Survivor 25: Philippines Pool and Discussion (September 19th premier)

[CaptainCrunch]

Stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid.

Lisa and Michael just threw away a million bucks. They might as well have tossed the money into a hobo barrel and lit it on fire.

They not only gave up an easy kill in the final three, but they gave up power by evening up the game 2 to 2

These people are mincing morons.

Morons I tells ya.

[d_phaneuf]

Ya I don't get it (well actually I do, they are kinda stupid)

I think Malcolm or Lisa win depending on who wins next immunity (and assuming F3)

bad decision by them

[Hockeyguy15]

Well unless Denise wins immunity I think she is going home, the vibe I got was that they all think she will win if she makes it to the final 3.

Final 3 will either be Lisa, Skupin, Malcom or Denise, Malcom, Skupin.

[GreenLantern]

I could totally see Denise winning final immunity, unless her condition worsens.. but it seems to have gotten better?


I honestly don't know what I would have done, Abi is horrible... but she is an easy win to play against. I am happy that they didn't take her though, maybe this will spark another heroes vs. villains. If Skupin went up against Lisa and Abi in the final that is probably his best shot, against Malcolm and Lisa he loses in a land slide.

I am not so sure that Denise will win right over Malcolm, he had gained the respect of Pete and Artis, and even though he did turn against them he can make the argument that it wasn't until he found out they were going to do it to him. He got a well played from Pete on his exit speech if I remember correctly... and after a week or more back at the elimination camp your temper can cool quite a bit.

I definitely like Malcolm's odds of pulling this off, and overall I am just happy that every person in the final four is deserving of a win and actually played the game. Great to see people buck the trend of taking losers for the easy win.

[CaptainCrunch]

The only way that this works out for Skupin is if he wins immunity,

If one of Denise or Malcolm wins immunity. Lisa and Skupin will vote for the other one and Malcolm and Denise will vote for Skupin who's a bigger final three challenge.

So we'll get into a fire building contest.

My gut tells me that no matter what happense there's a firewood challenge next week.

Lisa especially played this badly, she went against the right instinct.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid.

Lisa and Michael just threw away a million bucks. They might as well have tossed the money into a hobo barrel and lit it on fire.

They not only gave up an easy kill in the final three, but they gave up power by evening up the game 2 to 2

These people are mincing morons.

Morons I tells ya.

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

Ya I don't get it (well actually I do, they are kinda stupid)

I think Malcolm or Lisa win depending on who wins next immunity (and assuming F3)

bad decision by them

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

The only way that this works out for Skupin is if he wins immunity,

If one of Denise or Malcolm wins immunity. Lisa and Skupin will vote for the other one and Malcolm and Denise will vote for Skupin who's a bigger final three challenge.

So we'll get into a fire building contest.

My gut tells me that no matter what happense there's a firewood challenge next week.

Lisa especially played this badly, she went against the right instinct.

Lisa is so unlikeable.

Dumb and untrustworthy.

[Komskies]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

The only way that this works out for Skupin is if he wins immunity,

If one of Denise or Malcolm wins immunity. Lisa and Skupin will vote for the other one and Malcolm and Denise will vote for Skupin who's a bigger final three challenge.

So we'll get into a fire building contest.

My gut tells me that no matter what happense there's a firewood challenge next week.

Lisa especially played this badly, she went against the right instinct.

I personally don't think it'll get to a fire building challenge. The second Lisa starts to feel the heat, she'll pull her 18th flip-flop of the game and join up with Malcolm and Denise in a heartbeat. I can already see it.

Malcolm: "Hey Lisa... we were really think about Sku..."
Lisa: "I was thinking exactly the same thing. Let's get rid of him."

[Parallex]

I dunno, I kind of get the argument that you keep Denise around so that you can maximize your ability to get rid of Malcolm. Abi can't win a challange that she doesn't have an extra advantage for (hell she doesn't even put in max effort), Lisa tries hard but she's likewise not athletic, so if you get rid of Denise you're basically putting all your eggs in the Skupin basket... a man twice as old as former college football player and all around athlete Malcolm.

