then you understand we have problems and you try to understand those problems through your art form — you're hitting a grand slam. Snoop Dogg is hitting a grand slam out of the park.
"The biggest goal that can come from this is an understanding between cultures," Olmos continued. "It's a situation that's been going on for a long time; it's going to continue to go on unless we give an alternative to the youth. Right now we have children showing children how to be adults — the adults have to step up to the plate. Snoop Dogg is an adult. He walks the walk and talks the talk. He's been doing a lot for a long time."

[MrMastodonFarm]

I still can't beleive how good of a show it is.. and how long it took me to get into it.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

I still can't beleive how good of a show it is.. and how long it took me to get into it.

Took me a while too - I started renting the DVDs this summer and just managed to finish the last season mere days before the new season began.

I'm not a big fan of most television Sci-Fi so that's probably why I didn't watch it off the start.

[Cowperson]

A new Luciano Carro interview, the actress who plays Kat:

http://galacticabs.sm4.biz/

Interesting that her favourite episode is one that has yet to be aired.

Fans of The Chris Isaak Show might remember a fairly hilarious and spicy episode with Carro in it, playing the drummer's immature new wife.

Cowperson

[Cowperson]

A Battlestar reference in Dilbert today:




A Ron Moore interview dated today. He's oblique enough that you can probably read it without feeling you've been "spoiled" and, if you're okay with that, you'll get a decent idea of how this is playing out for the rest of the year.:

http://www.eonline.com/gossip/kristi...3-f419872c5825

Of interest in the link above, I think, was this concluding passage:

Annmys: As the producer and writer in charge, do you know how the show ends?

Yes, I do. I have an idea where we should end the series, and the question is how long the story, I think, can go from here to there.

KV: How long would you like to carry on?
It's so hard. By the end of the season I'm like, "How many more of these can we get out?" And then sure enough, we think of a whole lot more in the writers' room—but at least a couple more years.

Below is an interview with a Battlestar writer, the well-regarded Jane Espenson dated two days ago:

http://www.tvsquad.com/2006/12/06/ja...tar-questions/

Cowperson

[Wookie]

Hmmm, Last night's show was good, I just watched it this morning.

Odd that I never liked Kat until the end of this episode, always disliking her and from here on in I'll like her now

Some of the logistics of the episode I don't really understand, couldn't they have flown around? Somehow.. or.. yeah..

Ti - glad to see him back at his post "paper shortage" classic..

Gaeta didn't seem to pleased to see him though

When Helo went off about sharron being strong I wanted to vomit.

I like how Baltar gets a threesome every night

[Cowperson]

First, the most important thing, Tricia Helfer will be in Playboy next month:

http://www.playboy.com/magazine/next_month.html

I wish my dad were still alive so I could look in his bedroom when he wasn't there and find it . . . . I don't know what I'm going to do now.

On the episode last night, a fast developing starvation crisis and a limited time to get to a planet that can save them means they have to take a straight-line through a dangerous nebula.

More ships lost so presumeably more crowding in the future.

Losing Kat completely surprised me . . . . and I'm sure my sister-in-law was leaning towards her TV last night crying at the end. I guess this was the episode that Luciano Carro was saying was her favourite.

I agree there's something between Gaeta and Tigh coming up . . . . Gaeta wasn't happy to see him. But maybe that's understandable since Tigh was going to shoot him out an airlock only a few weeks ago.

Must be hard on the nerves to kill yourself everyday like Lucy Lawless is doing . . . . .

Nice to see we're going to be back on the Earth chase next week. And Ron Moore said in a recent interview that the mysticism/religiousity of the show would be appearing again.

So . . . . . as we move deeper into interstellar space, have we left the main body of Cylons behind and we're now dealing with a particular Cylon fleet?

Cowperson

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Cowperson

First, the most important thing, Tricia Helfer will be in Playboy next month:

http://www.playboy.com/magazine/next_month.html

I wish my dad were still alive so I could look in his bedroom when he wasn't there and find it . . . . I don't know what I'm going to do now.

On the episode last night, a fast developing starvation crisis and a limited time to get to a planet that can save them means they have to take a straight-line through a dangerous nebula.

More ships lost so presumeably more crowding in the future.

Losing Kat completely surprised me . . . . and I'm sure my sister-in-law was leaning towards her TV last night crying at the end. I guess this was the episode that Luciano Carro was saying was her favourite.

I agree there's something between Gaeta and Tigh coming up . . . . Gaeta wasn't happy to see him. But maybe that's understandable since Tigh was going to shoot him out an airlock only a few weeks ago.

