Looking at that other Dell monitor, it has it as gsync compatible? Is that a death sentence versus fully gsync? Are things good as long as you get a good enough baseline fps?
It's not Nvidia certified, and AMD Freesync is VRR but software side only. GSync has it's own dedicated processing chip that delivers a much smoother VRR experience, with a wider gamut of refresh rate variance stabilisation.
I've used (and own) a number of GSync, Freesync and Freesync Prem Pro displays and to me, there's a notable difference.
It would feel like a (admittedly partial) step down, while the other features (QD-OLED, 21:9 1440, curved, 1000nits, HDR) are all steps up from my current primary monitor.
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That's interesting, I was just watching Linus's update on the refresh of the Alienware OLED display and he noted they'd removed the Gsync module, and that in his view that was a non issue as "even Nvidia doesn't seem to know what it does".
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That's interesting, I was just watching Linus's update on the refresh of the Alienware OLED display and he noted they'd removed the Gsync module, and that in his view that was a non issue as "even Nvidia doesn't seem to know what it does".
Honestly, the last couple years there has been a growing separation in the quality of technical reporting among YT PC personalities, and Linus is fine for like, weird stuff and generalized editorial reviews etc. but I've learned to stop trusting him and instead go to Steve or Paul (or even Jay sometimes) for the actual deep dive on the gear itself.
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By skipping Nvidia certification or using the G-Sync module, Alienware has a $200 cheaper QD-OLED monitor with largely the same performance expectations.
What exactly does the Gsync module do? Because it kind of seems like Nvidia charging to have its stamp on your display for no reason.
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Honestly, the last couple years there has been a growing separation in the quality of technical reporting among YT PC personalities, and Linus is fine for like, weird stuff and generalized editorial reviews etc. but I've learned to stop trusting him and instead go to Steve or Paul (or even Jay sometimes) for the actual deep dive on the gear itself.
Love Steve & GN. Don't watch LTT anymore. Who are Paul & Jay?
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To be fair, LTT focuses on all kinds of tech so it's not surprising they're more entertaining than informative. Steve and Jay are focused on PC building so they're the go-to channels for the best information. Steve has almost too much information.
When something is in Linus' wheelhouse he can post some of the best videos available. His initial first-look at the Steamdeck hardware was the best out there, and all the videos he's posted of his home tech renos have been great
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Yeah his home renos have been really interesting. And I love his big server stuff, it's always fun to watch him drop hardware that costs more than a car.
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Did my BIOS update and hardware swap this weekend, everything went off without a hitch. Pretty pumped to power on for the first time and everything is copasetic.
I first used my old 1080p monitor, just to make sure everything was fine and then tried out a few games. FPS was way above the monitor refresh rate of 165hz. I picked up a gigabyte m32uc 4k monitor for the AM5 build I'm doing, and tried it out. What a difference, adjusted to 4k and ultra settings and for example RDR2 sits around 80fps and looks unreal. Can't imagine going back now. Havnt fiddled with DLSS yet.
Looking at a gigabyte m28u monitor now and thinking about setting it up as a second monitor in portrait. Feel like the AM5 build can wait a little longer now till gen 5 storage comes out and availability of gpus settles down a bit (hopefully).
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While GSync (Ultimate) has some notable video processing advantages over FPP (out of the box SDR and HDR gamut support, overdrive capability and optimized latencies), and a lot of the comparison stuff is subjective (ie is the HDR actually "better"), the biggest advantage of having the dedicated chip is at high resolutions on more demanding games. The "floor" so to speak for FPP is 48fps, while on GSync it's 30fps. Gsync Ultimate also has a sub-30 fps render doubling feature that supposedly smooths things out even more.
The biggest issue for me is that the DWF does not (yet, if ever) have GSync Compatibility certification, which has been problematic a couple times for me in the past. Using NVIDIA cards on Freesync monitors that are not Certified I've had weird frame skipping and random blackframe issues.
All in all, you can definitely have a great experience with Freesync (esp Premium Pro), but for my money I have yet to regret any GSync purchases, while I can't entirely say the same for Freesync. This could be entirely a hardware thing however (as the GSync models generally are more premium-grade), and the DW & DWF being so close together in actual spec (panel, firmware, etc.) means that could just entirely be a wash. The biggest difference however is that 24hz at full resolution, which can be the difference maker in competitive online shooters (I am not a pro but Frames Win Games).
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Neither of those answers my question though, which was "what does the module actually do". Monitors can use Gsync with or without the module. The only difference I can figure out is that with the module the gsync vrr works at lower resolutions (i.e. below 50hz on a 165hz monitor) and my response to that is, who cares, I'm not running anything at 50fps on a 165hz monitor.
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Neither of those answers my question though, which was "what does the module actually do". Monitors can use Gsync with or without the module. The only difference I can figure out is that with the module the gsync vrr works at lower resolutions (i.e. below 50hz on a 165hz monitor) and my response to that is, who cares, I'm not running anything at 50fps on a 165hz monitor.
Frame dips occur my man, minimum FPS charts track this stuff relative to cards running at high resolutions in some games.
Also Variable Overdrive.
At the end of the day, Gsync passes what we love to term "the eye test" when side by side with Freesync in my personal experience. Just like IPS vs OLED vs QD-OLED, if you haven't experienced the latter, you probably don't care.
I mean if you're dipping that far I think you have bigger problems. Overdrive is a good point I guess but it isn't worth adding a 10% premium to the MSRP of a display. Talking about an eye test is talking about real world use cases and in those real world use cases, a monitor that is Gsync capable without the module is almost identical to one with as far as I can tell. Comparing to freesync is a red herring, for example the OLED I was taking about still supports Gsync if you have an Nvidia card, just doesn't have a green sticker on it.
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I mean if you're dipping that far I think you have bigger problems. Overdrive is a good point I guess but it isn't worth adding a 10% premium to the MSRP of a display. Talking about an eye test is talking about real world use cases and in those real world use cases, a monitor that is Gsync capable without the module is almost identical to one with as far as I can tell. Comparing to freesync is a red herring, for example the OLED I was taking about still supports Gsync if you have an Nvidia card, just doesn't have a green sticker on it.
But in this case the comparison is Freesync Prem Pro (No GSync Cert) vs GSync Ultimate.
Literally a direct comparison. Also the price difference is a 7.5% premium
