PlayStation 4 Thread

[Raekwon]

Personally I think Microsoft is going to bring out some abomination of a machine geared more towards social interaction and kinect. They will present us with the XBOX U.

[vektor]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

Many think that it's potentially Dragon's Dogma 2.

System seller for me if that's true.

As far as the console haters, don't buy one if you don't like it. I've got a gaming pc and a ps3, ps3 has the NHL games as well as games like Red Dead Redemption and SSX. I never got the "my system is superior to yours" mentality. It's all about personal preference, do you prefer the big console exlusives/sports games or the high end graphics and modding/graphical capabilities of a pc, go with which one you like. Neither is objectively superior because they both have pros and cons, I can't chill with my buddy and play NHL on my pc but I can't mod the crap out of Fallout 3 on my ps3. That is of course not counting the Wii and the next Xbox if it goes the way of kinect/facebook/twitter/media whatever, those systems are more about gimmicks and grandmas than quality of games. I think people rag on the consoles way too much, without the PS3 the gaming industry wouldn't be nearly as strong, the industry needs the diversity because it shows what works (seamless multiplayer e.g. Dark Souls, completely free mmo e.g. Guild Wars 2) and what doesn't (star was kinect games and pay to win games).

[3 Justin 3]

Well this thread sure sucks now. Thank you PC buttholes. The gift of being a d-bag just keeps on giving.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by vektor

System seller for me if that's true.

As far as the console haters, don't buy one if you don't like it. I've got a gaming pc and a ps3, ps3 has the NHL games as well as games like Red Dead Redemption and SSX. I never got the "my system is superior to yours" mentality. It's all about personal preference, do you prefer the big console exlusives/sports games or the high end graphics and modding/graphical capabilities of a pc, go with which one you like. Neither is objectively superior because they both have pros and cons, I can't chill with my buddy and play NHL on my pc but I can't mod the crap out of Fallout 3 on my ps3. That is of course not counting the Wii and the next Xbox if it goes the way of kinect/facebook/twitter/media whatever, those systems are more about gimmicks and grandmas than quality of games. I think people rag on the consoles way too much, without the PS3 the gaming industry wouldn't be nearly as strong, the industry needs the diversity because it shows what works (seamless multiplayer e.g. Dark Souls, completely free mmo e.g. Guild Wars 2) and what doesn't (star was kinect games and pay to win games).

At least you can send PMs being a dick to people on both!

Originally Posted by vektor

little bitch told on me, haha. You're such a tool

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Dude, the laid comment was purely tongue-in-cheek. But the cost part of it is kind of my whole point. I'm not a hardcore gamer by any means. Gaming for me is what I do when I get home from work and want to shut my brain off. Even at $429 or $529, if I can get a good, solid four years out of that then I consider it a good investment.

I don't play a lot of different games (mostly just sports titles), and I wouldn't really consider it a hobby. I suck at FPS, and get pretty bored with online multiplayer stuff (mostly because I suck at those too). I also go to school full-time and work full-time, so I tend to have very little free time on evenings and weekends. I just don't see the need to be investing big bucks into something that I don't consider to be a major aspect of my life.

To me, that's where consoles come in. I don't have a problem with the hardcore gamers residing in the PC realm. I just don't get why they feel the need to come in and crap on consoles, when consoles fill a completely different niche.

the thing is though, depending on how many games you buy in those 4-5 years you won't be saving any money over the average PC gamer. they spend more for hardware, but they can take advantage of Steam sales while console users are stuck paying full price for their games

plus, i'll always have a good desktop PC regardless of whether i game or not. i simply view it as spending the same amount that you do on a console to upgrade my PC to the point where it's a great gaming machine

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

At least you can send PMs being a dick to people on both!

You should see the ones he sent me!

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

You should see the ones he sent me!

I got some PMs from people whom he's sent hilarious PMs to. We should start a thread.

[vektor]

Muahahahaha,

seriously though, sorry if I ruined your day or anything. I had a serious illness and I was on antibiotics so... wooh...

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

the thing is though, depending on how many games you buy in those 4-5 years you won't be saving any money over the average PC gamer. they spend more for hardware, but they can take advantage of Steam sales while console users are stuck paying full price for their games

plus, i'll always have a good desktop PC regardless of whether i game or not. i simply view it as spending the same amount that you do on a console to upgrade my PC to the point where it's a great gaming machine

On average, I buy maybe 2-3 games/year. This year I splurged when Origin was having a sale and ended up buying 5, but I would say I spent less than $30 on the majority of those. And like I said, the majority of those are sports games, which have been abandoned by EA as far as the PC is concerned.

Anyways, I also don't need a powerful desktop for anything PC related. I have a laptop, and it's primary uses are browsing, word processing, storing photos, downloading, etc. I got my laptop for free, but I think it's valued at about $500-$600. I believe I got my PS3 for around $249. So even if you add all of those things together and say I bought 3 games/year at full price, it comes out to around $1600 over a 4-5 year period.

How much does a decent gaming PC run you these days (not trying to be a dick, genuinely curious), and how long do they last before they become obsolete or aren't able to keep up with the games that are released?

