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Old 08-15-2021, 11:26 AM   #2761
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So what do you do? Salt the earth and bring the farmers here to grow marijuana?
No, you have to educate them and then give them a livelihood and product that has more value than the crop they have been growing for generations. How do you change the fisheries on the east coast? Same thing. Education and reshaping of the economics of the region. It takes time and it takes money. The US invested both in Afghanistan and produced nothing but $5 trillion in debt.
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Old 08-15-2021, 11:51 AM   #2762
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I don't know, maybe I am naive, but I feel that it is possible to make an observation about politics in Japan without that making the observer guilty of white supremacy.

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If there's any wonder why people are so divided these days, it's this knee-jerk bad-faith discussion bulls--t where you assume the worst possible interpretation of what someone says and run with it.
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If there's any wonder why people are so divided these days, it's this knee-jerk bad-faith discussion bulls--t where you assume the worst possible interpretation of what someone says and run with it.
Says the guy siding with the racist.

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I don't know, maybe I am naive, but I feel that it is possible to make an observation about politics in Japan without that making the observer guilty of white supremacy.
There are two types of people involved in the discussion: people who are honestly pursuing good faith dialogue, and people who are effectively religious zealots who may as well be telling you about the eternal hellfire your post has condemned you to. The latter type of person should be put on ignore and never quoted so that they have no bearing on any topic.

... I mean, I think they should just be banned if they can't restrain themselves from wildly accusing other posters of being white supremacists or advancing white supremacy, because I can't think of anything more insulting or obnoxious and we certainly ban people for less around here, but I apparently am not winning that battle. So the ignore feature it is.
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I did not know this. That's extremely enlightening. Thanks for that information.
Nippon Kaigi own a hotel chain, APA, which stocks their rooms of a book that calls the Japanese massacres of the Chinese in Nanking essentially fake news. My cousin stayed in one of their rooms and flipped through it, saying the content is wild. He sent the hotel an email and cancelled his booking after checking in.

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In common with others over the years — including prime ministerial visits to the controversial Yasukuni war shrine — the furore surrounding the APA hotel chain has escalated quickly and toxically. Last week, the company was forced to explain why it was furnishing its rooms with a book, penned under a pseudonym by the founder, that argues the 1937 massacre of Chinese soldiers and civilians was “a fabrication”.
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If there's any wonder why people are so divided these days, it's this knee-jerk bad-faith discussion bulls--t where you assume the worst possible interpretation of what someone says and run with it.
The funny/sad part of this is if a poster from Japan hadnt chimed in to support my assertion I'd still be seen as a racist by a bunch of posters that haven't a clue about Japan at all and, ironically, see my statement as racist because in their minds the idea that a race, nation or people would not aspire to a white western lifestyle and political system must mean that race is defective and inferior, which is in itself incredibly racist, at no point did I say the Japanese couldn't be democratic, I clearly stated they made a choice to ignore the democracy we attempted to force on them.
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Ok, so I dont want to be the one that kills this thread, and it is hard to believe that at least Rube isnt itching to slag Biden off here so....

I don't actually care some you guys called me or my posts racist, its online and I dont get, what do the kids call it these days? butthurt (which seems kind of potentially homophobic but what ever) over anything on line.

If you think in retrospect that you were wrong about my posts then no sweat, you could just own it and move on but its not a big deal either way, if you think you were right carry on as well.
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Ok, so I dont want to be the one that kills this thread, and it is hard to believe that at least Rube isnt itching to slag Biden off here so....
For Afghanistan? I think Biden actually deserves praise for making the right call even though it was a political poison pill.

That said...

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I don't actually care some you guys called me or my posts racist, its online and I dont get, what do the kids call it these days? butthurt (which seems kind of potentially homophobic but what ever) over anything on line.

If you think in retrospect that you were wrong about my posts then no sweat, you could just own it and move on but its not a big deal either way, if you think you were right carry on as well.
This seems like a non-sequitur.
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For Afghanistan? I think Biden actually deserves praise for making the right call even though it was a political poison pill.

That said...



This seems like a non-sequitur.
no not really, to sum up I'm not upset and you guys can cope with the last few interactions in whichever way you wish, seems entirely sequitur'ish to me
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surprised not to see this yet- Trump has lost control of the beast, as they boo him for promoting the vaccine.
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And you'll never guess who just got awarded ambassador to Japan.

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And you'll never guess who just got awarded ambassador to Japan.

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The irony being that Japan has publicly funded healthcare
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The US should rank a lot higher than it does on the corruption scale.

What government and former government officials do (under the guise of “lobbying”) is really getting to be quite shameful shameful.
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The US should rank a lot higher than it does on the corruption scale.

What government and former government officials do (under the guise of “lobbying”) is really getting to be quite shameful shameful.
What's the O/U on the number of MSNBC/CNN segments that would have been dedicated to something like this had Trump done it? We would have had at least 1-2 pages of posts in this thread on the topic.
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What's the O/U on the number of MSNBC/CNN segments that would have been dedicated to something like this had Trump done it? We would have had at least 1-2 pages of posts in this thread on the topic.
Uh, no we wouldn't. In Trump terms this is barely a scandal. He would have done three more outrageous things the same day and completely buried something like this.
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Uh, no we wouldn't. In Trump terms this is barely a scandal. He would have done three more outrageous things the same day and completely buried something like this.
Its tradition in the US where you give cushy ambassador positions to supporters/donors. You'd be having 'scandals' every time someone got a position.
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Ambassador to Japan? Cripes, Betsy friggin Devos was in charge of Education under Trump, and not because she was the best candidate.
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Ambassador to Japan? Cripes, Betsy friggin Devos was in charge of Education under Trump, and not because she was the best candidate.
I mean I was told by Democrats that corruption and cronyism was specific to the Trump admin, but I guess as long as the corruption isn't as bad as Trump's, we're cool.
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