I mean as much as they've played up people saying that you can't beat Denise or Malcolm (which has a ring of truth to it) I think that of the two it's far easier to beat Denise at F3 then it is Malcolm (whose played easily and by far the best game).

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

So we'll get into a fire building contest.

My gut tells me that no matter what happense there's a firewood challenge next week.

I think Skupin ending up in a firewood challange is just too perfect a continuation of Skupin's storyline for the producers of the show to not try to influence things that way. Fire is either his redemption or revealed as his downfall.

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Lisa especially played this badly, she went against the right instinct.

Yeah, Lisa actually has pretty good instincts... Get Rid of Malcolm x2, Make F3 Deal with Penner (Penner's one mistake this whole game, if he'd taken the deal he'd have an excelent shot at winning the game), Hook up with the terrible trio and then drop them later. Unfortunately when Lisa doesn't throw herself a curveball fate does.

[Komskies]

Forgot to do this last week:

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Lisa is so unlikeable.

Dumb and untrustworthy.

Booo sir boo, I'd so wreck that chick and make her call me Jo.

[CaptainCrunch]

I'd like to say a sad farewell to Abi, probably one of the hottest survivors in the shows history, the only chick who could wear a skin tight pair of disgustingly dirty leggings and pull it off.

[surferguy]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I'd like to say a sad farewell to Abi, probably one of the hottest survivors in the shows history, the only chick who could wear a skin tight pair of disgustingly dirty leggings and pull it off.

Disagree - not on board with that

[red sky]

Originally Posted by surferguy

Disagree - not on board with that

I'd rather take a pounding from Denise than get with Abi the Gargoyle.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

If one of Denise or Malcolm wins immunity. Lisa and Skupin will vote for the other one and Malcolm and Denise will vote for Skupin who's a bigger final three challenge.

So we'll get into a fire building contest.

Malcolm has stated multiple times that he'd rather be in a Final 3 with Lisa and Skupin over Denise. These have been confessionals so it's not like he had a reason to lie. Of course given the nature of Survivor he's probably talked about the positives of sitting next to everyone during confessionals and they could have been including those to make it a more dramatic "twist" finale.

But it makes sense, he and Denise played a very similar game, if you have a reason to vote for Malcolm you probably have some reasons to vote for Denise. Why risk going into a fire challenge and even if you win risk splitting juror votes with Denise when you could take Lisa and Skupin and have them split the votes of whatever Tandang allegiance there might be? Might look like a bad guy voting out his partner Denise, but he's made a Final 3 with the others so voting out them looks just as, if not more, shady.

I feel like it's going to be a Malcolm win if he wins Immunity, a Denise win if he doesn't. Assuming a Final 3 finale, not sure if that's been confirmed.

Either way, hoping for a Denise or Malcolm win.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

How in the heck does Cheese still have 2 players left?

I agree with others that Lisa and Skupin screwed up in that last vote. If you have a chance this late in the game to vote out Denise and keep Abi, you do it.

[Cheese]

^^^good question! I may have 2 left but will likely place 2-3 or 3-4 LOL.

[GreenLantern]

Edit: Presidential address.

[Cheese]

Surprising who seemed to be the most bitter at tribal...l

[CaptainCrunch]

It was weird, we know that the agreement for Denise and Lisa and Skupin was for Malcolm. But why didn't Malcolm push for the split vote. If he and Denise would have voted Lisa we would have had the fire challenge between Lisa and Malcolm.

Denise won but she really ran on the coat tales of her alliance.

Good to see Lisa win the 100k, she looked especially yummy tonight at the reunion show.

As did Abi.

[Parallex]

Boo to the editers... they really need to put a bit more effort into hiding the winner. I thought the only more obvious winner was Boston Rob.

Anyhoo... can I call dibs on a spot on the S26 pool?