Must be hard on the nerves to kill yourself everyday like Lucy Lawless is doing . . . . .

Nice to see we're going to be back on the Earth chase next week. And Ron Moore said in a recent interview that the mysticism/religiousity of the show would be appearing again.

So . . . . . as we move deeper into interstellar space, have we left the main body of Cylons behind and we're now dealing with a particular Cylon fleet?

Cowperson

Just a few thoughts on tonights episode.

Much better from a standpoint not of action, but of character development, no scratch that species development. You saw hopelessness, frustration, anger, and the inability for forgiveness (Starbuck and Cat, Gaeta and Tigh). I know there's going to be some friction between Gaeta and Tigh, but its mostly going to come from Gaeta's side, I think Tigh is pretty much ashamed of himself and it showed when he stood outside of the CIC and was reluctant to go in. Starbuck continues to be a unlikeable character. She refuses to ignore Cats past needling her on the Stims thing and then driving her to suicide by hammering her about her past and basically bringing up the treason word. Then giving her the sleeping pills in what she conceives as an act of mercy. I think there has to be another tumble for Starbuck soon as she's not even a character that you can truly feel sorry for. The actress who played Cat had a strong performance in her last episode, I'm almost sorry to see Starbuck Jr go, and was hoping that Hotdog was going to bite the bullet.

The Cylon mystisism is baffling to me, now we figure that the human gods and the Cylon god knows each other, I guess it makes sense since all the gods live on some Cul de Sac in the clouds and borrow suger from each other.

One thing that I really like about this show that I disliked about the Star Treks of the World, is that in Star Trek the shows rarely showed ships damage from episode to episode, they were always freshly painted and sparkly. The Galactica has taken on a decidedly battered look and took some severe hull damage, you have to wonder if she's going to lose her ability to even fight soon.

I don't see an overcrowding situation since the people on those ships are gone, but they lost at least 5 ships last night (one on each run) so the population probably dropped by 10 percent, time to make more babies. As a guy if I was stuck on that fleet I would be volunteering as Captain of the knock up squad.

Looking at the flight roster when they made Cat the honorary CAG I noticed that there were only three squadrons. Now going by any kind of prewar concept each squadron has 16 planes so the Galactica in totaly only has 48 pilots, well errrr 47. They also broke the common rule of naval operations where pilots are specialists on thier planes and had viper pilots fly Rapters and vice versa. I know its nit picking, but it always drove me nuts in Star Trek and Space Above and beyond where you had pilots doing marine missions, and no dedicated shuttle pilots. Oh and the bridge crew doing away missions. Drives me crazy.

How long can the human race eat freakin Algae before they start looking at each other and saying I'd like to have you over for dinner with some nice Chianti and some fava beans.

One of the features of the Cylons of the original series was that they were constantly warring because they wanted the Galaxy to attain thier form of utter perfection. In this series the Cylons started that way, but are now fighting what seems to be a war based on religion . . . given that, its an interesting point Cow, are we seeing one Cylon fleet, or the Cylon version of the Crusades where you have every man or woman who can pick up a weapon on the front lines pursuing the humans. At that point it would certainly be nice to know where the Cylon homeworld is. And the question is do they have a true homeworld or are they waiting for a sign from thier god that Earth is thier Israel?



Over all a strong episode leading to the final fall episode.

[Cowperson]

I don't see an overcrowding situation since the people on those ships are gone, but they lost at least 5 ships last night (one on each run)

The plan, as outlined at the start, was to evacuate the passengers to Galactica, then operate the ships through the nebula with skeleton crews. Hence Kat's ex-partner showing up on Galactica. Then remove those passengers back to their ships on the other side. Remember at the start Dualla in a large room telling arrivees there was no extra food on board and they would be required to stay confined to that area . . . . still, Kat's nemesis was wandering all over and even onto the flight deck.

So, if they lost 10% of their ships and a few skeleton crew, we might still assume 4100 people were displaced and need to be jammed into the remaining, already overcrowded fleet.

How long can the human race eat freakin Algae before they start looking at each other and saying I'd like to have you over for dinner with some nice Chianti and some fava beans.

Algae-dependent humans has been a staple of futuristic science fiction writers since the 1950's.

