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Old 07-19-2023, 09:38 AM   #2741
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Well drugs are cut and dry, you either pass or fail tests.
Allegations and court cases are messy.
Yeah, I was just trying to point out that the ATP takes drug tests/results way more seriously than domestic abuse allegations.
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Old 07-19-2023, 09:46 AM   #2742
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Dominic Thiem got a win today!
Couldn't follow up that win however...

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Old 07-19-2023, 11:23 AM   #2743
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Speaking of great American players, I really want a pair of these

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hahah i had a pair in yellow. they ruled.

Anyone catch the Toth - Zhang controversy? Toth lookin like a real pos...
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Anyone catch the Toth - Zhang controversy? Toth lookin like a real pos...
Yeah, I was looking at that story yesterday. In my opinion, it escalated so quickly because the umpire didn't take control of the situation (she seemed very reluctant to check the mark). At times, I don't know why players even call the supervisor because they never overrule the umpire.

Then, Toth going over to wipe out the mark was really bad form. I've been reading that Zhang has been going through quite a bit lately and decided it wasn't worth continuing the match. She still had the composure to shake the umpire's hand and then her opponent's hand who immediately raised both arms in victory. I mean, who does that?

Just a terrible situation all around.
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1. The umpire did check the mark immediately and still ruled it out. Zhang kept going on and on and wanted to keep the mark there to call the supervisor. Toth wiped the mark two points later to put a stop to it. So this part is on Zhang.

2. Toth clearly knew that the ball was in. She would have earned a lot of respect by telling the umpire that and surrendering the point. To be honest, many players would just stay silent in that situation, especially during the 5-all game. So she eventually destroyed the evidence. so this part is on Toth.

3. The umpire is the one that needs to be investigated. I can’t possibly imagine how she could have called that ball in after checking the mark. Clearly, this is the case of either corruption or incompetence, no other option here. Either way, WTA needs to intervene. All the abuse Toth gets only distracts focus from the real issue which is the umpire.
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I missed that part about the umpire checking the mark, I only saw some video clips and it looked to me that she remained in the chair. The general consensus from what I read is that the ball was definitely in, though.
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Old 07-19-2023, 01:41 PM   #2747
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Of course, some players are willing to give up points or encourage their opponent to challenge displaying great sportsmanship. Two examples from Felix:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1495097257137520640

And this one on match point versus Andy Murray...

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i missed that part about the umpire checking the mark, i only saw some video clips and it looked to me that she remained in the chair. The general consensus from what i read is that the ball was definitely in, though.
This was the exchange, well before Toth wiped out the mark two points later.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1681376932351311890
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Old 07-19-2023, 03:29 PM   #2750
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So, a follow-up on the Zhang - Toth incident...The tournament issued the following and it's pretty zany:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1681775147865235458

The WTA has replied and suffice it to say are not pleased:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1681774449668902912
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It was ok until the last sentence.

Although the video has been manipulated. It even confused dash_pinched!
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It was ok until the last sentence.

Although the video has been manipulated. It even confused dash_pinched!
And that doesn't take much at all
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The apocalypse is truly upon us...

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The apocalypse is truly upon us...

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We’ve been promised for centuries Jesus would return,

But what we didn’t know is they meant a pickleball serve.
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Looks like Shapo is off the market...

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Andrey Rublev defeats Zverev 6-2 6-3. Great way to start the weekend.
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All the mothers are coming back on tour - We need to get Ash Barty back as well.
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Zverev losing AND it's Friday...Take it away, Gael.

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