2014/2015 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[blender]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Without having any clue as to how an expansion draft would work in the salary cap era, how could they plan for it?

Otherwise I imagine you leave your worst contracts unprotected and hope the expansion teams take them off your hands.

It will be interesting to see how it plays out. Theoretically, a team could end up with some high-profile players on bad contracts.

Dion Phaneuf as the new captain of the Las Vegas High Rollers?

[Glo Boyz]

I would much much MUCH rather go after Sharp than Williams

Gaudreau-Monahan-Sharp
Bennett-Colborne-Hudler
Bouma-Backlund-Jones
Ferland-Stajan-Shore/Jooris/Bollig

looks really good to me

[Fire]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

In 2000, Wild and Columbus picked 3 & 4 respectively.
In 1999, Thrashers had #2 but traded up to #1
In 1998, Nashville had #2

So yes they do get high picks, but they don't get the top pick.

The NHL doesn't appear to hate their expansion teams unlike the the NBA when they expanded into Canada. Those teams got screwed. They weren't even allowed the #1 overall pick after their first (and maybe second) season in the league.

[Dajazz]

Not worried about adding a player like Williams on a short term contract. Injuries will happen, we need depth. There are a lot of fringe players in Granlund, Byron, Jooris and some guys in the AHL who can play in the NHL, but its not like we'd free fall in the standings without them.

Also, perhaps a decent package of some prospects with the abundance of 2nd rounders could be packaged for a #3 Dman. No doubt Russel and Wideman did a great job last year, but we lack depth and I am not confident in them as a true 2nd pairing going forward. They get hemmed in their own zone too often and have trouble handling physical forwards.Yea, I'll get killed for saying that, but whatever

[heep223]

Originally Posted by Glo Boyz

I would much much MUCH rather go after Sharp than Williams

Gaudreau-Monahan-Sharp
Bennett-Colborne-Hudler
Bouma-Backlund-Jones
Ferland-Stajan-Shore/Jooris/Bollig

looks really good to me

We don't need to add Sharp to this team. It creates awkward shuffling around of positions and could limit our young players development.

We're not trying to win the cup next season, the following season Sharp will be a 34 year old UFA that there is 0 chance we re-sign, and we have a GM / President who have said a number of times that they don't like the UFA market and they're going to build the team from within.

It's not going to happen and that's a good thing.

[Toonage]

The fewer vets added to the team the better. I'd rather not follow the Avalanche's example of following up a surprise season by getting older & slower.

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by Toonage

The fewer vets added to the team the better. I'd rather not follow the Avalanche's example of following up a surprise season by getting older & slower.

Agreed. I'd rather rummage through the clearance bin and see what we can find. That, or we trade prospects with other teams. Age wouldn't be a huge factor if we can bury them with very little problems.

Schelmko and Russell were good finds over the last bit (Yes, I know Russell was traded for a draft pick, but technically waiver fodder). Knight for Shore was a good one too. I'd rather do that while the other teams are fighting over FAs. I wouldn't be opposed to a reclamation projects either if the price is low enough.

The Setoguchi and Murray experiments were interesting as well even if it didnt' work.

Unless we get a completely perfect fit in price, length, positional need etc. I would prefer we don't chase expensive high end FAs.

[Mister Yamoto]

Originally Posted by heep223

We don't need to add Sharp to this team. It creates awkward shuffling around of positions and could limit our young players development.

We're not trying to win the cup next season, the following season Sharp will be a 34 year old UFA that there is 0 chance we re-sign, and we have a GM / President who have said a number of times that they don't like the UFA market and they're going to build the team from within.

It's not going to happen and that's a good thing.

I get your point but the Flames dam well better be trying to win the cup next season.

What if they had started this season with "we're not trying to make the playoffs this season".

[DJones]

Originally Posted by Glo Boyz

I would much much MUCH rather go after Sharp than Williams

Gaudreau-Monahan-Sharp
Bennett-Colborne-Hudler
Bouma-Backlund-Jones
Ferland-Stajan-Shore/Jooris/Bollig

looks really good to me

I don't like how Shore and Jooris will be forced to sit, not to mention anyone coming up.

Gaudreau- Monahan- Hudler
Bennett- Backlund- Jooris
Ferland- Stajan- Jones
Bouma- Colbourne- Shore

I would be extremely happy with that. Could run four lines even.

The RWs could be swapped with whoever works best. Or Jooris and Colbourne could be swapped

No need for any veterans when we don't even know exactly what our own players can do.