One of the features of the Cylons of the original series was that they were constantly warring because they wanted the Galaxy to attain thier form of utter perfection. In this series the Cylons started that way, but are now fighting what seems to be a war based on religion . . . given that, its an interesting point Cow, are we seeing one Cylon fleet, or the Cylon version of the Crusades where you have every man or woman who can pick up a weapon on the front lines pursuing the humans. At that point it would certainly be nice to know where the Cylon homeworld is. And the question is do they have a true homeworld or are they waiting for a sign from thier god that Earth is thier Israel?

At the end of the mini-series, we saw the Cylons declaring they couldn't let the survivors escape because they would eventually return to destroy them (the Cylons). So, yee-haw to genocide.

Then we saw what appeared to be a splintering in the Cylon community . . . those who favoured Genocide and those who favoured a benevolent occupation.

And, more recently, we did see the Two Blond Bombshells declare that they wanted to make Earth their new home.

So the race is on.

Cowperson

[Antithesis]

Has anyone been recording Season 3? I've just gotten caught up on Season 2 and I don't see anything online about a DVD release for the first half of Season 3 like they did with 2.

[Cowperson]

Originally Posted by Antithesis

Has anyone been recording Season 3? I've just gotten caught up on Season 2 and I don't see anything online about a DVD release for the first half of Season 3 like they did with 2.

Some might suggest trying the obvious sort-of illegal methods on the internet . . . . I wouldn't but others might suggest it.

At the link below, there are some fair-sized spoilers in this Chicago Tribune blog interview with Ron Moore discussing the coming mid-season finale and the second half of the season. This appeared yesterday, Dec. 13. Great interview if you don't mind a peak at the future of the show:

http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune...._the_cent.html

I wonder if this is the next episode is the one filmed in the Kamloops area?

Cowperson

[Wookie]

Originally Posted by Cowperson

Some might suggest trying the obvious sort-of illegal methods on the internet . . . . I wouldn't but others might suggest it.

At the link below, there are some fair-sized spoilers in this Chicago Tribune blog interview with Ron Moore discussing the coming mid-season finale and the second half of the season. This appeared yesterday, Dec. 13. Great interview if you don't mind a peak at the future of the show:

http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune...._the_cent.html

I wonder if this is the next episode is the one filmed in the Kamloops area?

Cowperson

So I take it you read all these stories that you link with possible spoiler themes in them?

I never interested in reading them.... Well I am, but don't want to spoil anything, I'm not sure why, I just don't really want to know what's coming. For some reason I'm worried it might spoil what is an already great show.

One thing that does bother me. I've never seen a episode on TV. Every single episode has been a DL.

Now these episodes start off with the show intro.. that slow music "The Cylons were created by man bit" then progresses, then there is always this part that has fast music, with an exciting sort of beat, that shows what will happen throughout the entire show. It infuriates me, I have to close my eyes and try to gauge by the music when it is safe to open them again! Why must they do this? Is it like that on the TV too?

[Cowperson]

Originally Posted by Wookie

So I take it you read all these stories that you link with possible spoiler themes in them?

Actually, I'm pretty good at blowing through them real fast and dodging things I don't want to know about . . . . . I tend to get a grasp of themes but not details via that method. So I can say I didn't read all the Tribune article . . . but I did read parts of it.

Now, for yourself, a 6'5" Wookie who has to close his eyes and clap his hands over his ears even for the opening preamble of each episode . . . . well, yes, something like the Chicago Tribune article is decidedly dangerous stuff!!! You absolutely wouldn't want to read that article. Not an inch of it.

Nothing wrong with that. To each his own. Hence my spoiler level alerts for some of the articles. You may partake or you may ignore at your pleasure.

Cowperson

[Cowperson]

A likely under-appreciated moment in the mid-season cliff-hanger . . . . Brother Cavell giving Colonel Tigh a wink as if to say, "nice eyepatch."

Another underappreciated moment . . . . Baltar waking up in his four poster bed to find he's surprised he DOESN'T have Lucy Lawless on one side and Tricia Helfer on the other. If only we could all be surprised like that.

Or Adama getting up and walking out on Laura Roslin in mid-sentence . . . . . . that isn't going well again.

Or the death stare of Sharon towards Adama when she finds out Hera is alive.

Definitely shot around Kamloops.

They're going waayyyyy out of their way to make Starbuck as unlikeable a character as possible . . . . marriage is sacrilege but a little fun on the side is okay. Sure. That reminds me of the old bar line: "Sure I'm married honey, but I don't have to be a fanatic about it." I am now ready to thow a party upon seeing her horribly mangled body in the wreckage.

