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Street Pharmacist · 06-03-2015, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

If Seabrook were available that would be a pipe dream for us and a player we should be all over.

Sadly, I think he fits into the earlier sentiment with there being other player's they'll surely look to offload first.

And there would be a metric #### ton of offers for him.

Edmonton needs him more than we do and have more assets to offer. Dallas would be desperate too

Roof-Daddy · 06-03-2015, 12:50 PM

Maybe the Flames can snag a decent D prospect by taking on the last two years of Bryan Bickell's contract. ($4,000,000 per)

One of our seconds for Bickell plus one of these guys maybe?

Michael Paliotta
Stephen Johns
Ville Pokka

All young RHD.

Street Pharmacist · 06-03-2015, 01:03 PM

Bickell makes $4M!??!?

memphusk · 06-03-2015, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Maybe the Flames can snag a decent D prospect by taking on the last two years of Bryan Bickell's contract. ($4,000,000 per)

One of our seconds for Bickell plus one of these guys maybe?

Michael Paliotta
Stephen Johns
Ville Pokka

All young RHD.

100%. Adds size, but the overpayment comes off when it needs too. Helps both teams. Would be a smart move in my eyes.

Roof-Daddy · 06-03-2015, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Bickell makes $4M!??!?

Haha yeap. 2nd year of a 4 year deal.

He got it after his stellar playoffs two seasons ago when the Hawks last won the Cup. (17 points in 23 games)

dammage79 · 06-03-2015, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Bickell makes $4M!??!?

Yeah, he had a Belesky kind of playoffs and got paid.

Burke Salad · 06-03-2015, 01:17 PM

Forget Sharp - I want Hossa. All that guy does is go to Stanley Cup finals!

Vinny01 · 06-03-2015, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Burke Salad

Forget Sharp - I want Hossa. All that guy does is go to Stanley Cup finals!

Awful contract and is 35 he has 7 years left on that deal with cap penalties for early retirement

Royle9 · 06-03-2015, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dammage79

Yeah, he had a Belesky kind of playoffs and got paid.

### - Case point why I don't want us chasing Belesky
Belesky will get more then 4mil to boot, can almost guarantee someone will overpay (Edmonton?)

Vinny01 · 06-03-2015, 02:37 PM

I would welcome Belesky at anything under $4M per and 5 years. He hits and has a decent scoring touch.

GioforPM · 06-03-2015, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

If Seabrook were available that would be a pipe dream for us and a player we should be all over.

Sadly, I think he fits into the earlier sentiment with there being other player's they'll surely look to offload first.

I don't think Saad is one of those guys though.

Robbob · 06-03-2015, 02:49 PM

I think they have even come out to say that Saad will be a priority.

northcrunk · 06-03-2015, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinny01

I would welcome Belesky at anything under $4M per and 5 years. He hits and has a decent scoring touch.

I would say the oilers would give him that and he will never play another playoff game again. But I don't think they have the cap space

codynw · 06-03-2015, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinny01

Awful contract and is 35 he has 7 years left on that deal with cap penalties for early retirement

I'm pretty sure even if he gets traded, it's Chicago that is stuck with the recapture penalties.

automaton 3 · 06-03-2015, 03:41 PM

Belesky was an opportunistic scorer in the playoffs and had a career regular season with 32 points. 24 points the year before that, and was not a big scorer in juniors (overage year pretty good but expected).

Someone is going to lose their minds, hand him a big contract and be filled with regret for the next 4 years. Sure hope it is not the Flames.

Vinny01 · 06-03-2015, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by codynw

I'm pretty sure even if he gets traded, it's Chicago that is stuck with the recapture penalties.

I thought both teams faces penalties of varying degrees with those contracts?

ForeverFlameFan · 06-03-2015, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinny01

I would welcome Belesky at anything under $4M per and 5 years. He hits and has a decent scoring touch.

I would pass on him. This was his first year where he actually went .5 PPG.

Weitz · 06-03-2015, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by northcrunk

I would say the oilers would give him that and he will never play another playoff game again. But I don't think they have the cap space

Oilers have a ton of cap space. But it would be very surprising for them to sign a UFA forward this year.

mikephoen · 06-03-2015, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinny01

I thought both teams faces penalties of varying degrees with those contracts?

It can, and it would in Hossa's case if he played 2 years or less for a team that traded for him now. However, it would be a tiny penalty if he played 2 years. If he played 3 or more, then no penalty at all for the team that trades for him.

Huge penalty for Chicago though, if he retires before the end of the contract.

mikephoen · 06-03-2015, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Weitz

Oilers have a ton of cap space. But it would be very surprising for them to sign a UFA forward this year.

I wouldn't say they have a ton. About $20M, and they need a starting goalie, at least 3 defensemen and a couple forwards. With the going rate of decent defensemen always on the rise, they are going to be tight to the cap by puck drop in October.