2017 Hurricane Season

[Huntingwhale]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Same thought I had...until I went through 2 of them about a month apart in 2004.

Never want to be near one again.

I was in the Philippines for the 2013 storm. Man was that crazy. Never again. Seeing the destruction afterwards was absolutely insane, as there was no escaping it.

[SeeGeeWhy]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

Seems like you're talking to me. What is this biophysical reality that you speak of? I've done long range carbon mitigation scenarios and the general consensus is that energy access is provided by a mix of renewable energy supported by thermal fuels. For example, India's renewable energy consumption increases by 600% and natural gas consumption by 300% from now to 2040.

Nobody who's seriously working on these issues disputes this.

But you ask, how is this possible to reduce GHG emissions while increasing NG consumption in India by 200 bcm? Because places like Europe and North America decrease their natural gas consumption by 500 bcm collectively.

Not directly. I was posing these as general questions that I believe would serve us all better to consider compared to the typical sorts of fruitless exchanges I am routinely witness to. Because you're experienced and educated in this arena, and you've got ideas on how to answer them, they resonated with you. Thanks for the response.

My response would be whether your modelling work and proposal cover electricity generation, transportation, building heat and power AND industrial process heat requirements or not.

What I mean by biophysical reality is looking very deeply at the energy return on investment we are earning with our systems, and choosing wisely. Hall and Klitgaard expand on Energy and the Wealth of Nations. I'm actually scheduled to interview Hall on this very subject within a few weeks... exciting for me!

[Bigtime]

Info starting to come out that Barbuda could be seeing destruction in the 90% range with lots of deaths.

[Tinordi]

Sickening news out of Barbuda.

As an aside, there are major forest fires across the western US and Canada. In the US there are 81 fires burning 1.5 million acres. Fires in Montana, Oregon, Washington St. Idaho, California, Colorado, Utah, Wyoming.

Here in Vancouver the city is drapped in smoke, the north shore mountains are not visible.

Here's a map of fires in the PNW

[KevanGuy]

This isn't the forest fire thread. Please start a thread on forest fires if you want to discuss them.

[mikephoen]

Gonna have to update the thread title again and add in Jose and Katia.

[oldschoolcalgary]

just heard that Irma is being called the most powerful atlantic hurricane ever recorded?!

wow... that's the last thing the US needs.

Hopefully everyone will take the evacuations seriously and leave if they are able too.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

just heard that Irma is being called the most powerful atlantic hurricane ever recorded?!

There's a bunch of different measures of "powerful". Most intense (lowest pressure) remains Wilma. Highest sustained wind remains Allen. Longest duration of sustained winds over 185 mph is a metric that was made up today, and Irma wins that.

[Flames89]

Crazy. 300 km/h wind speeds levelled Barbuda. Gusts up to 360 km/h
This must be like a pressure washer hitting your house.
https://twitter.com/angelo_jpeg/stat...59355155730432

[Fuzz]

This would be terrifying
https://twitter.com/JointCyclone/sta...95102339792896

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

This would be terrifying
https://twitter.com/JointCyclone/sta...95102339792896

Mind boggling...like a 3 hour long tornado.

[driveway]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

I was in the Philippines for the 2013 storm. Man was that crazy. Never again. Seeing the destruction afterwards was absolutely insane, as there was no escaping it.

Yeah, I've been through ... ten? A dozen? Since I arrived in Taiwan in 2011. I always expect at least one if not three or four days off a year due to typhoons. However, Taipei is probably the best place in the world to be if you want to experience a typhoon with relatively low risk.

The country itself is extremely well prepared for these storms: http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles...super-typhoons as we get 3-4 a year on average. Also, the mountain range that runs the length of the middle of the country is more-or-less the same height as the Alberta rockies, we've got something like 260 peaks over 3,000 meters and since the storms come in from the south and east and move to the north and west, Taipei in the northwestern corner of the island is pretty well protected.

There is still damage and there are often deaths and injuries, though they are usually in the mountains and frequently the result of landslides or mudslides. All that said, were I pretty much anywhere else in the world other than Taipei - in particular a low-lying, extremely flat location like Florida, I would GTFO if there was one of these storms bearing down. The amount of rain and the wind they deliver is just astronomical.

[bluejays]

Scheduled to work in the DR in a few weeks. Hopefully this craziness passes over without leveling the country.

[calumniate]

Man oh man, nature can be cruel

[missdpuck]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

That sounds dicey. I'd imagine given the size that they would get whatever they could flown on Friday, and not on Saturday. Just guesses though.

Spoiler!

I talked to a couple who have a flight to Dulles out of Ft Lauderdale for 6 am Saturday. They got the last two tickets.

I was surprised the airlines were planning flights.

We've been working 12-13 hours a day because people are calling in sick.

I still need to find gas somewhere.

Good thing I have impact Windows, but my neighbors are giving me the stink eye as I haven't moved my patio stuff in yet.


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[Cali Panthers Fan]

A quick update for those that care:

-We are at the hospital now
-Wife is in labour, but it's early
-We will probably have a baby by the end of the day

The only question is whether or not we would be released from the hospital before the storm hits. Not sure which I would rather at the moment.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Stay safe Cali! If it's a girl are you going to call her Irma?

[_Q_]

Wow Cali I can't even imagine going through this. Stay safe.

[Mazrim]

Originally Posted by missdpuck

We've been working 12-13 hours a day because people are calling in sick.

That's gotta be frustrating. How do you even answer that? "Oh weird, seems like everyone is getting sick right before the hurricane. What a coincidence!"

[calumniate]

Pretty good article here on Arstechnica:
https://arstechnica.com/science/2017...t-good-reason/