Anders to Lee: "You think you're the only one . . . . I know my wife." Ouch!! And then he's off to rescue her. That's getting hard to believe except you probably know couples like that in real life too, as strange as they are.

Will they see the faces of the final five Cylons in the Temple? Or, as a bonus, the Face of God? Has Tyrol figured out the meaning of the Eye of Jupiter? Will Adama nuke the continent? Will Sharon hold Hera again? Will she betray Adama to do it?

Cowperson

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Cowperson

A likely under-appreciated moment in the mid-season cliff-hanger . . . . Brother Cavell giving Colonel Tigh a wink as if to say, "nice eyepatch."

I love that when I saw that, it was almost like asking a one handed man to clap. Brother Cavell too me is becoming the most interesting and most human like Cylon.

Originally Posted by Cowperson

Another underappreciated moment . . . . Baltar waking up in his four poster bed to find he's surprised he DOESN'T have Lucy Lawless on one side and Tricia Helfer on the other. If only we could all be surprised like that.

It went well with the moment later on when the Cylon's offered Baltar back to the humans, and Baltar's lament that he missed the company of humans when he arrived back on the Galactica. He's rapidly becoming very lonely.

Originally Posted by Cowperson

Or Adama getting up and walking out on Laura Roslin in mid-sentence . . . . . . that isn't going well again.

I thought Adama was in that decision concerning Hera, guess I missed something there. We know that there is some heat between the two of them on a personal level of the gushy kind. But they've never seen eye to eye on a professional level. Adama has been a good commander from the point of view of putting his people first.

Originally Posted by Cowperson

Or the death stare of Sharon towards Adama when she finds out Hera is alive.

I doubt that she will betray humanity, but I can see her taking a Raptor and sneaking over to the Cylon's and selling her soul to hold her kid again.

Definitely shot around Kamloops.

Originally Posted by Cowperson

They're going waayyyyy out of their way to make Starbuck as unlikeable a character as possible . . . . marriage is sacrilege but a little fun on the side is okay. Sure. That reminds me of the old bar line: "Sure I'm married honey, but I don't have to be a fanatic about it." I am now ready to thow a party upon seeing her horribly mangled body in the wreckage.

I'm really trying to see the one redeemable character point with her, but its just not there. If you were to compare her, she'd be the most Cylon of the humans. There has to be a spiritual moment, or a redemption where Starbuck hits rock bottom or she becomes a 1D spoiled brat of a character who's completely unlikable.

Originally Posted by Cowperson

Anders to Lee: "You think you're the only one . . . . I know my wife." Ouch!! And then he's off to rescue her. That's getting hard to believe except you probably know couples like that in real life too, as strange as they are.

We know that Starbuck has a roving eye, but Anders is pretty much like a drug addict with her, and the rescue is a metaphor for saving her soul. I have no doubt that Ander's will become the Galactica's red shirt and die on his way to save her. Lee will blame her for Ander's death and the rift will really deepen, considering it mirrors Lee's brothers death.

Originally Posted by Cowperson

Will they see the faces of the final five Cylons in the Temple? Or, as a bonus, the Face of God? Has Tyrol figured out the meaning of the Eye of Jupiter? Will Adama nuke the continent? Will Sharon hold Hera again? Will she betray Adama to do it?

I doubt that we'll ever see the face of god in the series or the gods. however I do think that we will see the faces of the Cylon's representing the gods that the human's worship. It amazes me in how the Cylon's mirror the greek gods.

6 is definately Aphrodite, the temptress who was also the protector of sailors (human's).

Sharon would ironically be Hera, the mother godess, compassionate but jealous and vindictive at the same time.

Brother Cavill would be the god of war ares, nasty and always in a state of brutality and blood lust.

The doctor Cylon would be Apollo, the god of healing and prophesy.

Lucy Lawless's Cylon would be Artemis, the goddess of childbirth who also had a fierce temper and would bring death with her arrows.

The scumy unshaven Cylon would be Hermes who was the puralator courier to the gods and a guide for dead souls, but was also a notorios prankster.

So who's missing, who are the last 5?

Of course we're missing the Zeus figure, the god of gods, angry jealous but with a roving eye, but considered to be the creator of creators. Possibly the first of the human looking Cylons.

Hephastus was the god of fire and craft but was lame and driven to distraction by Hermes and his pranks. Might we see the flawd but brilliant cylon (Baltar if he is one would fit this role perfectly)

Poseidon The god of the seas, who constantly fought change with the gods and was jealous of his own domain.