[DJones]

Klimchuk, Poirier, Wolf, Granlund, Arnold, Agnostino

You gotta think at least a few of them push to make the team as well.

[Icon]

If you want to offer up options to the Blackhawks to help them out cap wise, conversations should be aimed at guys like Shaw, Saad, Kruger. Obviously doesn't help them as much cap wise but they're all going to get raises so it does help a little.

The Flames shouldn't be interested in taking on older players unless it's packaged with something else.

[Toonage]

I think the biggest challenge (personnel wise) for the Flames this off season is finding a taker for Raymond and Jones.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Toonage

I think the biggest challenge (personnel wise) for the Flames this off season is finding a taker for Raymond and Jones.

Raymond, yes. 50% Raymond would probably work somewhere, we can afford to take on 1.5 for the next 2 years.

As for Jones, I think we will keep him and have him play out the '15/'16 season.

[H2SO4(aq)]

Originally Posted by heep223

We don't need to add Sharp to this team. It creates awkward shuffling around of positions and could limit our young players development.

We're not trying to win the cup next season, the following season Sharp will be a 34 year old UFA that there is 0 chance we re-sign, and we have a GM / President who have said a number of times that they don't like the UFA market and they're going to build the team from within.

It's not going to happen and that's a good thing.

I disagree. We may not be in "win now" mode, but I think the Flames are absolutely trying to win the cup next season. The players and coaches worked so damn hard this year to get to the second round, Treliving needs to reward that effort by making moves to improve the team. Not saying he needs to jeopardize the future completely by doing it. But, adding a sniper like sharp who is generally speaking a 25-35 goals scorer, would bolster the lineup.

Also, he would be a Flame for 2 years, at which time if a guy like Poirier or someone is ready to take his place, then we can dish him at the deadline or let him walk. Don't really see how there is 0 chance we resign him, if he steps up into a leadership role and is willing to agree to term/$ that suites the direction the team is going we could absolutely resign him. Also, your point about avoiding the UFA market is moot because sharp is under contract for 2 years, so it has nothing to do with being a ufa, and we can of course just let him walk in 2 years if we can't negotiate a good contract prior to his expiring.

[Vinny01]

Jones does not need to be moved. He has 1 year left and would be effective even in a 4th line role. He is also movable of the Flames eat salary. Personally I would welcome him to move along because I want the flames to upgrade his current position.

Raymond will be much more difficult to move. He had a worse season and 2 years left on his deal. Hopefully GM's really want guys with speed and he will be tradeable

[Galakanokis]

I think the Flames are in a really nice position moving forward. Last year they showed they can play and hopefully the core players build on that. They also showed they are willing to give call ups a chance if it is deserved. There is good talent on the AHL team and keeping them hungry and pushing is key. I don't see us signing a forward unless we package a couple of roster/AHL players for another piece.

Like a lot of others I think the Flames should focus on D. I really wanted the Flames to be on Boychuk and I would have gladly paid the price the Isle did to acquire him. Not sure if there is a similar player out there this year but that's who I would be looking for.

It was such a great season I would love to see the Flames have a great off season as well.

[GioforPM]

I like Jones' role on the team. He has some skill and good size. I like his shot. He seems to be a locker room leader and is chosen by the team a lot to deal with media. He, like Stajan, is able to play up and down the lineup without complaint and without a lot of concern.

Bennett/Colborne/Jones has some crash and bang offensive potential. Or Bouma instead of Bennett if you prefer. Or Bouma/Bennett/Jones.

[Galakanokis]

Jones was great down the stretch and in the playoffs. No way I want to see him moved right now. He's exactly what this team needs.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by Icon

If you want to offer up options to the Blackhawks to help them out cap wise, conversations should be aimed at guys like Shaw, Saad, Kruger. Obviously doesn't help them as much cap wise but they're all going to get raises so it does help a little.

The Flames shouldn't be interested in taking on older players unless it's packaged with something else.

Sure but the Hawks aren't going to be interested in trading those guys when they have older, more expensive guys they can offload.
It has to fit for both teams. Why would the Hawks even think about trading Saad?
They will move out Sharp, Seabrook, etc before that.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

They will move out Sharp, Seabrook, etc before that.

If Seabrook were available that would be a pipe dream for us and a player we should be all over.

Sadly, I think he fits into the earlier sentiment with there being other player's they'll surely look to offload first.