I honestly wish I had the coin for both, because I'm sure I would rather play most non-sports titles on a PC, but since I'm mostly a casual sports gamer, a PC just doesn't make sense for me.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by rubecube

How much does a decent gaming PC run you these days (not trying to be a dick, genuinely curious), and how long do they last before they become obsolete or aren't able to keep up with the games that are released?

Probably belongs in the PC gaming thread *wiggles eyebrows* but a "decent for 3 years" gaming rig from scratch is about 800 bucks for a desktop, and 950 for a laptop.

[HPLovecraft]

Also depends on what type of PC game you like playing. PC is the home of strategy gaming, and you can usually stretch your gaming PC out a decent deal longer than 3-years with those. Another great thing about the PC? It's back compatible! That ####ty PC of yours is great for playing some Baldur's Gate.

[CubicleGeek]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Probably belongs in the PC gaming thread *wiggles eyebrows* but a "decent for 3 years" gaming rig from scratch is about 800 bucks for a desktop, and 950 for a laptop.

I would probably say that initial setup is around $1500 (including all the necessary peripherals - monitor, input devices, speakers, and etc), but every 3 years or so you would spend $300-$800 depending on what you upgrade.

[HPLovecraft]

Originally Posted by CubicleGeek

I would probably say that initial setup is around $1500 (including all the necessary peripherals - monitor, input devices, speakers, and etc), but every 3 years or so you would spend $300-$800 depending on what you upgrade.

Maybe if you buy it straight from Futureshop. If you put in a little effort and research (which I think is part of the fun, but PC gamers are like that), you can definitely build a great gaming PC along with monitor, etc., for under 1 grand. I recently did just that.

[CubicleGeek]

Originally Posted by HPLovecraft

Maybe if you buy it straight from Futureshop. If you put in a little effort and research (which I think is part of the fun, but PC gamers are like that), you can definitely build a great gaming PC along with monitor, etc., for under 1 grand. I recently did just that.

Well, I guess what is considered a great gaming PC is subject to interpretation.

Personally, I would be very hard pressed to build anything that I would consider good for under 1K (not including peripherals). For example, I would never recommend any of my friends build a gaming PC today that does not contain an SSD and at least a 670GTX or an HD7950 - those two components alone will run you $400-$500 depending on the size of the drive. Unless you pirate your OS's, Windows will cost you $100. So you're already talking $500-$600 and you haven't even considered processor/mb/ram/psu/case.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by CubicleGeek

Well, I guess what is considered a great gaming PC is subject to interpretation.

Personally, I would be very hard pressed to build anything that I would consider good for under 1K (not including peripherals). For example, I would never recommend any of my friends build a gaming PC today that does not contain an SSD and at least a 670GTX or an HD7950 - those two components alone will run you $400-$500 depending on the size of the drive. Unless you pirate your OS's, Windows will cost you $100. So you're already talking $500-$600 and you haven't even considered processor/mb/ram/psu/case.

You don't need a 670 to get "decent" gaming. "Decent" means "average" or "passable", which is in line with a $200 660.

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by HPLovecraft

you can definitely build a great gaming PC along with monitor, etc., for under 1 grand. I recently did just that.

I gotta have the multiple 2560x1600 monitors and the associated video cards. Every year (or two?) I at least get a new set of video cards.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by chemgear

I gotta have the multiple 2560x1600 monitors and the associated video cards. Every year (or two?) I at least get a new set of video cards.

I need to get on this guys level.

This is the point where you go from "Gamer" to "Enthusiast".

"Gamers" buy $400-$500 video cards and a $200 1920x1080 monitor

"Enthusiasts" buy 3x$500 video cards and 2x$1000 2560x1500 monitors.

[chemgear]

^ To be fair, the monitors have lasted more years than the video cards. I haven't had to replace them yet. /knockonwood

[CubicleGeek]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

You don't need a 670 to get "decent" gaming. "Decent" means "average" or "passable", which is in line with a $200 660.

I'm responding to "great", not "decent". A 670 will be great today and decent in a few years. A 660 is "decent" to "good" today and likely not too decent in 3 years.

Again, it's highly subjective, perhaps 30fps at medium settings running 1920x1080 is a "great" experience for some. It's certainly not for me, so my interpretation will be different than yours or HP's.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by vektor

As far as the console haters, don't buy one if you don't like it. I've got a gaming pc and a ps3, ps3 has the NHL games as well as games like Red Dead Redemption and SSX. I never got the "my system is superior to yours" mentality. It's all about personal preference, do you prefer the big console exlusives/sports games or the high end graphics and modding/graphical capabilities of a pc, go with which one you like. Neither is objectively superior because they both have pros and cons.

Only when you consider software exclusives. In terms of hardware, PC is an objectively superior platform. Anything a console can do, a PC can do better - that includes plugging into a TV an a controller, if you like.

As far as the "don't buy one if you don't like it" argument goes, console stuff affects our lives even if we don't buy them, hence the interest in this thread from PC gamers.