Hades The god of the dead who dwelt away from the other gods in his own underworld.

PAN - The shunned god because of his appearance as a half goat half man, but was the peacemaker among the gods with his easy listening afternoon drive music.

Anyways, I think if we're going to see the faces of the Cylons, its all of the Cylons who represent the gods. But I don't know if I believe that the 5 are hidden among the humans at the moment, but might have broken off with the Cylon's to go to Earth, which would explain at least part of the greek mythos and roman mythos.

[Cowperson]

That's a goddamned, bloody, fracking outstanding analysis Crunch!!! Well done!!

A David Eick interview below. No spoilers in it. Season four shooting has finished. He talks about how long the show might go on.

http://ifmagazine.com/feature.asp?article=1810

We know that Starbuck has a roving eye, but Anders is pretty much like a drug addict with her, and the rescue is a metaphor for saving her soul. I have no doubt that Ander's will become the Galactica's red shirt and die on his way to save her.

As I was watching Anders I was thinking it was a pretty ridiculous scenario . . . . but, as I said above, I know men and women like him in real life as do most of you as well. Ridiculous yes. Improbable, sadly no.

Regarding Hera . . . . Adama was certainly involved in the decision to fake Hera's death. He might have known that Laura had the kid on the surface of new Caprica with its adoptive mother. Would he care what happened to the kid in the lazy days after finding that planet? Then Galactica lost communication with the surface for months . . . . the kid wouldn't have been logged as a returnee in a survey when people were brought back up. Did Adama simply assume the kid was dead at that point. Did he assume the kid had stayed on a ship the whole time? Obviously the writers want you to believe that Laura didn't tell him something she should have.

I don't think we've seen the last of Baltar/human encounters . . . . how lonely does he get? And what will he do to assuage that loneliness? Or does he find out he's a Cylon (probably not. Too convenient).

Interesting that both the Cylons and humans are wondering what "force" or unlikely set of circumstances has brought them to an obscure place just as a sun is going to nova . . . . . will removing the eye trigger that nova?

Timing: Did I hear a conversation saying the artifact was 4000 years old?

Cowperson

[mykalberta]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

He's also the same soldier who showed up drunk on duty, let his wife cloud his judgement, had an emotional meltdown on duty. And being a good resistance leader dosen't make you a good soldier at all, it might make you a good killer, but not a soldier.

And he's a pretty lousy human being as well.

True soldiers are killers, not managers. It isnt pretty but that simple fact is why we arent doing great in Afghanistan and why the US isnt doing great in Iraq - soldiers should have a singular purpose - to kill and when that is done they are brought home - that is why you never want a career soldier.

I agree Tye isnt a great human being - in fact he is a grade a a$$, but great soldiers are rarely great human beings outside of combat (they normally have the type of issues Tye has, alcohol/mental etc. Also what husband doesnt have his judgement clouded/influenced by a wife. I am waiting to see what type of character he turns into without his wife - notice how he is unflinching when Adama mentions the nuke launch - a man among men.

Its BSG - I have my opinion you have yours - and its one hel1 of a show.

MYK

[BlackEleven]

Originally Posted by Cowperson

That's a goddamned, bloody, fracking outstanding analysis Crunch!!! Well done!!

Seconded!

Originally Posted by Cowperson

I don't think we've seen the last of Baltar/human encounters . . . . how lonely does he get? And what will he do to assuage that loneliness? Or does he find out he's a Cylon (probably not. Too convenient).

I do agree he's probably not a Cylon, but there's clearly something going on with him (the projecting, the Six in his head, the Three that thinks he's part of her destiny).

I think he will have some revealation or ephiphany where he figures out what that is very shortly. Maybe his work on Caprica before the Cylon attack somehow created the technology that allowed the Cylons to create human models or maybe his father/grandfather was one of the original programmers of Cylon technology. I'm thinking something along those lines. In that he's not a Cylon himself, but had a indirect hand in their creation.

Originally Posted by Cowperson

Timing: Did I hear a conversation saying the artifact was 4000 years old?

Yes, I noticed that too. For quite a while I've been wondering when this story is supposed to be set. It would seem to be in the future since they have advanced technology we don't have on Earth, but that doesn't necessairly have to be so. People didn't get to Earth witout FTL drives, obviously a technology we don't have now, so it must have gotten lost or hidden somewhere along the way. If that's the case, then the story could be set in anytime. They could show up on Earth and some guy named Jesus could be walking around.

Also, has anyone else noticed how awesome the music is in BSG? I love the concept of the drum based music for the humans and the piano music for the cylons. You can even hear it in the intro music. It starts off with the piano music when it says 'there are lots of copies' and 'they have a plan' in reference to the cylons. And by the end when its showing the humans its a heavy drum beat with no piano. And in each episode the scenes involving the Cylons base ships always features piano music and the human scenes always feature drums.

Two very different sounds, yet both percussion instruments. Perhaps a subtle reference to the similarty and differences between humans and cylons? Either way, its just one more interesting aspect of a very cool show.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Cowperson

That's a goddamned, bloody, fracking outstanding analysis Crunch!!! Well done!!

Thanks, the whole Cylon's in the gods images makes sense to me since they were created by humans, they would logically build thier human concepts from the gods of thier creators. It also seemed likely based on the fact that the Human's have multiple gods, and its logical at that point, and based on the myths that we heard so far that they were the Greek or Roman gods. There is an interesting role reversal here that the human's who worship multiple gods are fleeing from a race that suppossedly worships one god, and Moses (Baltar) is leading them.

Originally Posted by Cowperson

A David Eick interview below. No spoilers in it. Season four shooting has finished. He talks about how long the show might go on.

http://ifmagazine.com/feature.asp?article=1810

Thank god for no spoilers.

Originally Posted by Cowperson

We know that Starbuck has a roving eye, but Anders is pretty much like a drug addict with her, and the rescue is a metaphor for saving her soul. I have no doubt that Ander's will become the Galactica's red shirt and die on his way to save her.

As I was watching Anders I was thinking it was a pretty ridiculous scenario . . . . but, as I said above, I know men and women like him in real life as do most of you as well. Ridiculous yes. Improbable, sadly no.

Ander's death has to represent rock bottom to Starbuck if he does indeed die. He seems like a good man, and almost pure in his passion for her. Hopefully it will lead to redemption for her, because if she gets angry about it, or ignores it, her character will truly be lost.

Originally Posted by Cowperson

Regarding Hera . . . . Adama was certainly involved in the decision to fake Hera's death. He might have known that Laura had the kid on the surface of new Caprica with its adoptive mother. Would he care what happened to the kid in the lazy days after finding that planet? Then Galactica lost communication with the surface for months . . . . the kid wouldn't have been logged as a returnee in a survey when people were brought back up. Did Adama simply assume the kid was dead at that point. Did he assume the kid had stayed on a ship the whole time? Obviously the writers want you to believe that Laura didn't tell him something she should have.

This whole thing is really confusing to me, because I remember him being involved in the decision to fake Hera's death. Did Roslin lie about her returning to the fleet? Whatever, Adama's reaction to me is confusing to me, since he had already knowingly screwed over Sharon and Helo, so his reaction to me is a bit hypocritical. Will Baltar smuggle the baby out of thier in a chance to rejoin the human race?

Originally Posted by Cowperson

I don't think we've seen the last of Baltar/human encounters . . . . how lonely does he get? And what will he do to assuage that loneliness? Or does he find out he's a Cylon (probably not. Too convenient).

Baltar has always been slippery and dishonest in dealing with the human's, but been fairly honest when he dealt with the Cylon's (fear of a sudden brain hemmorage could do that). Is that relationship about to change so Baltar can refind his humanity? Is he a moses figure to the Cylon's or a judas that they don't know about.

Originally Posted by Cowperson

Interesting that both the Cylons and humans are wondering what "force" or unlikely set of circumstances has brought them to an obscure place just as a sun is going to nova . . . . . will removing the eye trigger that nova?

Thats why I thought when they talked about the nova, its the old indiana jones scenario, remove the treasure and the rock falls on you. But it also goes back to the current hair trigger scenario where Adama has the missiles pointed at the temple, and the Cylon's are testing his resolve. Of all the species the Cylon's are the last group that should believe in chance or coincidence based on the fact that they are at the end of the day machines, and everything in thier perception has to break down to math.

On an added note, maybe the supernova is a key hint to the location of earth, you push the button, the sun goes nova and creates a wormhole to earth, because frankly having them going from land mark to land mark with the Cylon's in pursuit will get tiring in a hurry.

Originally Posted by Cowperson

Timing: Did I hear a conversation saying the artifact was 4000 years old?

I heard that too, makes a strong argument for the greek gods theory if the Earth in the Galactica Universe is in present day. You also have to ask yourself the question, that if the 13th colony is earth, and it in present day, why do they worship one god?

Just a thought